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thepapa Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 02-29-2000
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I recently came across a half dozen cigars that I somehow forgot to place lovingly in a humidor. They are quite crispy now, is there any hope for these unfortunate orphans. Is there any Frankenstein like procedure I need to follow to resurect them? or should I just toss them into a humidore and forget about them again for a few months?
delarob Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2001
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From what I understand, once the oils are dried up, there ain't much can be done. What where they, and how long were they unprotected?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
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thepapa throw them in the humidor and foret about hem for a year. stir them around so all the humidity doesen't settle at the bottom. they may improve. if not at least you will have a year of stirring. seriously, i have read of a technique done by pros, where they place the cigars in a controlled enviornment at a lower humidity and increase the humidity gradually over an extended period of time. they claim that cigars 50 years old have been brought back from the dead. claim is the optimum word.
mhollowa Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 10-03-2001
Posts: 517
I agree...don't toss them. I bought a handful from a premium cigar closeout at the local Kroger that thought you could sell $12 next to generic cigarettes. It took them a couple of years to discover otherwise. By that time even at $2 a piece I was taking a chance on them. After several months in the humidor they smoked great. However, I bought a nice brand at a smiliar closeout at the local beer stop and it was terrible...it came from a glass case that got winter afternoon sun... Luckily the girl behind the counter already knew they were ruined and gave me my money back. But the one I keep for an emergency under the loose arm rest in the truck is another story.
BigTony Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 07-22-2001
Posts: 185
OK...I have been successful in bringing back some dried out 'gars once. I was gifted some smokes from a friend who knew nothing about proper storage as he is not a smoker. The cigars had obviously been sitting around in the box for quite some time as they were very dry. I read thet slowly bringing them to proper humidity might work... so I figured what the heck. I transfered them to an old cedar cigar box and un-cello'd them. I placed them in a home made tupperware style humidor w/ some extra cedar pieces and a small home made humidification device. Over a few weeks I started the humidity low at around 60-62% and tried to keep them that way for about a month (remember when using airtight humidors to open once a week for proper air exchange). After a month I raised the humidity to around 65% by adding a larger piece of foam (this process was difficult as I had to try and fail a number of times before I got the proper size to hold the humidity I wanted-- sometimes I'd have to take the humidity device out entirely for a few days). I left the cigars this way for months...... checking weekly on the temp and humidity. After about 6 months I figured they'd be OK to add to my main humidor which I have set for 68% humidity. I'll be honest some wrapper damage/ cracking did occur in a few mainly around the foot, but it wasn't all bad. I have smoked a few and they seem OK if not a bit bland almost flat--like the "oomph" was gone. I considered this a good experiment for myself. They were "free" so all I was wasting was some time and effort to try to bring them back to smokeability. The point I'm trying to make is that I think it can be done.... it worked for me and I am pleased with the outcome.

Good luck!
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#6 Posted:
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mhollowa: Do you by any chance buy your underwear at McDonald's ?
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#7 Posted:
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BigTony: Must have really irked you something fierce after you went through all of that and then have your wife just throw them out becuase she needed her salad bowls back .....
BigTony Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 07-22-2001
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funny you should mention that jimmy.......I once used a small tupperware container w/ lid to make a humidifier for one of my old coolerdors. At the time we had several in a kitchen drawer so I didn't think anything of it. Oh was I wrong.... my girl gave me the "what for" for "ruining" her good tupperware "sandwich container". Jeez.... women get real touchy when you invade their kitchen space!
JonR Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2002
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Big Tony have you ever tried utilizing electricity in your experiments I seem to remember it working for a doctor named Frankenstein, lol.
BigTony Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 07-22-2001
Posts: 185
...little tiny bolts on the cigars... Its alive....ALIVE!!!!!
thepapa Offline
#11 Posted:
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Posts: 62
Thanks for the suggestions, (except for the one about the one about buying underwear at Mc D's). Igor (pronounced I-gor) and I will try the sealed tupperware method. If that doesn't work, I do have some itty bitty bolts to screw into their itty bitty necks.
mhollowa Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 10-03-2001
Posts: 517
No, Jimmy. I get my underwear out of my Christmas stocking. I buy cigars wherever I find them.
Mr.Mean Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 05-16-2001
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Fraubruker!!!! Winnnneeeeeee!!!!
JonR Offline
#14 Posted:
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Wasn't Teri Garr "HOT" in that movie Young Frankenstein.
Mr.Mean Offline
#15 Posted:
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Amen to that!
Hansen Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 03-11-2000
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Correction, Ed. Frau Blucher! Wheeeee!!!! "Frau" is Mrs. in German. Ask Jack, he has access to all languagues.
bud451 Offline
#17 Posted:
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"Abby somebody..."
thepapa Offline
#18 Posted:
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thepapa Offline
#19 Posted:
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its..FRAUKENSTEEN!!!!
bud451 Offline
#20 Posted:
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"what hump?"
JonR Offline
#21 Posted:
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Abby-Normal
Charlie Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
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Gene Hackman was great in Young Frankenstein, with the soup and the cigars! And when the monster ran away, "We were going to have expresso"!!! Charlie
mhollowa Offline
#23 Posted:
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Claim: The horses in Young Frankenstein neigh every time Frau Blucher's name is spoken because "blucher" is the German word for "glue."

