Thanks for the input.... but I broke down and smoked the Super Belicoso late last nignt. It was a good smoke, even burn, great draw, lots of smoke with a good peppery taste... but far from worth the money. The Padron Anniversary is still by far the best smoke I've had to date, worth every penny of the price. I tried one stick at 25 bucks, one at 12 and one at 10. The lower priced sticks were the smaller ones. I've tried ALL the Ashton's, VSG, Vintage and the regular line, all the CAO's, all the Perdomo's most of the Fuente line....ect.ect. The new Bolivar 654 Fuerte is a GREAT smoke,(Hint, Hint Keith) , very close to the Ashton VSG, but at 1/3 the price. As you can tell I have access to a great smoke shop, the only problem was I was going broke sampling all the cigars in her walk in humidor.