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ajeroth Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Jul 19 2004, 4:00 AM EST
Joined: 07-17-2003
Posts: 1,000
Again this is just an email I recieved... Just here for you to look at. I'm not going to debate its accuarcy. It is an email so anybody could have written it.



John Kerry's Wife
Do you find it strange that Kerry's wife is never with
him? Do you find it strange that you never hear any thing about her?
This may be why!
As time goes on, we're just getting to know the
possible future First Lady of the United States of America, and it is quite interesting.
You'll be hearing even more about Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of Democratic front-runner.
She has quite a track record, especially when it comes to the causes she donates to. One of her favorite charities is the Tides Foundation. What is that, you ask? This foundation sends hundreds of millions of dollars to groups that protested the invasion of Iraq; that demands open U.S. borders; and provides legal defense for suspected terrorists. Among other groups supported by Kerry's wife:
Ramsey Clark's International Action Center. This is the same Ramsey Clark that offered to defend Saddam Hussein.
Another group seeks to ease restrictions on
immigration from terrorist nations.
Another group has links to the terrorist group Hamas.
And on and on.
American jobs are OUTSOURCED by John F.
Kerry and his wife Teresa Heinz-Kerry!
We need to ask:
Why not manufacture in America and ship finished
products overseas? How many American workers are in these Heinz overseas factories?

HEINZ WATTIE'S AUSTRALASIA - Melbourne, Victoria,
Australia
HEINZ SINGAPORE PTE. LTD. - Republic of Singapore
HEINZ WATTIE'S LIMITED - Auckland, New Zealand
HEINZ JAPAN LTD - Tokyo, Japan
HEINZ-UFE LTD. - Guangzhou, People's Republic of China
HEINZ COSCO - Qingdao, People's Republic of China
HEINZ KOREA LTD. - Inchon, South Korea
HEINZ WIN CHANCE LTD. - Bangkok, Thailand
HEINZ INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED - Mumbai, India
PT HEINZ ABC INDONESIA - Jakarta, Indonesia
PT HEINZ SUPRAMA - Surabaya, Indonesia
HEINZ UFC PHILIPPINES - Manila, the Philippines
HEINZ HONG KONG LIMITED - Wanchai, Hong Kong
H. J. HEINZ (Botswana) (Proprietary) LTD.
- Gaborone, Botswana
KGALAGADI SOAP INDUSTRIES (Pty) LTD. - Gaborone,
Botswana
REFINED OIL PRODUCTS (Pty) LTD. - Gaborone, Botswana
OLIVINE INDUSTRIES (Private) LIMITED - Harare,
Zimbabwe
CHEGUTU CANNERS (Pvt) LTD. - Chegutu, Zimbabwe
HEINZ SOUTH AFRICA (PTY) LTD. - Johannesburg, South
Africa
HEINZ WELLINGTON'S (PTY) LTD. - Wellington, South
Africa
HEINZ EUROPE - Hayes, Middlesex, England
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Hayes Park, Hayes,
Middlesex, England
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Rovereto, Italy
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY LIMITED - Telford, England
JOHN WEST FOODS LIMITED - Liverpool, England
H. J. HEINZ FROZEN & CHILLED FOODS LIMITED
- Hayes, Middlesex, England
H. J. HEINZ COMPANY (IRELAND) LIMITED - Dublin,
Ireland
H.J. HEINZ COMPANY OF CANADA LTD - North York,
Ontario, Canada
OMSTEAD FOODS LIMITED - Wheatley, Ontario, Canada
ALIMENTOS HEINZ C.A. - Caracas, Venezuela
DISTRIBUIDORA BANQUETE, S.A. - San Josi, Costa Rica
HEINZ ITALIA S.r.l. - Milan, Italy
FATTORIA SCALDASOLE, S.p.a. - Monguzzo, Italy
COPAIS FOOD AND BEVERAGE COMPANY, S.A. - Athens,
Greece
HEINZ POLSKA Sp. Z.O.O. - Warsaw, Poland
PUDLISZKI S.A. - Pudliszki, Poland
WODZISLAW, S.A. - Wodzislaw, Poland
ETS. PAULET S.A. - Douarnenez, France
H. J. HEINZ FROZEN S.A.R.L. - Paris, France
HEINZ IBERICA S.A. - Madrid, Spain
IDAL (Industrias de Alimentacc, Lda.) - Lisbon,
Portugal
MIEDZYCHOD S.A. - Miedzychod, Poland
HEINZ C.I.S. - Moscow, Russia
HEINZ GEORGIEVSK - Georgievsk, Russia
CAIRO FOOD INDUSTRIES SAE - Cairo, Egypt
HEINZ REMEDIA LIMITED - Tel Aviv, Israel
STAR-KIST FOOD DB'OR LIMITED - Haifa, Israel
H. J. HEINZ GMBH - Dm2 m3%ldorf, Germany
SONNEN BASSERMANN - Seesen, Germany
KONINKLIJKE DE RUIJTER BV - The Netherlands
HAK BV - The Netherlands
FOODMARK - The Netherlands
HONIG MERKARTIKELEN BV - The Netherlands
DRUKKERIJ DE GROENBOER - The Netherlands
H. J. HEINZ B.V . - Elst, The Netherlands
H. J. HEINZ BELGIUM S.A. - Brussels, Belgium
SERV-A-PORTION - Turnhout, Belgium
Arimpex Industrie Alimentari S.R.L. - Rovereto, Italy
Comexo S.A. - Chateaurenard, France
HEINZ EUROPE - UK and IRELAND - Factories:
Chorley, Fakenham, Grimsby,
Kendal, Kitt Green, Leaminton, Luton, Okehampton,
Telford, Westwick

