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Okay To Judge His Huntin' Buddy?
Cavallo Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 01-05-2004
Posts: 2,796
just read this in the editoral section of my local paper (www.wilmingtonstar.com) and thought i'd toss it out here. interested in others' thoughts in this:

Who are you to question him?

Even for a federal judge, Antonin Scalia's arrogance is breathtaking. Equally breathtaking is the refusal of other justices of the U.S. Supreme Court to ask him to step away from a case that involves a close acquaintance from whom he recently accepted extravagant favors.

Justice Scalia, as everyone must know by now, went duck hunting with Vice President ****** Cheney. They flew to Louisiana on a government Gulfstream and spent several days as guests of – you guessed it – one of Mr. Cheney's buddies in the oil industry.

They did all this just three weeks after the Supreme Court agreed to rule on whether Mr. Cheney must release information about his meetings with oil-industry types who advised him how to write laws affecting the oil industry.

An ethical judge wouldn't have gone on the trip in the first place. And an ethical judge certainly wouldn't go on the trip and then insist on participating in the decision.

Antonin Scalia did both.

Even after his cozy getaway with a high-profile defendant hit the newspapers, Justice Scalia refused to step down – "recuse" himself, as lawyers say.

Asked about his position at a public appearance Tuesday, he argued that because his hunting buddy isn't being sued as a person, but as vice president, it will be perfectly fine to rule on the case. "That's all I'm going to say for now. Quack, quack," he explained.

Professors of legal ethics, as well as other critics, argue that for Justice Scalia to take part in this case would, at best, present the appearance of wrongdoing. After all, the court's decision not only will settle an important legal question – must vice presidents to reveal such information? – but also could affect the personal and political future of Mr. Cheney.

But Chief Justice William Rehnquist, another conservative Republican, says it'll be just dandy for Justice Scalia to help decide the fate of his hunting buddy. Whether they agree with that or not, other justices are keeping mum.

The law says federal judges must recuse themselves if they have a conflict of interest or if their "impartiality might reasonably be questioned."

Pressed about his intentions by the Los Angeles Times, Justice Scalia wrote, "I do not think my impartiality could reasonably be questioned."

In other words, if you question his impartiality, you're unreasonable.

After all, he is a federal judge.
Homebrew Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 02-11-2003
Posts: 11,885
He may be a judge,
But Scalias' refusal to recuse himself, will lead many more people to question whether our system works. If Scalia doesn't recuse himself, he ruins the credability of the Supreme court. Let the case stand on it's merits, without any apperance of bias. Since there is a clear conflict of interest, why give the Libs. more ammunition.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
CWFoster Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 12-12-2003
Posts: 5,414
What Homebrew said!

Plus, I think our judicial system has already failed. Look at the Brucilia murder. That judge has let several other lower profile cases go that led to further victimizations by the perpetrators. The whole gay marriage issue in Ma. was forced upon the State Legislature because the Courts decided to rule that the marriages must be allowed, and the only recourse was to make a state constitutional amendment that would render the courts ruling unconstitutional. (Sorry Cav, but the issue here is Judges trying to write law from the bench!) In Texas, they've been releasing prisoners from the corrections department because Judge William Wayne Justice ruled that the overcrowding was "cruel and inhumane punishment". What about the cruel and inhumane treatment of the victims of crime? Justice Justice capped the prison population at 95% of capacity, 5% UNDER DESIGNED CAPACITY! The lowlife who sued the prison system ended up in prison in Illinois, so I guess he really tried to rehabilitate himself! Somehow, someway, we need to scrap the system and start all over!
Cavallo Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 01-05-2004
Posts: 2,796
hey, no problem, cwf. i understand what you're saying. it's refreshing, actually, when someone "on the right" acknowledges that "advocate judges" exist on both sides of the political fence.

i hear you about starting over, too. thing i wonder is whether it would be any better if we did start over. when you have human beings running the works, all kinds of human-ness gets it messy. sometimes i think we've got it pretty damned good; other times i just want to find an island of my own upon which to live out the rest of my days. :P

*thinks* like... cuba! lol (j/k)
Charlie Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
Posts: 39,751
What Homebrew and CWFoster said!

Charlie
fudge Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 12-04-2003
Posts: 444
How is justice going to be 'seen to be done' in this case if he doesn't recuse himself?
Homebrew Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 02-11-2003
Posts: 11,885
Hmmmm,
I'm just wondering, if a supreme court justice, can be brought up, on obstruction of justice charges. LOL
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
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