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usahog Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 9:25 AM EST
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
I've been debating with an Idiot for the past couple days...
I have not seen one thing positive in his posts... no requested links to better news??

this leaves me baffled and I confess...

I allowed myself to be lowered to a lesser standard and the old addage bit me in the Arse...

(Never Argue with and Idiot.. they will lower you to their level and beat you with experience)

Now I will take the Rick Stance and be Passive LOL

Hog
Danny Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 9:39 AM EST
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more baseless drivel
Danny Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 9:39 AM EST
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you don't debate, you slander
usahog Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 9:54 AM EST
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the drivil and baseless debating has been by your hand Dan... you come on here and want this or want that.. but not yet once have you produced anything of good nature.. and when given good links to consider you top it off with a devious remark and move on with your actions knowing full well your here for one reason.. create turmoil in the ranks... that is the only agenda of the far left...

read the link I posted about the Cavett show
this took place in 1971..

Hell Danny Boy read his Senate Votes through the years and then listen to his campaign speeches... you'll hear the lies first hand.. why ask me to dig them up and post them when in Fact you haven't listend to anything myself or anyone else has said???

Press On... or as Charlie pointed out MoveOn.

Hog
Danny Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 10:01 AM EST
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you see what you want. I asked you for that info and you can only deliver the opinions of other Kerry haters. No facts, no direct lies. In your frustration, you accuse me of this. I have repeatedly asked you for facts. Put up and I'll shut up.
usahog Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 10:06 AM EST
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Boy's I'm talkin to a deaf Mute here I tell ya's!!! LOL

Danny, Professor, all you will do is downtrod whatever posted.. as this original post/thread started out it will end the same...

Hog
usahog Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 10:07 AM EST
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Son, my panties aren't the one's in a bunch... ;0)~~~

Hog
Danny Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 1:20 PM EST
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it appears otherwise
bloody spaniard Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 1:54 PM EST
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Shades of me & 65gtoman--except with us it was personal not political.

Seems like years ago, now. Remember that Hog? You helped bring down my blood pressure to 289! LOL!

blood
JonR Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 1:56 PM EST
Joined: 02-19-2002
Posts: 9,740
Yo Hog:

We can't have a debate with danny, he doesn't want to debate, he wants to aggravate. I wrote him off as a dbguru wannabe. LOL

JonR
Danny Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 2:45 PM EST
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isn't it possible for you guys to list the lies, deceptions and impartially reported facts without resorting to personal attacks? And you guys are the best of the bunch?
usahog Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 2:57 PM EST
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Danny Boy.. what you refused to read is posted by one other member who as he say's was undecided .... all you have to do is clear your head and take in what you read break it down and then understand it ;0)~~~

http://www.cigarbid.com/...geDisplay=0000000024724

Hog
Danny Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 3:57 PM EST
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I read it. Don't you know the difference between opinions and facts? Do you have a library near your home? I'm sure they have a dictionary.
Charlie Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 4:24 PM EST
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Would other Kerry haters be like the moveon.org crew that constantly bashes our President? I guess they do not count as being biased in your thin mind!

Charlie
Danny Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 4:33 PM EST
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Charlie Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 4:37 PM EST
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Whoops, something happened to my post above. What I was saying that Liberals would love to quote and post cut and paste from Moveon.org and call it middle of the road, but then when something from an unbiased site is used, they scream foul! It is all in the make up of the blind faith that they put in JfK and his converted views to the moderate middle ground, which will last for about two weeks and then the infamous flip flop will apply.

Charlie
Danny Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 4:56 PM EST
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example please. I don't subscribe to any liberally slanted media, nor right wing either. But I know bias when I see/hear it.
adroomi Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 5:36 PM EST
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example please. I don't subscribe to any liberally slanted media, nor right wing either. But I know bias when I see/hear it.

How do you know bias when you don't ever read or listen to it. You assume that nothing you read or hear (non-liberally slanted media) is non-biased I presume? Even a 3 page term paper usually has to have at least 10 references in the Bibliography (3 pages of Bibliography is normal for Doctoral level work of the same length)....this shows that the author is "well-read" and did his/her research.

The wisest of men read not what pleases their mind, but whatever is available...this builds the mind. One can only make wise decisions and build meaningful ideas about any subject when they are well versed on both sides of the story, and look at them without prejudice, for information.

By not "subscribing (or at least opening your mind to a bit of it)" to "liberally slanted media" you are only allowing yourself to build every decision you ever have made or ever will make based upon the information given from "one side." This is pure and simple followership and conformity.

The real quest for truth is in listening to both sides of the story, and weighing their value for correct theory and factual basis. This is what finally allows us as children to realize that Santa Clause is a myth, rather than growing up believing what our parents tell us.

To win a war, one must read the texts of the opposing Generals. Read them without prejudice, then build your own thoughts that will enable you to overpower theirs.

By the way, I vote for the best candidate, I claim no party. I believe in God (whoever she is), but read the writings of those that believe in other Gods. To quote that horrible television show...."The truth is out there!" Crawl out of your self imposed shell, and go look for it. Maybe you are right after all.....just make sure you really are.
Danny Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 6:37 PM EST
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"By the way, I vote for the best candidate"

me too btw. I've lived long enough to know when I'm being schmoozed however, so I don't necessarily need a footnote or a bibliography to wade through bullsh*t. On the other hand, substantiated facts are always welcome.
usahog Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 6:40 PM EST
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Dan, it's just nice to know I've been under your skin all day and evening... now give the mrs. a nice hug for me when you head off to lala land and one more thing.. be thinking of me.. SmooooocHs!!!!!!!!!!!

Hog
Danny Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 6:44 PM EST
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ditto
bassdude Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 6:48 PM EST
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adroomi that was a good post.

adroomi Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Jul 31 2004, 7:27 PM EST
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...thanks Bass.

Danny..."I've lived long enough to know when I'm being schmoozed however, so I don't necessarily need a footnote or a bibliography to wade through bullsh*t. On the other hand, substantiated facts are always welcome"....

How can you have a "substantiated fact" without a footnote or Bibliography? A "fact" is something that not just one person believes, but rather a multitude of different folks with different views and research methods agree upon to be real.

With age comes a plethora of wisdom...whether we want it or not. I too have lived long enough, however, every day I learn just how little I actually know about anything. That's why I continue to seek truth, wisdom, and evidence.

When I was 7 I thought my father was the smartest man on Earth. When I was 17, I thought he was the stupidest man alive. Now, pushing 37, I realize how truly wise he really is. Amazing, how could he be so stupid for so many years during my adolescence and young adulthood. Or is it that I see him in a different light now?

A person who claims to be able to see truth based upon their own personal experience and intelligence is regarding all the others that are just as intelligent as himself (or more so), as ignorant. Trust nothing you hear, half of what you see, and question everything. Always realize, that there are others smarter than you out there, and use their experience along with yours to find answers. Always seek answers, and always keep your mind open!

The only answers one will find by claiming to use their own experience and smarts will surely be biased, foolish, half-witted, and most likely wrong.


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