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Bill O'Reilly's Memo
Sylance Offline
#1 Posted:
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What's your thoughts on the below memo? Mine... I wish we'd hear more about this kind of stuff but I guess it's to fun and profitable to tear down your own country.

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Hating America. That is the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo." According to a new poll, 40 percent of Canadian teenagers think America is an evil country. Among French-Canadian teens, the number jumps to 64 percent. Those numbers can be laid right on the doorstep of the Canadian media and government

As you may know, the FOX News Channel is not allowed in Canada, but CNN is. Fair and balanced? You decide.

The USA takes a relentless pounding from many Canadian news organizations and from the liberal government. So, what can we expect from the kids? They're not getting a full picture. And neither is most of the world.

Increasingly, the bully America is being portrayed as the devil. And the far left in this country is gleefully piling on. Guys like Michael Moore are running around the world telling everybody what a bad place America is. Moore and his enablers should be very proud of themselves

For the benefit of the Canadian kids, let's take a look at the record:


•The foreign and defense policies of Ronald Reagan resulted in the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the freeing of approximately 122 million people in Eastern Europe.

• The state of Israel would cease to exist if not for American protection, and about 5.5 million Jews would be in grave danger.

• Nearly 23 million Taiwanese would be denied freedom if not for American protection. More than 48 million South Koreans would be living under a dictatorship if not for American protection. USA action led to the removal of the Serbian dictator Milosevic, who was responsible for the murders of hundreds of thousands of people in the Balkans.

• The USA and Britain removed the Iraqi dictator Hussein, who was responsible for the murders of hundreds of thousands of people in the Middle East. And we have also removed the terrorist Taliban government in Afghanistan.

• America is sending $15 billion to Africa to help victims of AIDS. We were unable to find out how much France contributes, if anything. To be fair, Canada sends $270 million, which is substantial.

• American action in Central America, Grenada, and Haiti has kept millions of people out of totalitarian regimes. Of course, all of this has cost every American taxpayer big. And thousands of American servicepeople have lost their lives protecting people overseas.

It is insulting and dishonest for Americans and Canadians and Europeans to condemn this country because they don't like certain policies. Dissent is good. Slander is unacceptable.

The truth is that the USA has freed more human beings in 230 years than the rest of the world combined. France has freed almost no one. Ditto Canada.

So, pardon me as I object to the Michael Moores of the world — and that man is too cowardly to come in here, all right? Pardon me as I object to the anti-American foreign press and bums like Chirac in France and Chretien in Canada.

America has a provable history of freeing oppressed people all over the world in fighting evil dictators. Canada should be ashamed that so many of its young people are flat out ignorant. And Americans should wise up and realize we are living in a changing world. Old friends are not necessarily true friends.

And that's "The Memo."
johnfs Offline
#2 Posted:
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Let's bomb um.
00camper Offline
#3 Posted:
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I say we admit 'em as states. That would teach 'em a lesson...
THL Offline
#4 Posted:
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I will urinate on the LaBatt's bear if ever I meet him!
Sonny_LSU Offline
#5 Posted:
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ok.....am I to understand that anything related to national defense and foreign policy is sole intellectual property of the conservatives in this country, thus everyone else is against them and the United States? Guess what? When we are viewed as evil, that means ALL of us are. However, to the victor comes the spoils......everyone loves success, but they hate successful people. Don't take jealousy and spin it into some anti-left argument.

BTW, Bill O'Reilly is a pompous bag of hot air. For you guys who are not college educated, you should here him get on his condescending educated soap box about how smart he is. Pick your front men carefully.
Sylance Offline
#6 Posted:
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Sonny_LSU,

Wow, that was a pretty angry statement. I guess I should have stayed away a bit longer. So tired...
ferd6 Offline
#7 Posted:
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and for those of you who are college educated . . you will note the incorrect usage of the word 'here' rather than the correct word 'hear' in that last sentence . . . i know, i know, nitpicking . . could not resist just having a bit of fun with you . .
Nabaclish Offline
#8 Posted:
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I'm of Canadian birth. I was born and raised in Canada for most of my life.

Canada struggles to keep it's own identity in spite of itself. Yes, Canadians are pretty much like Americans-From-An-Alternate-Dimension. But there are still differences that we are proud of. The Canadian government is set up in a British-style, with a House of Commons and a Senate. The Federal government is powerful, and the provincial government acts as advisors; in the United States, there is much more emphasis on States' rights, because of the way the United States was created as a country through the Revolutionary War.

There are a lot of American influences on Canadians. Most of southern Ontario get television stations from the USA. The Ontario Weather Station gives a North American wide weather report, not just a Canadian one. So, in the dead of winter everyone can see just how warm it is in Florida. People in Ontario get TV Stations from Buffalo and Rochester, the closest big American cities right across the lake.

