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I WOULD LIKE SOME INPUT REGARDING EDWARDS
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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Feb 20 2004, 4:15 AM EST
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i can't get a handle on john edwards. i liked dean and i'm not too happy with kerry.

i would appreciate anyone that has done some research or has any information to bring me up to speed.
Gene363 Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Feb 20 2004, 4:32 AM EST
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Vote for Bush.
eleltea Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Feb 20 2004, 5:44 AM EST
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Rick, did you see "The Candidate" starring Robert Redford? Your answer is there.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Feb 20 2004, 6:00 AM EST
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eleltea

that's john edwards?

****, i'll vote for anyone to get bush out before it's too late, if it isn't already.
tailgater Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Feb 20 2004, 6:16 AM EST
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He's a trial lawyer turned millionaire, turned Senator that should be right up your alley.
He made umpteen millions on the bogus tobacco lawsuits and agrees with you that people "deserve" entitlements and to be protected from big corporate America because citizens are too weak minded to make decisions for themselves.

I'm surprised it took a Dean meltdown to have you join his camp...
00camper Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Feb 20 2004, 9:00 AM EST
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Smooth-talking, telegenic trial lawyer-turned-senator. The Democrats will run him as VP with Kerry in order to win more southern states. Yawn.
dbguru Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Feb 20 2004, 10:38 AM EST
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Edward's Two Americas stump speech has definitely resonated with voters. His political skills are awesome and probably better than Kerry (who I support), but a 1 term for a Senator will always raise doubts on experience. That's why Hillary didn't run. Edwards also lacks that National Security/miltary/foreign policy experience that Kerry is very strong on given his Senate and Vietnam experience. Considering the president's critical role in these areas, Edwards weaknesses would be an issue in a general election whereas with Kerry....(BRING IT ON!!!)

Seriously, I hope Edwards does an 8 year stint as Kerry's VP and then takes over as President for another 8. (im sure the Bushies would love that!!)
DB
bassdude Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Feb 20 2004, 11:15 AM EST
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Wow 2 Dem Millionaires on the same ticket?? I am sure they really relate to the middle class folks.

Wasn't it the Dems who pushed thru NAFTA and threatened to raise my taxes?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Feb 20 2004, 11:35 AM EST
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bassdude

yes they did shove NAFTA down our throats.

maybe nadar was correct. there is no difference between the democrats and the republicans.
Cavallo Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Feb 20 2004, 12:52 PM EST
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edwards isn't real popular here in NC. he's shown up for like only 38% of the votes in his present job -- too busy running for president to do his current job.

back to bed with me now. later.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Feb 20 2004, 2:09 PM EST
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Cavallo

very interesting, thanks
ducati996 Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Feb 21 2004, 6:07 AM EST
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Isn't Edwards a liability lawyer? If so, that's enough for me to not like him.
CWFoster Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Feb 21 2004, 11:21 AM EST
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Wow, then Kerry and Edwards have about the same abentee rate! But it looks like Edwards might be a tad more responsible. Who's AWOL???
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Feb 22 2004, 12:40 AM EST
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CWFoster

"Who's AWOL???" why, it's little w, still.
CWFoster Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Feb 22 2004, 12:57 PM EST
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He was AWOL THIRTY years ago Rick, These two were absent from representing their constituancy %66 of the time in the PAST TWO YEARS!!! Now it's YOUR turn to "conveiniently ignore the facts" and "blindly follow your leader" or is that tripe only for conservatives?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Feb 22 2004, 1:46 PM EST
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CWFoster

no disrespect, but i am trying to follow the gist of what you said.

i understand the lack of interest both edwards and kerry have demonstrated in the performance of their duties representing their people and i agree that is not to be condoned, and must be factored into any decisions about voting for them.

the "blindly follow your leader" i don't understand since i don't have a leader.

most important is, if as you say, little w was awol
30 years ago, there is no statute of limitations for going awol. until he is brought to trial and convicted or aquited, he is still awol. the discharge papers he received are revocable.
donutboy2000 Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Feb 22 2004, 2:04 PM EST
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Will Ralph Nadir once again keep the Democrat from being elected? What's up with this guy? Could he be a Republican dupe?
bloody spaniard Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Feb 22 2004, 4:58 PM EST
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Donut, that nutty, socialist, Lebanese-American might garner 1- 3% of the vote from the Democrats. I still haven't forgiven him for taking the Corvair off the roads.

