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SERIAL LIAR BUSH FINALLY GETS CAUGHT
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"Many of these politicians have put exclamation marks where we put question marks." -- Former Chief UN Weapons Inspector Hans Blix.

DETROIT -- That astute remark came in an interview in which Dr. Blix also offered his belief that President Bush's re-election campaign would contort and distort his reports on Saddam Hussein's arsenal of weapons to justify the brutal and unnecessary war in Iraq. Asked if the Bush crowd would attempt to alter the meaning of his findings, Dr. Blix said flat-out, "I'm sure they will."

People in the Bush administration belittled and vilified Blix and his work in Iraq. Time has shown the value of his efforts, and his assessments of Iraq's capabilities were honest and forthright and far more accurate than anything that the Bush administration claimed with dramatic exclamation marks.

The simplicity of Blix's political punctuation insight is intriguing and most instructive when applied to just about anything that comes out of the Bush administration. Whatever the president and his minions declare with a great exclamation mark, just apply a question mark and you'll be much closer to the truth.

Last May, Bush told Polish reporters, "We found the weapons of mass destruction!"

Really?

Those phantom weapons, of course, were the primary justification for the war, and each day more Americans and Iraqis die because of the bogus claims. His cockiness went even farther when he assured the Polish journalists that "we'll find more weapons as time goes on!"

When?

The evidence Bush pointed to at the time was "mobile labs to build biological weapons."

He dismissed critics who questioned his assertions and said, "For those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong. We have found them!"

Where are they?

Eight months after George W. made those bold claims, the world now knows they were simply not true. The evidence Bush was so certain about turned out to be trailers used to store helium for weather balloons.

The ploy now is to blame intelligence agencies and lying Iraqi defectors for the bad information, but let's never forget the words Bush and his cadre of warmongers used to convince the American people war was imperative for our national survival.

The words and arguments were loaded with exclamation marks, never a question mark. There was no doubt, only certainty, about Saddam Hussein's weapons arsenal and his evil intentions toward the United States. The threat from Iraq was "immediate," "significant," the "most dangerous threat of our time," "real and dangerous" and, yes, "imminent."

CIA Director George Tenet made a belated attempt to distance his agency from the notion that Iraq posed an "imminent threat." Remember the use of the word "imminent" came right out of the White House communications office and the flacks there used it several times. It was deliberate and calculated and had the desired effect of scaring the hell out of people. It was also a monumental lie!

On NBC's "Meet the Press," Bush told Tim Russert, "I got an honorable discharge and I did show up in Alabama!" Is that so? Bush also claimed his military records had been released and scrutinized during the 2000 campaign. Six days later, the White House released the records the president said had already been reviewed four years ago.

The more than 300 pages of records provide no more documentation about why Bush skipped months of required drills in Alabama and Houston between May 1972 and May 1973 and how he got away with it. Bush's superior in Alabama says he never saw him. The White House claims payroll records and evidence that he might have had his teeth cleaned once in Alabama prove he fulfilled his military duties.

But another pilot who was stationed at Dannery Air National Guard in Montgomery says he never saw Bush there and he was actually looking for him. Bob Mintz told the Memphis Flyer he was looking forward to meeting the young pilot from Texas who got a transfer to Alabama so he could work on the U.S. Senate race of one of his daddy's pals.

Mintz said he assumed that Bush "changed his mind and went somewhere else." The folksy Mintz, now a FedEx pilot, said the Texan would have stood out. "There's no way we wouldn't have noticed a strange rooster in the hen house, since we were looking for him," Mintz insists. He notes that pilots and their crews were tight. "If he did any flying at all, on whatever kind of craft, that would have involved a great number of supportive personnel. It takes a lot of people to get a plane into the air. But nobody I can think of remembers him."

There were only about 25 pilots at the Alabama base. Mintz said, "I talked to one of my buddies the other day and asked if he could remember Bush at drill at any time and he said, 'Naw, ol' George wasn't at the Pit, either.'"

The "Pit" was The Snake Pit, a favorite local watering hole for the squadron's pilots, who gathered there after hours. Imagine, if you possibly can, George W., in his admitted wild drinking days, skipping cocktails with the guys!

After years of searching, the Republicans finally produced some retired National Guard lieutenant colonel who claims he did see Bush on the base. The problem is, the old officer placed Bush in Alabama when he was assigned to a base in Texas. Nice try!

Far more significant than Bush's absence from drills is his failure to undergo a physical examination required for pilots. The records state that "failing to accomplish annual medical examination 1st Lt. George W. Bush is suspended from flying status."