However, the Canadian media, in its quest to keep our identity, has regulations on how much of a percentage must be Canadian content. I saw this as a teenager when Much Music (the Canadian version of MTV, which plays way more music and less non-music programs) took Ren and Stimpy off the air. They couldn't air both Ren & Stimpy and Beavis & Butthead because they had to play 80% music content in order to be called a music station. And, of that 80% of music, they noted, 51% must be Canadian bands.

Here's an article dealing with the whole Fox News in Canada thing:
http://www.terminalcity.ca/LotusLand/Vancouver+Scrum/Fox+News+In+Canada.htm

Yours,
Sheila.
00camper Offline
#9 Posted:
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There should also be a comma between condescending and educated in the last sentence of Sonny_LSU's response.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#10 Posted:
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Sonny_LSU

"BTW, Bill O'Reilly is a pompous bag of hot air"

and a bully. "i'll give you the last word" BS

i don't think a college education is required to know that, anyone with street smarts can see through his nonsense.
Gene363 Offline
#11 Posted:
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College boy

I'm not a fan of Bill O’Reilly; however which point didn't you agree with?

BTW, Flesh-Kincaid reading level 3.1
JonR Offline
#12 Posted:
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Da i wisheded i be is as smort as sony and but lsu would"t, xcept, me, cause i has poor hereing an an i spel to gooder thin mos of dere gaduits.

jONr
eleltea Offline
#13 Posted:
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I like Bill O'Reilly. He is surprisingly open minded on many issues and usually gives non-pompous guests who disagree with him the last word, provided they don't bloviate. He likes being the only bloviator on the show.
mattmelcher Offline
#14 Posted:
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Times have changed,
Our kids are getting worse,
They won't obey thier parents,
They just want to fart and curse,
Should we blame the government,
Or blame society,
Or should we blame the images on TV?
NO!
BLAME CANADA! BLAME CANADA!

South Park the Movie...
Charlie Offline
#15 Posted:
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Sorry, Sonny but you get more and more left everyday! Beware what you wish for, as it will be a lot worse under a John-John Administration!
As far as to your misuse of hear...."Ah guess all of us Southerners are fixin to rewrite the R's...reading, riting and rithmatic" LMAO.

Your Conservative pal,
Charlie
Charlie Offline
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Sorry, Sonny but you get more and more left everyday! Beware what you wish for, as it will be a lot worse under a John-John Administration!
As far as to your misuse of hear...."Ah guess all of us Southerners are fixin to rewrite the R's...reading, riting and rithmatic" LMAO.

Your Conservative pal,
Charlie
Charlie Offline
#17 Posted:
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Sorry, Sonny but you get more and more left everyday! Beware what you wish for, as it will be a lot worse under a John-John Administration!
As far as to your misuse of hear...."Ah guess all of us Southerners are fixin to rewrite the R's...reading, riting and rithmatic" LMAO.

Your Conservative pal,
Charlie
Charlie Offline
#18 Posted:
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Oh my God, new lap top and "ah jest ain't ust to it"! Sorry guys and gals!

Charlie
JonR Offline
#19 Posted:
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Yo Charlie:

HAT-TRICK, eh !

JonR
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#20 Posted:
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bloviate?
SteveS Offline
#21 Posted:
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Author: RICKAMAVEN Date: 07/13/2004 09:19 AM bloviate?
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blo·vi·ate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (blv-t)
intr.v. Slang blo·vi·at·ed, blo·vi·at·ing, blo·vi·ates
To discourse at length in a pompous or boastful manner:
Sonny_LSU Offline
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JonR, pay attention. I was not asserting myself as more intelligent, rather trying to get those who are non-college educated but intelligent people to see how Bill O'Reilly sees himself in relation to the rest of the population that does not have a college degree.

When you post something like that without thinking about it first, you do come across as stupid.
Sonny_LSU Offline
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Gene, I don't agree with him correlating foreign anti-American sentiments with assumed agendas of the Leftist citizens of the US.

Being liberal, neo-liberal or Democrat does not mean one is jumping in bed with Canada, France, etc.

BTW, if the "College boy" comment is meant as a jab, I'll gladly accept being made fun of for being educated.
Charlie Offline
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Sometimes I wonder.......?! College educated, duh, me too, but does O'Reilly really feel that way? No, he is just for education as most should be, rather than "street education" and RAP music culture that "educates" to hate "whitey" and kill the Pooohlice while destroying our society!

Gee, wonder why most people are against that type of culture?

Charlie
Gene363 Offline
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Sony,

"Gene, I don't agree with him correlating foreign anti-American sentiments with assumed agendas of the Leftist citizens of the US."

That’s fine, IMO, the burr under O'Reilly's saddle is the tendency of vocal left leaning factions to always blame the US. Granted, not all liberal factions are to blame.

"Being liberal, neo-liberal or Democrat does not mean one is jumping in bed with Canada, France, etc.”

