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ACLU sensitivity training program in schools
65gtoman Offline
#1 Posted:
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Bullied 'gay' students awarded $1.1 million

(WorldNetDaily) Six homosexual students won a $1.1 million settlement yesterday against a California school district accused of failing to provide protection from physical and verbal abuse. The American Civil Liberties Union, which represented the students, said the settlement includes "a comprehensive training program for administrators, staff and students to combat anti-gay harassment," reported the Morgan Hill Times in the San Jose, Calif., suburb of Morgan Hill. The ACLU said the sensitivity training program required for all district administrators, teachers, campus monitors, custodians, school safety officers and bus drivers should become a national model for "schools everywhere that care about protecting their students from harassment." The program will emphasize issues surrounding "sexual orientation and gender identity." Students will participate in an age-appropriate program on the same issues.

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Sylance Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 06-19-2003
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Hmmmm, I think I should get a piece of this pie. I have a big nose and I got teased relentlessly when I was in school. Who’s standing up for me? I’ve carried these scars all my life.
tailgater Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
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What a joke.

Whah, I'm being teased. Whah, I want money. Whah.

Well Boo-freaking-hoo.

More proof positive that the ACLU will be the demise of this country as we know it.

Maybe the ACLU should provide sensitivity training to the perverts in NAMBLA so they can promote a more healthy abuse program before they rape and kill the innocent boys.

No wonder I don't own a gun. I'd likely use it on these freaks.


CWFoster Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 12-12-2003
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you know, aside from the basic "wrongness" of this, I have one major question. Obviously, these guys were in SOME way advertising that they were gay, otherwise, how would the "bullies" know who to pick on (In my day it was whoever thay didn't like, you didn't actually HAVE to be gay to be called names, but who would confirm it by running to the ACLU?) So if they were making thier 'preference' known, what do you suppose would happen if some of the regular, straight guys started wearing shirts that proudly stated "I LIKE P***Y!" Gee, the regular straight guys would probably have to get the ACLU off thier backs by going through thier sensitivity training for how not to create a sexually hostile environment for women. Now I ask, is this a double standard or WHAT!
JonR Offline
#5 Posted:
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Question...Why always in California !!! LMAO JonR
JonR Offline
#6 Posted:
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Okay how about sensitivity training toward cigar smokers after all were people too. JonR
CWFoster Offline
#7 Posted:
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Right on JonR! if gays can grab each others butts at Disneyland, and suck face in public, I ought to be able to smoke my cigars in any darn restaurant I please! And I shouldn't have to go outside to smoke at work!
Charlie Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
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What a joke, but what else do you expect from ACLU!

Charlie
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
65gtoman

we finally agree on something. the aclu is a pain in the rear end. they have gone from defending people that needed some help to self becoming a leach on society. they should be forced to try all their cases in front of judge judy.

what CWFoster said is true "Obviously, these guys were in SOME way advertising that they were gay, otherwise, how would the "bullies" know who to pick on."

i better mark my calander. 1/7/04 i agreed with both 65gtoman and CWFoster.
sketcha Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 03-26-2003
Posts: 3,238
Holy Jesus! I need to sit down. Oh wait, I already am. Maybe I should lie down. RICK has disdain for the ACLU?

Gee, I wonder why California is experiencing such huge financial woes.
Cigarick Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 07-28-2002
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What about kids who in some way advertise that they are fat, or shy, or have too many pimples, or braces, or are marginally retarded? A lot of the so-called "teasing" that goes on in schools today borders on psychological torture. It's a major problem, but the ACLU is not the solution.

Some of that crap went on back when I was in school, but it was a lot less back then because our vice-principal was armed with a paddle.
65gtoman Offline
#12 Posted:
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Now I have two problems with this. the first one is that I personally do not want homo's around my children and most of all being "brainwashed" by some so called sensitivity training program, I as an American have the right to believe these gays are disgusting and I don’t want some homo telling my children some spin on how great being gay is, I don’t want my kids having gay friends or even shaking gay peoples hands.

