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HockeyDad Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 5:47 AM EST
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I'm trying to research Senator John Kerry's history in his 19 years in the US Senate in regards to major legislation he has authored and gotten passed into law. What I have come up with so far is that he has only successfully gotten 9 pieces of legislation passed and 6 of these are ceremonial. Can anyone help me find the 3 laws that Senator Kerry has gotten passed in his 19 years in Senate and could these be considered major legislation by any stretch of the imagination?

Since Kerry's voting record is so confused, I was hoping that major legislation he authored could shed some light. I thought this info would be easier to find but there is just nothing out there.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 6:55 AM EST
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The minute he threw his name in the ring I was looking...I haven't even found the ceremony ones, unless you're talking about the bills that he co-sponsered. He tacked his name on at the last minute when it looked like it was going to pass anyway.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 7:22 AM EST
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Although Kerry did vote on this issue...he wasn't a senator yet though...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37577
dbguru Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 9:02 AM EST
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OK now some context here.
How many bills does the average 3 term senator get passed during an 18 year tenure?



dbguru Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 9:03 AM EST
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Also what constitutes "Major Legislation" as opposed to minor legislation? and how does one judge the difference between the two??
DrMaddVibe Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 9:29 AM EST
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A lot more than NONE!
HockeyDad Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 9:37 AM EST
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Dbguru,

You bring up valid questions that I would also like to see answered.

However, first things first....Do you know the 9 bills Senator Kerry authored in 19 years that have gotten passed into public law?

I've found three so far but this isn't easy. I would love any light you could shed on my quest.
dbguru Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 9:39 AM EST
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BOOOOONK

WRONG ANSWER, you lose!!!

In fact I'm absolutely positive you are incapable of providing an accurate number to my question about average major legislation bills authored by 3 term senators or provide definitive definitions from mainstream sources on the difference between major and minor legislation.

In the absence of these facts, your statements are nothing but half truth propaganda and slime




dbguru Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 9:40 AM EST
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This last post was addressed to DMV's snide comments
HockeyDad Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 9:47 AM EST
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204 public laws have been passed by the 208th Congress. On average, that would work out to 2 per Senator, even if it was actually authored by someone on the House of Representatives side and just copied by the Senate.
HockeyDad Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 9:49 AM EST
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If the 208th Congress is an accurate portrayal of the last 19 years...

19 years X 2 = 38 public laws authored and/or sponsored per Senator.
dbguru Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 9:51 AM EST
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Hockey... Lets research this together when time permits... I'm really interested in the truth here, however I'm a very busy guy these days...

I'm really getting tired of the propaganda getting littered in this board from neo-con websites like NewsMax and WorldNetDaily. They make Fox news look fair and balanced.

However consider this, Bush's record as a president is 100 times more predictive about how this country will run for 4 more years of Bush than Kerry's voting record in the Senate is predictive of how Kerries leadership would be. A far more predictive indicator of what Kerry's leadership can be found on the www.johnkerry.com website.

Now if you like the way things have been in the last 4 years then by all means your probably happy to vote for Bush. If you are appalled as I am with this record as a President then you vote for Kerry. Its just that simple. Everything else is just pure distraction.
All the propaganda coming from conservative news sources are purely meant to cloud this basic reality.
dbguru Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 9:53 AM EST
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That's fair

Now we come to the question of defining major and minor legislation. Is that number all legislation or only major legistation and if so how is major legislation defined??
HockeyDad Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 10:00 AM EST
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That number was all legislation. The definition of major and minor is in the eyes of the beholder. I would say a major law is one that people actually remember the name of over time.

My numbers, however, weren't quite fair.

107th Congress: 377 laws
106th Congress: 580 laws
105th Congress: 394 laws
104th Congress: 333 laws
103rd Congress: 465 laws
102nd Congress: 590 laws

Based on that 6 year average, that would actually work out to 4.5 laws per year per Senator.

This is what I can't figure out with Kerry. He's got 9 laws in 19 years and the average would suggest 85.5.

penzt8 Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 11:10 AM EST
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REF: http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/d105/majordef.html

Major bills are identified by legislative analysts in the Congressional Research Service of the Library of Congress as those having floor action, debate, hearings, and/or media attention
HockeyDad Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Mar 15 2004, 11:26 AM EST
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It is all becoming clearer. We now have a definition of major bills, an average number of laws per year, and
I've found 8 Senator Kerry sponsored bills that have become law over his 19 year career. I had heard 9 laws from the BBC but I came up with just 8.

Now off to study those 8 laws...
HockeyDad Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 3:18 AM EST
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I have now been able to find all 9 laws that Senator Kerry authored/sponsored and got passed into law in his 19 years in the US Senate. Unfortunately, this didn't shed any more light on this candidate. This just doesn't seem to have a lot to show for 19 years. There must have been a great amount of distraction from cocktail parties. The more I look for things he has done, the more he looks like a ghost senator.

Senator Kerry promises lots of wonderful things. I just can't seem to find anything he's actually done other than be a millionaire socialite all his life from Swiss boarding school to New England Prep School to Yale to law school and finally to the US Senate. Oh, I forget the war hero/war protester years.
But at least he does play ice hockey and I do understand that he is not George W Bush but, is there anything else?


