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How 9-11 happened, Ann Coulter
usahog Offline
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Ann Coulter April 1, 2004

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/ac20040401.shtml

Hog
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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ANN COULTER is a moron, a liar, a pig, a disguting human being, mean, hurtful, and her mother dresses her funny.

she is an example of why men call women c***s.
usahog Offline
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Why Rick?? because she tells the Truth weather it hurts or NOT??? LMAO!!!!!!

Hog
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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no, because she lies, makes up BS, and her mother dresses her funny.

you know i don't object to truth, but i do resent lies and i don't like nastiness.

i'll pull some quotes from my recent reading "take them at their words" by bruce j miller.

no editorializing. simply a list of quotes from rightr wing talk show hosts and others of their "ilk"

i am even surprised at some of the hatefull things these people say. i listen to one of the local talk shows with michael medford, george putnam, although i haven't heard him on the radio in a while, and some others whose names i can't recall. i disagree with much of what is said, but the people are polite.

just one quote from the big hero rush.

"the naacp should have riot rehersal. they should get a liquor store and practice robberies." from the nation 9-27-99. i guess that's not considered rascism.

i don't think you belong to this kind of group, whatever our differences of opinion are.
THL Offline
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Boy Rick, she sounds like a female Al Franken.
bloody spaniard Offline
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You guys are great! This is almost as good as a cup of java in the morning.

iron poor blood
Cavallo Offline
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i have TRIED to like ann. really, i have. i've given her every chance to be taken seriously and really WANT to like her writing.

the above article was so full of holes, though, that it makes swiss cheese look like solid steel.
Sylance Offline
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RICKAMAVEN,

You're allowed your opinion. But tell me, what part of the article are lies?
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How 9-11 happened - Ann Coulter - April 1, 2004

We don't need a "commission" to find out how 9-11 happened. The truth is in the timeline:

PRESIDENT CARTER, DEMOCRAT

In 1979, President Jimmy Carter allowed the Shah of Iran to be deposed by a mob of Islamic fanatics. A few months later, Muslims stormed the U.S. Embassy in Iran and took American Embassy staff hostage.

Carter retaliated by canceling Iranian visas. He eventually ordered a disastrous and humiliating rescue attempt, crashing helicopters in the desert.

PRESIDENT REAGAN, REPUBLICAN

The day of Reagan's inauguration, the hostages were released.

In 1982, the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was bombed by Muslim extremists.

President Reagan sent U.S. Marines to Beirut.

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut were blown up by Muslim extremists.

Reagan said the U.S. would not surrender, but Democrats threw a hissy fit, introducing a resolution demanding that our troops be withdrawn. Reagan caved in to Democrat caterwauling in an election year and withdrew our troops – bombing Syrian-controlled areas on the way out. Democrats complained about that, too.

In 1985, an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, was seized and a 69-year-old American was shot and thrown overboard by Muslim extremists.

Reagan ordered a heart-stopping mission to capture the hijackers after "the allies" promised them safe passage. In a daring operation, American fighter pilots captured the hijackers and turned them over to the Italians – who then released them to safe harbor in Iraq.

On April 5, 1986, a West Berlin discotheque frequented by U.S. servicemen was bombed by Muslim extremists from the Libyan Embassy in East Berlin, killing an American.

Ten days later, Reagan bombed Libya, despite our dear ally France refusing the use of their airspace. Americans bombed Gadhafi's residence, killing his daughter, and dropped a bomb on the French Embassy "by mistake."

Reagan also stoked a long, bloody war between heinous regimes in Iran and Iraq. All this was while winning a final victory over Soviet totalitarianism.

PRESIDENT BUSH I, MODERATE REPUBLICAN

In December 1988, a passenger jet, Pan Am Flight 103, was bombed over Lockerbie, Scotland, by Muslim extremists.

President-elect George Bush claimed he would continue Reagan's policy of retaliating against terrorism, but did not. Without Reagan to gin her up, even Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher went wobbly, saying there would be no revenge for the bombing.

In 1990, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.

In early 1991, Bush went to war with Iraq. A majority of Democrats opposed the war, and later complained that Bush didn't "finish off the job" with Saddam.

PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, DEMOCRAT

In February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim fanatics, killing five people and injuring hundreds.

Clinton, advised by ****** Clarke, did nothing.

In October 1993, 18 American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered.

Clinton responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid and ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News: "The youth ... realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat."

In November 1995, five Americans were killed and 30 wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by ****** Clarke, did nothing.

In June 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by ****** Clarke, did nothing.

Months later, Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city of Erbil.

Clinton, advised by ****** Clarke, lobbed some bombs into Iraq hundreds of miles from Saddam's forces.

In November 1997, Iraq refused to allow U.N. weapons inspections to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a U.S. U-2 spy plane.