Status: False.
Example: [Eigner, 1999]

And did you know why the horses [in Young Frankenstein] whinny every time they hear the name of Frau Blucher, played by Cloris Leachman? Her name sounds like the German word for glue.

Origins: Young Frankenstein (1974) is Mel Brooks' inspired spoof of horror movies, in which Dr. Frankenstein's grandson, Dr. Friedrich von Frankenstein (Gene Wilder), inherits his grandfather's castle and begins his own attempts at creating a human being and infusing it with the spark of life. The hilariously parodical scenes which follow include the monster's encounter with a lonely, blind hermit (Gene Hackman) who befriends him, spills hot soup in his lap, and proffers a cigar but lights the monster's thumb instead, and the dancing duet to "Puttin' on the Ritz" performed by Friedrich and his monster.

Among the cast of characters Friedrich discovers when he returns to Transylvania with his fiancée (Madeline Kahn) are a pretty assistant named Inga (Teri Garr), the bug-eyed hunchback Igor -- who insists his name is pronounced "eye-gor" (Marty Feldman), and the old housekeeper Frau Blucher (Cloris Leachman). Friedrich's encounter with Frau Blucher leads into one of the film's running gags: Every time a character speaks the housekeeper's name, nearby horses whinny and neigh. A generation of film-goers, missing the obvious humor behind the gag, are now convinced they know the subtle "secret" that makes this "in-joke" funny: "Blucher" is the German (or Yiddish) word for "glue," and so the horses react in distress whenever they hear the name (because glue is made from horses, ya know).

The only in-joke connected with this gag is that so many people have missed its real humor and instead been taken in by a leg-pull. "Blucher" is not the German word for "glue," nor does it sound remotely like any German word for "glue" -- standard, slang, archaic, or otherwise. Blucher (or Blücher) is simply an ordinary Germanic surname. The joke employed in the film is a take-off on the hoary melodramatic film device of inserting an ominous organ riff or clap of thunder and having actors react with visible fright whenever the villain appears on-screen or a character refers to something evil or threatening. (Indeed, an ominous flash of lightning and clap of thunder accompanies Friedrich's first encounters with both Igor and Frau Blucher.) The "horse" bit is funny because the Frau Blucher character is neither evil nor a villain (but a disagreeable-looking harridan), because the horses are scared by the mere mention of Frau Blucher's name but are undisturbed by her physical presence, and because the gag is used ridiculously often throughout Young Frankenstein. (Horses are heard whinnying at any repetition of the words "Frau Blucher," even in settings -- such as the interior of Frankenstein's castle -- where no horses are present!) The second point is what seems to have thrown many viewers: The horses are terrified at hearing the name "Frau Blucher," but Frau Blucher herself doesn't bother them at all. Apparently some people have taken this bit of humor too literally and assumed the joke must have something to do with the name itself.

For some of us, the desire to believe we've been let in on a piece of secret knowledge can overpower our good sense and lead us to ludicrously arcane readings of the straightforward. Full appreciation of Young Frankenstein's broad humor requires only a familiarity with some common cinematic devices, not the process by which glue is made.

bud451 Offline
#24 Posted:
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Gene Hackman? I don't remember him in it.
bud451 Offline
#25 Posted:
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Peter Boyle played the monster
TrishS@CigarBid Offline
#26 Posted:
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Gene Hackman played the blind guy who scared the monster with fire, poured soup in his lap, etc.

- Trish
mhollowa Offline
#27 Posted:
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I guess we're all stopping by the video rental to squeeze a replay in before West Wing ... let me add ... Welcome Home to CVN 71, the Big Stick.
Charlie Offline
#28 Posted:
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I agree, welcome home Big Stick
















I agree! Welcome Home Big Stick CVN-71 on a job well done and they made me smile and remember my Navy days! I am going to light up a Padron to honor the Teddy Roosevelt and her officers and men/women! Charlie






Charlie Offline
#29 Posted:
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Whoops sorry about the poor English in last posting but something happened that I wasn't exoecting! Anyway it is quite a great site to watch a Carrier deply and return! Charlie
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