Here are his 9 laws:

S.300 : A bill to award a congressional gold medal to Jackie Robinson (posthumously), in recognition of his many contributions to the Nation, and to express the sense of Congress that there should be a national day in recognition of Jackie Robinson.
Sponsor: Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] (introduced 2/4/2003) Cosponsors: 69
Committees: Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
Latest Major Action: 10/20/2003 Held at the desk.
Note: For further action, see H.R. 1900, which became Public Law 108-101 on 10/29/2003.

S.856 : A bill to reauthorize the Small Business Technology Transfer Program, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] (introduced 5/9/2001) Cosponsors: 13
Committees: Senate Small Business and Entrepreneurship
Latest Major Action: 9/14/2001 Held at the desk.
Note: For further action, see H.R. 1860, which became Public Law 107-50 on 10/15/2001.

S.1609 : A bill to amend the National Trails System Act to direct the Secretary of the Interior to conduct a study on the feasibility of designating the Metacomet-Monadnock-Mattabesett Trail extending through western Massachusetts and central Connecticut as a national historic trail.
Sponsor: Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] (introduced 11/1/2001) Cosponsors: 3
Committees: Senate Energy and Natural Resources
Latest Major Action: 6/20/2002 Senate committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Committee on Energy and Natural Resources Subcommittee on National Parks. Hearings held. With printed Hearing: S.Hrg. 107-819.
Note: For further action, see H.R. 1814, which became Public Law 107-338 on 12/16/2002.

S.791 : A bill to amend the Small Business Act with respect to the women's business center program.
Sponsor: Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] (introduced 4/14/1999) Cosponsors: 30
Committees: Senate Small Business
Latest Major Action: 12/9/1999 Became Public Law No: 106-165.

S.1206 : A bill to redesignate the Federal building located at 380 Trapelo Road in Waltham, Massachusetts, as the "Frederick C. Murphy Federal Center".
Sponsor: Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] (introduced 7/1/1993) Cosponsors: 4
Committees: Senate Environment and Public Works; House Public Works and Transportation
Latest Major Action: 4/14/1994 Became Public Law No: 103-234.

S.1636 : A bill to authorize appropriations for the Marine Mammal Protection Act of 1972 and to improve the program to reduce the incidental taking of marine mammals during the course of commercial fishing operations, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] (introduced 11/8/1993) Cosponsors: 2
Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Latest Major Action: 4/30/1994 Became Public Law No: 103-238.

S.J.RES.318 : A joint resolution designating November 13, 1992, as "Vietnam Veterans Memorial 10th Anniversary Day".
Sponsor: Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] (introduced 6/18/1992) Cosponsors: 57
Committees: Senate Judiciary; House Post Office and Civil Service
Latest Major Action: 10/24/1992 Became Public Law No: 102-518.
13. S.J.RES.337 : A joint resolution designating September 18, 1992, as "National POW/MIA Recognition Day", and authorizing display of the National League of Families POW/MIA flag.
Sponsor: Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] (introduced 9/15/1992) Cosponsors: 31
Committees: Senate Judiciary
Latest Major Action: 9/30/1992 Became Public Law No: 102-373.
S.1563 : A bill to authorize appropriations to carry out the National Sea Grant College Program Act, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Kerry, John F. [MA] (introduced 7/25/1991) Cosponsors: 13
Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation; Senate Labor and Human Resources; House Merchant Marine and Fisheries
Latest Major Action: 12/4/1991 Signed by President.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 3:35 AM EST
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My God do you expect him to work MORE than he has!?!

Cryin' out loud, don't you know that being rich is a full time job. Pass the Ketchup....thank you...anyways, where was I...oh yeah...you expect him to actually take the time out of his busy day of yachting ,harley riding, and hockey to introduce legislation? Doncha think you're expecting too much? I mean c'mon...not everyone can take a check into the boards(and has!!!)and not get hurt.

Not only does he have to worry about the being rich aspect, but then there's the botox injections(see Droopy the dog or Lurch)that he has to attend to daily, and the war hero image to prop up. Everybody love a hero now, even if he committed war crimes.

Life for Kerry has been difficult, I mean the pickings are small in the Sugar Momma category and running against Democratic candidates like Howard Dean, Al Sharpton, Carol Mosley-Braun and Kucinich. He had to fight long and hard above the race cards and yelling to actually garner enough delegates.

Leave him alone, can't you see that he really just needs your sympathy, well that and your vote...hell, he'll even cry for you in order to get it.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 3:35 AM EST
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you guys have so many different point of view about his record as a senator and i'll bet you are all correct.

so on on hand, we have a senator that may or may not have been effective at passing some or more then some laws.

on the other hand we have a mope, who has bankrupted the country, led us into a BS war, did nothing immediately following the 9/11 tragedy except allow saudi royalty to fly all over the country to a common meeting location and then fly out of the country when all other civilian aircraft were grounded, and who has lost a few million jobs.

hmmm, who should i vote for, lazy or mopey.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 3:40 AM EST
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You should get busy digging you underground bunker and leave things like voting to the adults.