Think of the conflict of interest a President would
have who's wife owns business interests in all of these countries.... I don't think John Kerry's Vietnam service is going to make people look the other way on this stuff.
EI Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Jul 19 2004, 5:18 AM EST
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This is why he said he would go to each of the foreign leaders and appolgize for our involement in iraq,
Hey its just good business
Charlie Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Jul 19 2004, 12:22 PM EST
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Af foul and evil person and very, very rich!

C
Herr Rabbit Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Jul 19 2004, 12:34 PM EST
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Remember, they have theirs and they are all about the little guy. Who DO they play golf with? ROFLMA
bloody spaniard Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Jul 19 2004, 4:54 PM EST
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If it's true, it is very disturbing.
Charlie Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Jul 19 2004, 5:19 PM EST
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Blood

Bet ya it is more true than false! And yes it is very disturbing indeed! Pray Kerry doesn't win!

Charlie
bassdude Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Jul 19 2004, 7:29 PM EST
Joined: 01-13-2004
Posts: 8,871
very little about Tides

Among the most unbelievable “projects” of the Tides Center is something called the Institute for Global Communications (www.igc.org). IGC is a clearinghouse for Leftist propagandists of all stripes, including living-wage advocates, anti-war protesters, slave-reparations hucksters, and a wide variety of extreme environmentalists. In February 2002 Orange County Register columnist Steven Greenhut called it “a network of the loony left” that “has to be seen to be believed… One alert posted in an IGC member conference calls for financial support for the Earth Liberation Front… Another message warns readers against cooperating with the FBI.”

The Chronicle of Philanthropy has documented this sort of America-bashing before. In a November 15, 2001 story, the Chronicle reported that the Tides Center had given the Independent Media Center (IMC) $376,000 -- ironically, from its “9/11 fund.” IMC is a notorious bastion of far left, radical viewpoints, and also serves as an organizing outpost for all sorts of large-scale protest activity. In particular, the IMC served as a “virtual” staging ground prior to the April 20, 2002 anti-war protests in Washington, DC. Visitors to the IMC web site can read the rantings of “black bloc” anarchists, violent animal-rights criminals, and an assortment of anti-American advocates, all brought to you by the Tides Center and its tax exemption.

In order to keep the gravy train running, Tides has demonstrated remarkable ingenuity in coming up with unusual funding streams in addition to its mainstays in traditional philanthropy. Consider the following:




When Ben & Jerry’s announced that profits from its popular “Rainforest Crunch” ice cream flavor were earmarked for save-the-earth charities, the mass media swooned. What they didn’t tell you was that 20% of the cut went directly to the Tides Foundation.

In 1999 the Tides Foundation created “eGrants.org,” the first internet-only foundation funding source. Web-savvy leftists can privately give any amount they like to Tides, and earmark it for specific projects. And it’s all tax-deductible.

Back in 1985, Drummond Pike and two colleagues started the Working Assets Funding Service, a for-profit company whose family of credit-card, mutual fund, and long-distance telephone services have grown into a $130 million business. Working Assets lures consumers (over 400,000 so far) with promises of “socially responsible” commerce. A two-percent cut of the profits go to activist causes -- funneled, of course, through the Tides Foundation.

http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/225
Cavallo Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 2:15 AM EST
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and now, ladies and gentlemen, some facts:

http://www.tidesfoundation.org/press_rel_04.cfm

Tides Foundation and Tides Center Statement Regarding Recent Scrutiny over Heinz Endowments

Date: March 11, 2004

Tides Foundation and Tides Center have come under attack in several opinion pieces recently appearing in media such as the The New York Post, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Times, among others. The articles make false allegations relating specifically to Tides and the funding it receives from The Heinz Endowments, as well as Tides' support of a group called "September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows." The allegations are without merit, consisting entirely of errors and innuendo.