They should have a program that tells the children most gays have aids



Second, why is god banned and enforced, but this new homo training/recruiting program is ok? if there is no god, there should be no gay speech.


This isn’t about gay rights, GAYS HAVE NO RIGHTS IN MY BOOK.

They only have the same rights as me right? NO because of these new HATE CRIME LAWS for example if I was to punch a straight guy and bust his nose, I would get say 1 year in jail.

Now if I punch a homo, im going to jail for 5 years.

These laws are also going into so called (HATE speech) if the aclu has there way, I would be jailed for saying what I just said.
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Im sick of it, im sick of the homo's, im sick of the 50-60% taxs, im sick of these boarder hoppers steeling my money, im sick of the racist affirmative action. Im sick of our school systems being destroyed and manipulated by the enemy within. Im sick of turning on the TV and seeing some gay boy on every channel.

, im sick of France, im sick of the UN.
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Gay rights, why do they have them? There black white red yellow. They need freaking rights? Think about that, its silly.

How is gay bashing any worse then bush bashing? Maybe the people that support bush should get bush rights. And goto the schools and give a republican training program.

Hate crime laws should be applied to bush bashers…..

Now that’s really nuts huh? LOL

But think about it, that’s just what there doing, gay rights what a joke.

What happened to this country? You think calling a homo a slang name is somehow equal to calling a black the N word? It’s a big difference but they would like you to believe that the “gay race” is somehow equal to the black race or the Spanish or the Asians.

But they did, lol

CWFoster Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 12-12-2003
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(Raising hand at the fat part of Cigarricks list) I know of what you speak BRO! First hand, and I'll tell ya, there's no end to the browbeating you take for being a little overweight in the military, no matter how well you do your job otherwise. But The ACLU isn't pounding down doors to represnt me, and I wouldn't have 'em if they were. Like Rick Maven Said thier a leech on society! as you said it's gone on forever. I like to think about the fifties, a time and a generation that rebuilt an entire world devestated by war. What was going on then? What changed? For the better, or worse? Our schools are a mess, and whatever you believe about God, or religeon, it all started going downhill when they took prayer out of schools. Maybe the kids thought someone was watching them and keeping score and maybe not. But yes the paddle was there too! Watching violent Bugs bunny cartoons didn't harm kids in the sixties anymore than watching the Three Stooges beat the C**P out of each other hurt the kids that ultimately rebuilt the world. My theory is two fold. 1) We went from teaching absolutes to relativistic values (well, it's not as bad as ______). 2) We have gotten away from accountability. As bad as Nixon may have been he knew when he was caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and resigned in disgrace rather than be impeached. What did Clinton do? He risked the shame and humiliation and the trauma of our nation to gamble that his popularity would make him 'untouchable' and the GOP weasles in Congress proved him right! What messages are we giving the kids with THAT! WE have to start assuming responsibility for the way things are, because if WE aren't going to be part of the solution, we just become more of the problem. D**N I got carried away. Peace Out!
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#14 Posted:
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65gtoman

you have too much hatred in your heart and it prevents your brain from thinking logically.

i thought you were a christian.
65gtoman Offline
#15 Posted:
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Am I supposed to like having gay views forced onto my children, maybe I should just not say anything, go with the system. Blindly follow the rest of the sheep?

Maybe you should stop hating bush, you have alot of hate in your heart too buddy.

As far as my true feelings about god that’s something very complicated and I can’t get into that on this post.
But I will say this im for Christian beliefs and views and for it to be in the schools {somewhat}, but I do not pray , goto church or read the bible anymore. I was raised a Christian and went to a catholic school for a few years.

What do you agree with rick? you said you agree. lol

Do you agree that the aclu should not teach gay class to children? If not state your reason for agreeing with me.

Maybe you should retract your remark lol


And to close this off, I leave you all with some king james bible babble for no other reason then to upset the atheists.


"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Hehehe




Cigarick Offline
#16 Posted:
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First of all, "most gays" do not have AIDS.