Clinton, advised by ****** Clarke, did nothing.

In February 1998, Clinton threatened to bomb Iraq, but called it off when the United Nations said no.

On Aug. 7, 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by ****** Clarke, did nothing.

On Aug. 20, Monica Lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before the grand jury.

Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severely damaging a camel and an aspirin factory.

On Dec. 16, the House of Representatives prepared to impeach Clinton the next day.

Clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against Iraq, described by the New York Times as "by far the largest military action in Iraq since the end of the Gulf War in 1991."

The only time Clinton decided to go to war with anyone in the vicinity of Muslim fanatics was in 1999 – when Clinton attacked Serbians who were fighting Islamic fanatics.

In October 2000, our warship, the USS Cole, was attacked by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by ****** Clarke, did nothing.

PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH, REPUBLICAN

Bush came into office telling his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, he was "tired of swatting flies" – he wanted to eliminate al-Qaida.

On Sept. 11, 2001, when Bush had been in office for barely seven months, 3,000 Americans were murdered in a savage terrorist attack on U.S. soil by Muslim extremists.

Since then, Bush has won two wars against countries that harbored Muslim fanatics, captured Saddam Hussein, immobilized Osama bin Laden, destroyed al-Qaida's base, and begun to create the only functioning democracy in the Middle East other than Israel. Democrats opposed it all – except their phony support for war with Afghanistan, which they immediately complained about and said would be a Vietnam quagmire. And now they claim to be outraged that in the months before 9-11, Bush did not do everything Democrats opposed doing after 9-11.

What a surprise.


Ann Coulter is host of AnnCoulter.org, a Townhall.com member group. ©2004 Universal Press Syndicate


Where's the lie?

You might not like it because she's a woman. I know you don't like her because of her political affiliation, but I'd really like to see where the lies are in what she said.

I don't even think Rick read her article. We all know that fella can cut and paste with the best of them, but in reading and comprehension...you got some work bub!

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Rick, my friend, one cannot refute anything Coulter said by calling her a pig. She is an American homo sapiens with an opinion that is different from yours, and a lot of your cigar chomping buds agree with her. She is well educated, intelligent and apparently not much more loony than you or I, and she's got great legs.

The nasty name calling is one of your less endearing traits. If Rush used the c word, even off the air, they would hire him back at ESPN so they could fire him again. Why dont you give that up for what's left of Lent? Alternatively, you might apply for a job at ESPN.

The events and dates she enumerates are not disputable, although you may disagree with her conclusions. Are you saying, for example, that when she claims the Italians released the terrorists that Ann is lying and the Italians really do still have them in prison? I think probably you didn't read the article. I may not agree with everything she has ever written or said, but I'd still do her.
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Carter retaliated by canceling Iranian visas. He eventually ordered a disastrous and humiliating rescue attempt, crashing helicopters in the desert.

and the fact that the plan to release the hostages failed was because carter couldn't fly the helicopters properly?

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The day of Reagan's inauguration, the hostages were released.

no kidding. i refer you to the "october surprise." arrangements had been made by the reagan team to hold the hostages until after the election because the regean administration would treat iran better then carter did.

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On Dec. 16, the House of Representatives prepared to impeach Clinton the next day

the republicans spent a trillion, trillion dollars investigating clinton because he got a BJ in the white house. no convictions.

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Since then, Bush has won two wars against countries that harbored Muslim fanatics, captured Saddam Hussein, immobilized Osama bin Laden, destroyed al-Qaida's base, and begun to create the only functioning democracy in the Middle East other than Israel.

saddam was turned over to the americans by his security guard that had been holding him. we never captured him, he was handed over to us. democracy in iraq. you have got to be kidding. every day an american is killed there.

what i will concede is this article, unlike most of her rants is not nasty. as i promised, i will quote some of her snotty quotes as soon as i can compile them from the book i am reading.
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eleltea

i wasn't making any atempt to refute her.

you know i rarely call people names, little w excepted.
but, then, if it is true, it is not libel.

she has skinny legs and she has a bunch of pictures of herself on her web site. i think she thinks her appearance, which she obviously thinks is super-duper, is of some importance. it's not and she is not even close to super-duper.

i might have done her when i was 18 or 19, but now, i wouldn't do her with yours, as the expression goes.
eleltea Offline
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I disagree about the legs.
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Wow! It is so much clearer now. All democrats are evil and all republicans are the saviors of this gereat land. I feel so much better now. Thank you for bestowing this great shining ray of light from the sky. I fell so peaceful now knowing that our great land is in the hands of these wonderful messiahs (the republcans) that will lead us to the promised land. HALLELUJAH!!!!
eleltea Offline
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Glad you finally came around, Eb. Attaboy!
428cj Offline
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Wow, well at least someone here (uncleb) is learning something.
Lmao.
Sylance Offline
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Quote from RICKAMAVEN:
“you have got to be kidding. every day an american is killed there”

Hmmmm… by your definition we don’t have a democracy in America as well. Hundreds of Americans are murdered in America everyday. Using your definition I’m left to wonder if there’s a democracy anywhere in the world.