Here are the facts: The Heinz Endowments have granted Tides Foundation $230,000 dispensed between 1994 and 1998. These grants were used solely to support a pollution prevention initiative and other environmentally friendly practices by industries in Western Pennsylvania. Tides Center, an independent organization providing administrative and financial services to hundreds of projects across the country, has received additional support from The Heinz Endowments specifically to support projects in Pennsylvania. The vast majority of the projects funded through these endowments were related to either environmental protection or youth education. No Heinz- related money has gone to fund September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows. Teresa Heinz Kerry, the wife of Senator John Kerry, chairs The Howard Heinz Endowment and sits on Vira I. Heinz Endowment's board.

For the record, the Tides family of organizations is proud to provide support and services to Peaceful Tomorrows - a grassroots organization whose activities revolve around nonviolence and peaceful resolutions - through Tides Foundation, Tides Center, and Groundspring.org, an organization that provides training and web-based services for online fundraising. Tides Foundation has made four grants in 2002 and 2003 for a combined total of $34,665 to Peaceful Tomorrows. Peaceful Tomorrows has raised $19,097 through Groundspring.org since August, 2002.

Tides Foundation employs donor advised funds, the same financial vehicle administered in precisely the same way as the Fidelity Charitable Gift Fund and similar programs operated by Schwab, Vanguard, and more than 600 community foundations across the country. Tides works under the rigors of fund accounting, restricted grants, and annual audits, ensuring that all monies released by Tides are properly distributed and accounted for. Tides Center projects each raise funds for their individual program activities, with these funds being separately accounted for and administered. These funds are limited for the specific purposes for which they were given.

At Tides, our goal is a society based on fairness, equally shared economic opportunities, engaged and active citizens and environmental sustainability. In 2002 and 2003, Tides Foundation made more than 6,000 separate grants to nonprofit organizations totaling more than $100 million and Tides Center provides over 250 emerging projects with support services. Our work speaks for itself in the range of program activities that supports a diverse array of organizations working on projects from human rights to disaster relief and youth education.

Contact: Christopher J. Herrera
Tides Foundation
P: 415-561-6355
[email protected]
Homebrew Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 4:42 AM EST
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Thanks Tony (A.K.A. Cavallo)
For putting a little balence in this thread.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. Part of the reason I will not vote for GWB (A.K.A Shrub) is the vast propaganda, and lies spewed by his supporters. If you don't do the research, it is easy to believe most of the garbage.
snowwolf777 Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 6:39 AM EST
Joined: 06-03-2000
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Yeah, thank God only the Republicans do that.

Anyone who can type can put anything out on the internet and call it facts. Anyone who bases his/her decision on garbage that's typed in and posted gets what he/she deserves. There is information out there beyond Google search.

If you're not going to vote for someone because his/her base includes people who manufacture lies to strengthen their fanatical support, then you will never vote for anyone again.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 7:38 AM EST
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i was under the impression her husband was running for office.
Charlie Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 7:48 AM EST
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Yeah, Rick, I thought he was running as well, unless he has flip flopped and we do not know about it yet!

Dave (Homebrew), that was a very funny post you entered.....lies, etc. Have you heard of Michael Moore, George Soros, Al Franken to name just a few?

Both sides are quite good at propaganda! Heinz Foods has relocated most of their facilities (plants) off shore and this is the very thing that John "Blowhard" Kerry damns other corporations for doing.

Charlie
bassdude Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 9:22 AM EST
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The Tides is a very obscure corporation by design. Go look at their web site. They will do whatever a donor asks and it is very difficult to get real info.
EI Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 9:43 AM EST
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Rick Said "i was under the impression her husband was running for office. "

I would think you would be the first to say that Nancy had a great influence on Ronnie \But then you wouldn't see anything wrong with that would you?
snowwolf777 Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 10:13 AM EST
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"You get two for the price of one!" Remember that Bill-Hill quote? To believe that Mrs. President doesn't have any input or effect on what her husband thinks/does is an exit from reality.
La10870 Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 11:03 AM EST
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Tony, thanks for the research, however it would be very informative to get a listing of the 6000 grants to non-profits totaling $100. There are lots of left AND right wing organizations that call themselves non-profits that support a lots of very questionable causes. When looking into Mrs. Kerry's past one must also recall how she got the name Heintz.....married to a Republican politician. Let's look at all the facts when researching an individual and Mrs. Kerry certainly has a colorful and interesting history to look into.
La10870 Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 11:04 AM EST
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Make that $100 million.....
Cavallo Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 1:01 PM EST
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bassdude writes: "They will do whatever a donor asks and it is very difficult to get real info."