Secondly, teaching kids that it's not cool to verbally and physically attack other people because they're different is not
Cigarick Offline
#17 Posted:
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First of all, "most gays" do not have AIDS.

Secondly, teaching kids that it's not cool to verbally and physically attack other people because they're different is not "brainwashing" or "recruiting."

I used to be homophobic until I met a few of them through friends of friends. They're just like the rest of us in every way but one. I'll never understand why some people feel so threatened by that.

Welcome back to the Stone Age.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#18 Posted:
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65gtoman

Do you agree that the aclu should not teach gay class to children? yes i agree. that is not what school is for. i have no particular beef with gays and lesbians, but there seems to be a bunch of shows with gays telling people how to dress and all sorts of crap. i catch those shows as i am remoting from channel to channel and i find those people on the shows annoying as hell.

but the fact that you are so mad, almost in a rage doesn't mean you are correct saying all gays have aids.

also i would suggest you only punch straight guys and do less jail time.

years ago i worked as a fuller brush man (ask your older relatives) and part of my territory was an area in la that was mostly gays and lesbians. only one guy ever hit on me, and i worked that route for 3 years.

the lesbians seemed to want to live like they assumed bachelors lived. their houses and apartment were always dirty, they lived like slobs.

the gays lived like they assumed women lived. their apartments were always decorated with whatever they thought looked fancy, colorful, and eye catching. they used lavander closet spray instead of room spray. the few that had dogs had them debarked or whatever taking away the dog's ability to bark is called. they wanted little children dogs, but not the noise.

they both were strange groups. i always had this wierd feeling that the gays closed their eyes when they went to the toilet and the lesbians took a dump and just pulled up their pants. toilet paper was not part of their life.

patman Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 12-22-2003
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It's easy to look at any group (diffrent from yours)and find issues, distane and even hatred. That is what our society breeds. We all suffer from what-a-bout-me-itis. Calling some one names and focusing on thier diferences is known as biggotry, raceisim, classisim or any other form of harrassment and aleniation you can come up with.

The way I see it is like this:

1. God loves everyone. So should we.

2. Everyone is a sinner and we all have the blessing of forgiveness through Christ, if we want it

3. Christ made friends with sinners, so should we.

4. "In Christ there is no man nor woman, Greek nor Jew, Slave nor Free"
What does this say to me? That I am no different than a Murder, Rapeist, Homo, Slut, Drug Addict, Drunk, Arab or anyone else in Gods eyes. A sin is a sin and it's all bad. None is worse that another in the eyes of God.

I understand the concern of homosexuality in schools but I also am concerned about raceisim and drugs and alcohol in the school system as well. The only real protection I can give my children is a healthy home in witch they can voice their fears and concerns and set the best example I can.

The only way I can do that is to focus on serving God in all that I do. Once I figure out that it's not about me and I keep my goals focused on glorifying God the Father then everything else will fall into place regardless of what environment my children go to school in and whe my neighbor is.


Sorry for rambeling, this is just my opinion...


65gtoman Offline
#20 Posted:
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Liberalism's Totalitarian Side

The following items will show just how frighteningly little many liberals actually care about your freedoms----especially freedom of speech and freedom of association----how frighteningly close many liberals are to being oppressive and even fascistic.

1. In 1989, in Madison, Wisconsin, two heterosexual women who advertised for a roommate and turned down a woman because she was a lesbian, were summoned before Madison's Equal Opportunity Commission, interrogated for hours, ordered to pay thousands in damages, and forced to attend "sensitivity training" (brainwashing?) sessions at a local homosexual organization. (After three years, enormous public outcry and a $10,000 legal tab, the Madison City Council dropped the penalties.)

2. In 1991, well-known liberal attorney Alan Dershowicz acknowledged that: "Political correctness is the most serious issue on college campuses. We are tolerating and teaching intolerance and hypocrisy [and, he could have added, censorship and fascism, etc.

3. According to a 1991 Time magazine article: "Several schools have punished students for expressing religious objections to homosexuality or, as at the University of Washington, questioning a professor's assertion that lesbians make the best mothers."