Why has he never explained why he skipped his physical? Bush's records show he thought of "making flying a lifetime pursuit," but after the taxpayers spent $1 million training him to fly, he gets himself grounded. Explain that.

Two retired National Guard generals told the Boston Globe that "it was unheard of for a military aviator to miss an annual flight physical" and that regulations would have required an investigation of Bush's failure to show up for his physical.

"I did my duty. I was honorably discharged!" Bush proclaimed, as though that proves anything. Keep this in mind. Convicted D.C. sniper and serial killer John Muhammad served in the Louisiana National Guard from 1978 to 1985. He was twice court-martialed, once for striking an officer, another time for stealing. He was AWOL and spent time in the jail. Muhammad left the National Guard with an honorable discharge.

George W. brought this on himself with that shameless (and expensive for the taxpayers) aircraft landing stunt. He drew attention to his military record and deserves all the heat he's now feeling. It is refreshing to see many in the big, corporate media who were literally gushing over Bush's flight suit photo op finally asking the tough questions and giving George W.'s murky military service the attention it richly merited long ago.

George W. Bush was eager to send young men and women to die in Iraq for a war of choice. When he had a chance to fight, he chose to serve in the National Guard. He was lax, at best, in fulfilling his obligations there. His entire life reflects a pattern of privilege and protection from responsibility.

"We continue to build prosperity and economic security for our people!" We often hear that glowing exclamation from the president. What about the millions of jobs we've lost during his term? How's it feel to be the first president since Herbert Hoover to preside over a net loss of jobs during your term of office?

What about the record $500 billion deficit and fiscal trainwreck conductor Bush has us on? What about his reckless spending and refusal to include the cost of war in his budget?

When he spoke about "economic security," Bush must have missed the fact that the U.S. trade deficit reached a record $490 billion, and that translates directly into the loss of more jobs.

Robert Scott, a trade scholar at the Economic Policy Institute, tells The New York Times, "As a consequence of the trade deficit people are being pushed out of well-paying jobs with benefits in manufacturing and into poor-paying service jobs often with no benefits."

But that's a good thing, according to Bush's top economic adviser. Sending U.S. jobs to Mexico, China and India is positive for our economy, according to Gregory Mankiw, who chairs George W. Bush's Council of Economic Advisers.

Mankiw trumpeted the value of the exodus of U.S. jobs, saying, "Outsourcing is a growing phenomenon, but it's something that we should realize is probably a plus for the economy in the long run."

Tell that to the 2.8 million people who've lost manufacturing jobs since Bush took office. Mankiw quickly back-peddled, whining that his comments were "misinterpreted." That pitiful, lie-spewing automaton, White House spokesman Scott McClellan, defended Mankiw and blew off calls for his resignation. "That's kind of laughable," McClellan said. "Our economic team is doing a great job helping the president work to strengthen the economy even more. The president is committed to creating jobs here at home!" The only thing laughable in all this is the Bush administration's disgraceful record in creating jobs.

George W. Bush has made the world a far more dangerous place, we are stuck in a bloody mess in Iraq and our nation is less secure! George W. Bush's tax cuts benefit the richest Americans at the expense of the middle class and corporations are paying the lowest taxes since the 1930s! George W. Bush should be run out of office on a rail!

Will the American people wake up and send him packing?
Cavallo Offline
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rick, what's the source for this?
DrMaddVibe Offline
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http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=356862003

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/26/sprj.irq.centrifuge/

http://www.command-post.org/archives/004420.html

http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/iraqmissile.cfm

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2003/10/278384.html

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?s=955f54b7f005df1fda72cf49f2e86c74&threadid=4438

http://billhobbs.com/hobbsonline/003279.html

http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-banal11.html

http://www.command-post.org/oped/oped_pda.html
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Excuse me, uh Rick...
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Rick, please step up and swing for the fences.
CWFoster Offline
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I'm not going to waste my time repeating the same statements over and over, can you find ant new issues, or are you just going to keep harping on a pointless issue?
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Sorry CW, I'm going to top this until Rick actually recants that his post was the biggest collection of lies ever banded together and pasted on this board.

The links I posted almost go line by line refuting every point made by Rick. I guess it's easier to keep saying GW's a baby killer with oil for blood than it is having to say you were wrong and listened to morons with no factual proof!
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I'd like to ask a question. Why is there so much animosity towards the President? I'd really like to have at least a spark of understanding and please can we leave the oil in Iraq out of the reason - thanks.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Liz, I don't think so. See the whole war was about oil. GW is going to bomb everyone until we've secured ALL of the oil on this planet, or so Rick would have anyone listening believe.