But don't worry. The Democrats will pick up those votes and more from illegals who are registered to vote through the DMV (driver's license), and by handing out Kools & $5 bills to every homeless bum in the inner cities. Then busing 'em to the nearest voting site. It almost worked last time. By my estimation, Gore's popular vote margin over Dubya was probably made up of illegals & indigents. I also wonder if the military votes were "miscounted or delayed...". Either way, I'm sorry that I voted for this liberal president.

As far as Edwards, I thought that he was a sleazy trial pimp who had won a number of medical lawsuits (cerebral palsy?). He helped bankrupt a number of hospitals and doctors.

He'll knock Dubya out of the ballpark if they ever debate. People seem to like purty, smooth- talkers.
CWFoster Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Feb 22 2004, 7:33 PM EST
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Rick- ...the discharge papers he received are revocable.

According to WHAT regulation? I'm aware of some sailors who are placed on legal hold pending the outcome of JAG proceedings. The reason is that military members are subject to the UCMJ, not civilians. The DD-214 (military discharge) is an indication of itself that the military obligation has been fulfilled, and there is no further issue to be dealt with. YOU have accused those of us who feel, that despite any shortcomings he MAY have Bush is the best out there, of blindly following our "leader". There IS a statute of limitations of sorts on AWOL, or UA as we call it in the Navy. After thirty days the party is no longer AWOL/UA they are deserters! Deserters are NOT given honorable discharges! If you want to find fault, please show some of the intelligence you have in the past, and quit beating this dead horse. Find something legitimate!
bloody spaniard Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Feb 23 2004, 2:25 AM EST
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I think you're quibbling over minutae. So what if the man got his daddy to pull a few strings so that he could get into the National Air Guard? There's no shame in serving in the Guard. He supposedly did his duty & got out. That's more than most of us did. There's no solid evidence that he sat around reading magazines, etc. And if he did, SO WHAT? Most of those stories circulating are apocryphal (been waiting since 79 to use that word) anyway.

To me Dubya represents the mediocrity that results from a pampered life, BUT he coulda gone off to London on a Rhodes Scholarship sponsored by the segregationist Sen. Proxmeier(sp?). Then flunked out because he was too busy coordinating protests with the Soviets against our military. What's lower than that?

Now, CW, what do you think of Edwards?
Puff Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Feb 29 2004, 3:28 PM EST
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John Edwards is an excellent candidate. His career is not so lenghty that entanglements that seem inevitable in DC have not yet ensnared him as they do even the best of them. He is strong on changing the NAFTA which has caused the jobs to hemorrhaging jobs. People made jokes about the Perot statement about the sucking sound being made as jobs leave the US. He comes across as sincere. There are a myriad of issues that he sides with the "average joe". Tort reform? Well consider this, you go in the hospital with a bad leg that requires amputation. They remove the "good" leg. Then they still have to remove the "bad" leg. Now you are legless. The max the Bush Administration thinks you should get is $250,000 of course %33 goes to the attorney that has represented you in court. I could go on for days about issues that actually impact the silent magority of Americans, them being the $20k a year incomes that never will have a pot to piss in and can count on there fellow Americans not giving a damn about them cause there is nothing in it for them. Let me end by saying this, Every "self-made man I evr met had PLENTY of help getting there. Plenty baby.
CWFoster Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Feb 29 2004, 4:05 PM EST
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I don't know much about Edwards, but I CAN say this for a fact! Cavallo says the good constituants of Edwards don't think much of the job he's been doing representing them. Bush as Governor of Texas, was the only governor to get re-elected in about fifty years! What do you make of that? I can't understand why Rick, and others like him are so anti-Bush! Not when there's no one any better to do the job on the horizon!
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