However, some do in effect just that. While that may not be their intent, more likely it's something they see as a tool to bash the current administration, nonetheless it hurts our country.

BTW, if the "College boy" comment is meant as a jab, I'll gladly accept being made fun of for being educated.

Not a thing wrong with education, it just doesn't always result in or end with a graduation ceremony. Combine it with common sense, curiosity and some experience and have something precious.
Charlie Offline
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The most fair, honest and middle of the road pundits on televison are Chris Matthews (MSNBC) and Bill O'Reilly (Fox News Network)! Neither are drum beaters for either side of the aisle, while Matthews leans to the Democrats, O'Reilly leans to the Republicans, but both are straight shooters and both can be very, very abrassive and this is the rub that most people who do not like O'Reilly (or Matthews) drum about! There is the coat it with sugar and easy interview tactics of Larry King, and they are old and boring! There is the far left leanings of Bill Moyers and he is just too liberal, but for honest appraisal of the facts I will take O'Reilly! Not Limbaugh, not Michael Moore or Stewart Smalley but O'Reilly is the very best!

Now prepare to watch my 6 for the leftist attacks!

Charlie
dbguru Offline
#27 Posted:
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Charlie
You're obviously a Bill O'Reilly fan and although the guy makes me sick to my stomach... I say good for you I'm glad you enjoy him. Simple premises, simple conclusions, easy to digest. Quite frankly, the memo is thought provoking but IMHO lack's perspective.

Why does O'Reilly makes me sick. He makes a lot of assertions that are not totally factual. By that I mean he may present the truth, but not the whole truth and nothing but the truth. His show is so very edited and manipulated to present a very specifically colored version of the truth. So many of his guests have complained of statements made and questions posed that never appeared on the show.

Chris Matthews is a genuine talent. His rapid fire style is honest and almost too fast to be editable.
He's my wife's favorite. Right now my favorite TV pundit is Tim Russert. DB
Charlie Offline
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I enjoy Tim Russert as well, he is a really nice person who is respectful of those he interviews but also gets to the point and can make some of his guests uneasy if they are hiding something! Take a peek at his new book about his father, it is outstanding!

Yes I like O'Reilly and think that he is the very best and I know that he will get into an issue that will grate on some, but he does go after the wrong doers and usually gets them!

I also enjoy the Hannaity and Colmes show......Colmes is my favorite liberal (he sees issues with more than just a pure left agenda)! Sean Hannaity can get a (in fact he does) little too much for me!

Charlie
eleltea Offline
#29 Posted:
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Charlie has represented my side of this discussion better than I can. Perfect agreement on both O'Reilly and Matthews. Colmes too.

Even when I was young and liberal I loved to listen to William F. Buckley, Jr., and when I became old and somewhat conservative I still greatly admired the late J. Patrick Moynahan. People who don't respect thoughtful people on the other side of the issues are going through life like Limbaugh says he works ---with half their brain tied behind their back.
JonR Offline
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Yo Sonny_LSU:

"BTW, Bill O'Reilly is a pompous bag of hot air. For you guys who are not college educated, you should here him get on his condescending educated soap box about how smart he is. Pick your front men carefully."

and then you wrote...

"JonR, pay attention. I was not asserting myself as more intelligent, rather trying to get those who are non-college educated but intelligent people to see how Bill O'Reilly sees himself in relation to the rest of the population that does not have a college degree.

When you post something like that without thinking about it first, you do come across as stupid."

First you write, "for you guys who are not college educated" then when you reply to me you write, "non-college educated but INTELLIGENT people".

I suggest you read your last sentence in your reply to me, and I agree you did come off looking not only stupid but much like a pompous blowhard.

JonR
smelly4tay Offline
#31 Posted:
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ba ba bum bada.......buuuuuum

BLAME CANADA, BLAME CANADA!!!!!!!!
Charlie Offline
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After all Canada gave us the esteemed Michael Moore!

C
SteveS Offline
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Canada did ???

I thought it was a fat ugly dog who left that deposit on our lawn ...

Wow, our neighbor to the north is pawning off their dog rockets on us, eh?
Sylance Offline
#34 Posted:
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Been away for a bit, but I'll weigh into this now…

Funny that some people basically ignored the moral message here and only saw this as a purely liberal vs. conservative argument, and flexed their intelligence by attacking the messenger. Does it matter who wrote it, or does the content matter? The point I got from this memo is America doesn’t get a fair shake in the media and therefore our image is damaged across the world. The point I took away from this is descent is good, but slander is bad. When the free speaking world ‘slanders’ America, they’re actually murdering American military and its innocent citizens. Again, I’m not saying reporting the truth is bad, that’s the beauty of free speech; it helps insure an honest government. I’m talking slander here.

But hey, if we want to get on the liberal vs. conservative argument again I’ll quote a great leader… “Bring it on.”
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