Don't know about where you live, but so far the price of gasoline at the pumps isn't going down that much. So much for that assumption.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Is today the day Rick?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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Cavallo
http://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/gallagher152.html
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Liz62803

it's more then animosity.

in the upper left, you will see "search the boards" type in RICKAMAVEN and search for last i month.
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DrMaddVibe

what day?
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CWFoster

you are not repeating, i am.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Rick, do you know the difference between factual resources and an editorial column?

Do the editorial columns dictate your behavioral patterns on other issues or is this just reserved for President Bush? While the editorial pages in most major papers are fun to read, they offer people a soap-box to stand on and get their point across. At the end of the day, everyone sees it as a place to vent for people that can't or won't go about the process of actual change.
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DrMaddVibe

"Rick, do you know the difference between factual resources and an editorial column?"

no.
HockeyDad Offline
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Rick,

Do you prefer 7-Up or Dr Pepper?
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HockeyDad

7 up. did you know they are the only soda that lists all it's ingredients.

from "the big book of big secrets."
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Coca-Cola once contain cocaine
HockeyDad Offline
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Rick,

Did you know that Dr Pepper/Seven Up Bottling Group, Inc. is 40% owned by Cadbury Schweppes and 53% owned by the Carlyle Group?

It is a very complicated world we live in. The lines blur often. I'm glad to hear that you support one of the Carlyle Group's various industries and products.
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HockeyDad

i'm glad i haven't finished the 6 pack of diet 7 that i bought before christmas. i may just drink my vodka straight.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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HockeyDad

incidentaly what source can i find re: "53% owned by the Carlyle Group?"
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Rick,

That's an easy one....

http://www.hoovers.com/dr-pepper/seven-up-bottling/--ID__40853--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml

Or this one....

http://www.carlylegroup.com/eng/index.html

Kinda leaves a bad taste in your mouth knowing you support and buy the products of one of the companies you hate the most? While you're at it, have you purged your portfolio of Haliburton stock? Are you sure?

HockeyDad Offline
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A cold Dr Pepper sounds good right now!

Cavallo Offline
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no worries, rick. sprite tastes just as good, imo. :)
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Nothing goes better with a case of reality like a big thick frosty glass of some Sweet Crude!
Cavallo Offline
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my ex-gf, who's waaaaaaaaaaaaay further left than oh, say, jane fonda -- she LOVES dr. pepper. i can't help but wonder if i should tell her the news?
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Do it Tony,
Do it.
LOL
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S.Haven't had a Dr. Pepper since they discontinued their 10 ounce returnable bottle.
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Maven is a **** fart and he's never going to believe anything but the contrived crap peddled by the pedantic populists polluting our airwaves on the major broadcast networks. Don't try to confuse him with facts... He’ll just spew more BS out of the other side of his mouth when you plug one side with the truth. Sorry Rick, you know I love you, you’re just a moron, you can’t help the way you were born, it’s like being gay. (I'm sorry, was I just thinking that? or did I actually type it?)
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HockeyDad

i don't have a portfolio. i do own 20,00o shares of apuuy that i bought for $0.06 a share and if it ever goes to a dollar, my kids can have it for a cruise or something.
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Rick,

Of course you have a portfolio, the only question is how actively you can manage it.

At a minimum, there is Social Security which is managed by the Federal government. This is invested in Treasury bills which helps fund the national debt.

Then there are 401K and 403B plans that are usually directly to mutual funds managed by the fund company.

There are traditional company pensions that are managed by the company itself. Most city, state, and county pensions are this type. Some companies got in trouble with these for investing too much in their own stock.

Then there is insurance. Yes, even insurance is a type of portfolio. You pay a premium, they invest the money, they pay out claims, and skim a profit off the game. It is capitalism and socialism at its best---profit taking and redistribution of wealth combined! Universal life insurance even allows you to direct your premiums to specific mutual funds while the other types are much more indirect.

Any source of retirement money you expect to flow in is some sort of porfolio. Because much of it may be very indirectly managed, it becomes quite hard to purge all of it of offending companies. That is the hypocritical beauty of boycotts!

Did you know the debtor-in-financing source for US Airways emerging from bankruptcy is the State of Alabama teachers pension fund? You never know who is investing in what unless you research it.

You never know what you might find until you start doing the research. You might find investments that are so indirect that you can't change them and then all you can do is stand up and shout "I'm making money off Haliburton!" Don't worry, it's not so hard to do. Just take a big gulp of an ice cold Seven-Up and the words will just flow!

Here's a stock tip for you. Schlumberger. It is a French company that is a competitor to Haliburton. They could stand to profit heavily under a Democrat in the White House if the DNC follows through on their rhetoric. Expect to see them make a few campaign donations!

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