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Hypocritical Abortion Law
Sylance Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 06-19-2003
Posts: 592
From:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114016,00.html

Woman Refuses Caesarean, Charged With Murder

Friday, March 12, 2004
SALT LAKE CITY — As Melissa Ann Rowland's unborn twins got closer to birth, doctors repeatedly told her they would likely die if she did not have a Caesarean section. She refused, and one later was stillborn.

Authorities charged 28-year-old Rowland with murder on Thursday, saying she exhibited "depraved indifference to human life," according to court documents. One nurse told police that Rowland said she would rather "lose one of the babies than be cut like that."

The case could affect abortion rights and open the door to the prosecution of mothers who smoke or don't follow their obstetrician's diet, said Marguerite Driessen, a law professor at Brigham Young University.

"It's very troubling to have somebody come in and say we're going to charge this mother for murder because we don't like the choices she made," she said.

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I find this and other stories like this very frustrating. We say it’s a mother’s right to choose abortion because the fetus is not a human being until birth, but then we get this story as well as Scott Peterson’s “DOUBLE” murder trial saying something completely different. So is a fetus a human being or a piece of property?

Perhaps Scott Peterson should be charged with one count of murder and one count of personal property destruction.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,440
I don't agree with the notion that a baby is some blob called a fetus.

Oh sure you can get all medical talk on me if you want, but abortion is exactly what it's name implies. There's nothing pretty about it. It shouldn't be used as birth control but it is. Some late-term abortions ARE criminal. Sawing apart a baby that could thrive IF it was allowed to travel through the birth canal or be delivered cesaeran.

I've yet to see a "Fetus On Board" sign in a car, or a pregnant woman talking about which color to paint the fetuses room and I sure as hell haven't seen a bumper sticker stating "My fetus is an honor student at Blah-blah School".

Why bother bringing up Scott in this? Are you the one person that really thinks he DIDN'T kill his wife and baby?!? His lies put him at the very same location his wife and son wash up on shore. States he's going golfing, er no fishing on Christmas day?!? With a pregnant wife? BS!!! Ever see the "boat" he owned? It's the kind Kmart has chained for sale outside most of their nurseries. In San Francisco bay?

Reap and sow. Reap and sow.
00camper Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 07-11-2003
Posts: 2,326
Saw a bumper sticker the other day:

"If it's not a baby then you're not pregnant."

That about sums it up for me.
Sylance Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 06-19-2003
Posts: 592
DMV,

I’m right there with you. For the record I’m against abortion. I believe it’s our consequence free culture that supports it. I bring up Scott Peterson because I want to point out the hypocritical nature of our laws. When Bush outlawed partial birth abortions, California was the first state to say his decision was unconstitutional… but in the same news cast I hear how they are charging Peterson with a double murder. Huh!!?

All I’m saying is you can’t have some laws saying a fetus is not a human being and some others stating it is. As for Peterson guilty or not guilty… that’s a whole other thread.
Cavallo Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 01-05-2004
Posts: 2,796
i am adamantly pro-CHOICE, and i emphasize CHOICE because i am *not* pro-ABORTION. i cannot get pregnant, and it's not on me or any other man to tell a woman what she must do if she becomes preggers.

my simplistic view is: if you're against abortion, then don't have one.

i do think the abortion football has been kicked into way too much political ground and has not enough medical basis anymore. there is a LOT more work that needs to be done to understand the pro's and con's of it more fully.

it's not a procedure that automatically condemns a woman to a nightmare hell life where every day afterwards she moans over her poor choice and can never again become pregnant -- though it does happen to a few.

it's also not a procedure like clipping a toenail that is quick and simple with virtually no risks -- short- or long-term -- to a woman's physical and mental health.

personally, i think that it should always be a last resort procedure performed in the first trimester and only very rarely in the second (and only then when the woman's life is in imminant danger).

more research is necessary about the effects of abortion on a woman's body and mind before lawmakers go passing laws about the procedure.
CWFoster Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 12-12-2003
Posts: 5,414
I'm pro-life. Before you think I'm some chauvanist trying to dictate my views to women, hear me out. I'm not going to try to force my Christian ethic upon you, nor am I going to wring my hands and ask repeatedly why you can't see what's "right". I was adopted at the age of 4 weeks old, in 1959, when ANY abortion was still "sho' nuff" illegal. In that per Roe vs. Wade world, I was adopted by two very loving parents who probably spoiled mee too much, and let me get away with things that I probably shouldn't have, but I turned out alright, so I guess they did a good job! If an abortion was as easy to obtain in 1959 as it is today, I probably wouldn't be typing this right now! So, it would be hypocritical of me to say it should be up to ANY individual to arbitrarily end the life of a viable fetus!
Sylance Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 06-19-2003
Posts: 592
Hard to argue with that. Thanks CW!
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