Quote from RICKAMAVEN:
“we never captured him, he was handed over to us”

Where’s your source for this information… and more importantly, does it matter? The result is important, not the method. We still got him.

Quote from RICKAMAVEN”
“the republicans spent a trillion, trillion dollars investigating clinton:

Come on… if you are going to call someone a liar, try to refrain from it yourself please. Trillions?

Quote from RICKAMAVEN:
“and the fact that the plan to release the hostages failed was because carter couldn't fly the helicopters properly”

I agree with you on this one. You cannot directly blame a president on a failed military operation, but you can place some blame if the operation was under funded and under planned. I’m not saying that happened here, but aren’t the democrats doing the same about our current Iraq situation?
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Sylance

thank you for quoting me.

of course people are killed everywhere. how many americans were killed in iraq before we invaded them. i would guess zero.

i'm glad he was captured and held by his security guards until he could be delivered to us. there were sources in most newspapers and many on-line reports. if we didn't capture him, then little w should not try to take credit.

a trillion trillion is a figure of speech meaning way too much was spent. feel free to correct my quote to "way too much" from "a trillion trillion."

oh, by the way, i didn't see any rebutal to the "october surprise." perhaps you are aware of it and would prefer not to bring the subject up again.
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reading the pervasiveness of lunacy from all sides on this and other posts like it has lead me to two things: one..i need to stop reading ALL of these posts and two..i think it was Pogo who said it - "I have seen the enemy and he is us"..someday the history books when talking about the absurdity of conflicts between groups like the protestants and catholics, muslims and jews, will have to add the democrats and republicans . . .
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ferd6

this is on my part, and i hope those opposed, good natured banter.

i don't expect anyone to change their minds, particularly the close minded evil doers on the right.

it does give both sides good practice spelling and compossing sentences, and arranging ideas into a useable form.

you see i am really an avid bush fan (check the picture post tomorrow for my picture post) and these other guys pretend i'm not, when in reality most of them are clinton fans, and will be working hard to get kerryberry elected. i will be doing my best to get my president reelected.

i hope you continue reading and enjoying the melodrama as it plays out to a crescendo when president george w bush gets reelected in 2004.
eleltea Offline
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The October Surprise. Every Democrat's favorite conspiracy theory. Possibly true. Possibly Jimmy Carter's hanging chads.
bloody spaniard Offline
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On a lighter note...

Eleltea, do you realize that you're handle is dangerously close to elelteta- which is ok if you're a large- breasted woman.

By the way, saw your reference to Ann as an "american homo sapien". Archie Bunker once defined homo sapien as a "killer ****". What are you saying about Coulter?

Ahhh Rick, you're beginning to rub off on me...

blood

PS: I like Ann. I saw her hold her own on CNN's Crossfire against CarVILE and another fast-talking dimwit with a bulb-shaped head & an Eyetaleean surname-(Begala or sumpin'like dat).

PPS: I've always said liberals LOVE mankind, it's people they CAN'T STAND.
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Coulter: Since then, Bush has won two wars against countries that harbored Muslim fanatics, captured Saddam Hussein, immobilized Osama bin Laden, destroyed al-Qaida's base, and begun to create the only functioning democracy in the Middle East other than Israel.

I seem to have a real problem with each and every verb and participle used in this sentence. Those that do not are living in a "dream world". While the verbs here are used properly and impart an action, they do not impart the truth, they impart someone's wishes.
bloody spaniard Offline
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Ok, AJ, if you so--yawnnnnn.

;-)
bloody spaniard Offline
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ZZZZZZZZZZZ, oh yeah, meant to say, if you SAY so ZZZZZZZZZZZZ
DrMaddVibe Offline
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October surprise?

Is that with tuna and noodles?

LOL!
MACS Offline
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Rick wrote-*ANN COULTER is a moron, a liar, a pig, a disguting human being, mean, hurtful, and her mother dresses her funny.

she is an example of why men call women c***s.

Wow rick--that was a well thought out, articulate response to Ann's column. I'm impressed.
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MACS(SW)

it is so rare that i get to use vulgarity, i suppose i should thank her for being everything i said.

do i have to always be sage and articulate? can't i be like you guys sometime?
MACS Offline
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Just making a point rick. If you're going to tell us to be articulate all the time, then practice what you preach.
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MACS(SW)

can't i have any fun?
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and look Ricks not even mad...
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