just like any other financial house like Fidelity and the other much, much larger places. my ex-gf worked for Wellington Mgmnt, so obscure that they don't even advertise, but one of the top investment management corporations in the USA and the world. you won't get a peep out of them on whose money they manage and where it gets donated or invested.

in short, what la said! lol

the thing about heinz products having factories all over the world is that they are making PRODUCTS for those local areas. it's not like they're making ketchup in japan for americans to consume -- they're making LOCAL SPECIALTIES for LOCAL folks; they're making fish sauce (or whatever) for the japanese IN japan. hmmm... sounds like a smart business practice to me.

anyone care to tell me, with all this vast anti-mrs. kerry knowledge, to tell me how many Americans hold jobs that are related to these foreign plants making foreign products for and in foreign countries -- or wait... do you even know? or is it just another assumption based on yet another smack-talking website?

i'll take the "taking away american jobs" allegation seriously when i see proof that the heinz corporation is doing so. seems to me like they're providing plenty of american jobs -- in the USA -and- elsewhere.
bassdude Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 5:09 PM EST
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Cavallo, I think you need to look into tides a little more.

In practice, “Tides” behaves less like a philanthropy than a money-laundering enterprise (apologies to Procter & Gamble), taking money from other foundations and spending it as the donor requires. Called donor-advised giving, this pass-through funding vehicle provides public-relations insulation for the money’s original donors. By using Tides to funnel its capital, a large public charity can indirectly fund a project with which it would prefer not to be directly identified in public. Drummond Pike has reinforced this view, telling The Chronicle of Philanthropy: “Anonymity is very important to most of the people we work with.”

Teresa Heinz Kerry has financed the secretive Tides Foundation to the tune of more than $4 million over the years. The Tides Foundation, a “charity” established in 1976 by antiwar leftist activist Drummond Pike, distributes millions of dollars in grants every year to political organizations advocating far-Left causes. The Tides Foundation and its closely allied Tides Center, which was spun off from the Foundation in 1996 but run by Drummond Pike, distributed nearly $66 million in grants in 2002 alone. In all, Tides has distributed more than $300 million for the Left. These funds went to rabid antiwar demonstrators, anti-trade demonstrators, domestic Islamist organizations, pro-terrorists legal groups, environmentalists, abortion partisans, extremist homosexual activists and open borders advocates.


cigarsmokin Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Jul 20 2004, 5:58 PM EST
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Anyone know where I can get a list of the 6,000 foundations that this place has given donations to?

cigarsmokin
GB

RICKAMAVEN Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Jul 21 2004, 2:25 AM EST
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bassdude

define "extremist homosexual activists"
pabloescabar Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Aug 29 2004, 11:05 PM EST
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say what!
grond Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Aug 30 2004, 4:21 AM EST
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Tony and Dave,

I'm surprised that you would post the self serving "general" statement of the head of the organization and give it any more credence than the initial post. Both are very self serving. I find the research done by both conservative AND liberal investigators to be more persuasive and these point to this organization being a shill for extremely liberal causes.

Teresa Heinz Kerry's involvement in so many national and international causes make it imperative (that should Kerry win) that she set up a blind trust and completely distance herself from any management of said trusts. Otherwise, the conflicts of interest are too mind boggling to imagine.

Cheers,

grond
Herr Rabbit Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Aug 30 2004, 9:11 AM EST
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She who hands out the allowance, makes the rules. Its the downside of marrying for money, always under the thumb or the cushy life ends.
CWFoster Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Aug 30 2004, 11:08 AM EST
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Grond, the rule of Ethics only apply to the Republicans! Case in point, Two workers for the Bush campaign have been linked to the Swift Vets for Truth, and both have tendered their resignations, but the Democrats merely point out that this proves the collusion between Bush, and the pro-right 527's. ONE of the two was an attourney who advised the Bush campaign, and ALSO advised the Swift Vets.
As people with ties arec found, they are culled out, Bush has called for the end of ALL the negative 527 backed ads.

There is an attouney however, who advises the KERRY campaign, who ALSO advises the people at moveon.org. Curiously enough, he beleives there is no conflict, and refuses to step down from EITHER position, and John Kerry says the moveon.org ads are not as vile and reprehesible as the Swift Vets ads, refusing to call for an end to any but the Swift Vets ads.


Who's talking outta both sides of his face?
uncleb Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Aug 30 2004, 11:15 AM EST
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"Who's talking outta both sides of his face?"

Answer- Kerry AND Bush, that's who.
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