4. In 1991, a homosexual named Eric Pollard wrote the following about the radical homosexual group ACT-UP: "I have helped to create a truly fascist organization....[W]e subscribed to consciously subversive modes, drawn largely from the voluminous Mein Kampf [of Hitler], which some of us studied as a working model."

5. In 1991, a Minneapolis Catholic Archdiocese was fined $15,000 and assessed $20,000 in damages after homosexuals complained that the church denied them their "right" to meet in church-owned facilities.

6. In 1991, mandatory "sensitivity training" lectures were held at a state hospital in Pueblo, Colorado. Employees were urged to sign a form declaring their "imperfect attitudes toward gays and lesbians" and to wear buttons stating "it's okay to be gay." Those who declined were walked to the front, told to turn and face their colleagues.

7. In 1992, the Attorney General of Hawaii ruled that, under a state "gay rights" (sad wrongs) law, church leaders are legally forced to consider homosexuals for all church positions (except the pastorate itself).

8. In 1992, Denver public school teachers, including kindergarten teachers, came under pressure from their superiors to teach homosexuality is normal.

9. In 1994, in Sweden, an evangelical pastor was jailed for preaching a sermon from Romans 1 ruled to be "belittling" to homosexuals.

10. In 1994, the government of Ontario, Canada, imposed a speech code law on its universities, banning comments about sexual orientation found to cause a "negative environment or climate." (Is that vague enough?) Speech overheard off-campus, at social functions, during academic work, even over the telephone, can be punished. Guilty students could be suspended, forced into "sensitivity training," or even expelled.

11. In 1995, a federal district court affirmed a New Jersey "gay rights" (sad wrongs) amendment which makes it illegal(!) to say or print anything which could indirectly "promote discrimination" against homosexuals.

12. In 2000, Daniel Mindus reported in National Review: "Recognizing the gap between their lesson plans and most parents sensibilities, mainstream sex educators openly embrace a policy of secrecy. The Centers for Disease Control lauds one program, Becoming a Responsible Teen, that insists students sign a contract of secrecy; if a student talks to his parents about what he has learned in class, he is thrown out of the program.

13. In October 2002, John Leo of U.S. News & World Report noted that: "In Saskatchewan [Canada] last year, a newspaper was fined for publishing an ad that quoted Bible verses on homosexuality. For this [so-called] human-rights violation, the Saskatoon StarPhoenix and the man who took out the ad had to pay $1,500." And he also reported: "Sweden is about to forge ahead of Saskatchewan by passing a constitutional amendment banning all speech or material opposing homosexuality. When it does, remarks that offend gays could bring a jail term of up to four years. Religious objections to homosexuality would not be allowed, even in churches."

These are just a few examples of the many outrages liberals are perpetrating in this country and elsewhere. If these don't motivate you to get involved in protecting your freedoms, we don't know what will.
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65gtoman Offline
#21 Posted:
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Lenin, Stalin and Hitler all had "sensitivity training programs"
65gtoman Offline
#22 Posted:
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Lenin, Stalin and Hitler all had HATE CRIME LAWS TOO.
65gtoman Offline
#23 Posted:
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what gto said!
pabloescabar Offline
#24 Posted:
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I find it very hard to believe that a gay guy hit on maven. you two must have been drunk and he must have been blind.
Messier11 Offline
#25 Posted:
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You have every right to pull your kids out of any public school that you don't feel is doing the "right thing" (my words)towards educating them. It is after all the job of those schools to give everyone a chance at an education. Put your kids in a private school of your choice, as I am sure there are no "homos" allowed there.
"..most gays have aids" I really would like to see that research.
"GAYS HAVE NO RIGHTS IN MY BOOK." They do as people and students within a community.
Finally, you bash this group to pieces but can't type "****"??!?? I know, some of your best friends...If you are going to truly hate at least go all the way.
65gtoman Offline
#26 Posted:
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All isn’t that cute, a little liberal is going to try to push the blacks into this and Miss quote me.


Maybe you should read my paper I posted called queer eye for the black guy.

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