LMAO!
HockeyDad Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 3:46 AM EST
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Rick,

John Kerry is the anti-Bush vote.
Kerry and Bush are both from Yale and the secret Skull & Bones organization.

Ralph Nader is not a member of Skull & Bones.

Vote Nader! He is the anti-Skull & Bones candidate.
00camper Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 4:16 AM EST
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I think I will use my write-in privilege and write Alan Keyes on the ballot and pull the lever.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 4:42 AM EST
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00, I'm in agreement with you. Every time I've had the opportunity to vote for him in an election I did, when he was on the ballot.

I won't give anyone but GW a vote in this election.
tailgater Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 1:54 PM EST
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I'm from Massachusetts.
Even my democratic friends don't know what Kerry stands for.
And even if they did, all they'd have to do is wait a minute and he'd waffle his direction to the other side.
He's a joke and I'm embarrassed that he's from my state.
It's no secret that I also don't like our senior senator, Ted Kennedy. I disagree with most of his ideals, but at least he has proven to be effective in the things he believes in.
You can't say that for Kerry.

So if you want a simple minded "anti-Bush" vote, then vote for Kerry. But I've not heard any valid reason to do so.
And being anti-everything will get you nowhere.
Just ask Howard Dean.
CWFoster Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 2:46 PM EST
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BOOOOONK

WRONG ANSWER, you lose!!!

In fact I'm absolutely positive you are incapable of providing an accurate number to my question about average major legislation bills authored by 3 term senators or provide definitive definitions from mainstream sources on the difference between major and minor legislation.

In the absence of these facts, your statements are nothing but half truth propaganda and slime -DB


And for the lack of any meaningful rebuttal, your posts are hereby considered tripe, excrement, and snail tracks and are beneath contempt!
CWFoster Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 3:07 PM EST
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Rick, let'd do an analysis of what the past four years would have been like under Kerry! After all, we are in agreement as to the likely validity of the facts presented, and in lieu of foreknowledge of what may happen in the next four years, lets take Kerrys past eighteen years of Senate leadership, and try to ascertain what he MIGHT have done! He was an anti-war protester, so he probably wouldn't have got us into a "BS War" (which I served in incidentally) and likely would have done what Clinton (another paragon of Democratic leadership) would have done, and did do anytime we were attacked by the same people who attacked us on 9/11. Fired off a few dozen TLAMs at Afganistan and reasoned that that taught them a lesson! But then again, maybe not, he vetoed the defence spending appropriation bill, and there's no fuel for the fleet to put to sea, and no one has reenlisted in a year! Since the lesson would have been as effective as when Slick Willie taught it, we would no doubt be butt deep in casualties by now, because the terrorists would realize that the US has no longer the stomach to even defend itself. He might have thrown a dozen ICBMs at random targets, or even paved Afganistan with a couple of H-bombs, but eventually the novelty would wear off and the surrounding countries would go to the UN and demand that a rogue state that nuked other nations didn't need to be allowed to continue, and with more cooperation than we got in dealing with Iraq, all member nations would declare us "outlaw" and work towards our downfall! (or did this already happen?) The economy, which was already tanking before Bush took office, would have been already in serious decline, and with the loss of a significant percentage of our work force in the follow-on attacks caused by the meaningless response to 9/11, would totally collapse. Kerry, being aware of how busy the Sheiks are, being a man of great wealth himself, would go to Saudi Arabia to meet with them, after all, things are so depressing in America since the economy collapsed. And he hasn't been able to take a vacation in a week!

Yeah, Rick, you go ahead and vote for mopey!




Cavallo Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 5:32 PM EST
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at this point, i STILL can't say that i'll vote at all.

since i was legally able to vote, i've used that priviledge and voted in every presidentiall election (and as many locals as i could) -- all but one, and that's when i refused to vote clinton in for a second term or vote for his opponent (though now he's looking pretty good). :P

but i won't vote for some "lesser of two evils."

we CAN do better, and we MUST do better.
bloody spaniard Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 5:47 PM EST
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Don't have anything constructive to add & especially don't want to tangle with CW...

Just wanted to say hey & hope you're feeling better Mr. Cavallo!

Sorry for the interruption--please continue.

blood
AJ_CHICAGO Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 7:01 PM EST
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You guys don't get it at all. You're not voting for the "man", you're voting for the party and what it stands for and for the administration that will suround the "man". Bush has surrounded himself with egocentric, white collar, lying crooks, strong on defense, but very offensive to me. Kerry's administration is an unknown to me. I think I'll take a chance on the unknown. It may be better known by the time the election rolls around. One thing that bothers me is the thought of Hillary as Secretary of State.
usahog Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 7:09 PM EST
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http://www.opensecrets.org/1994os/osdata/kerryjoh.pdf

http://www.opensecrets.org/1996os/index/S4MA00069.htm

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp?CID=N00000245&cycle=1998

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp?CID=N00000245&cycle=2000

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp?CID=N00000245&cycle=2002

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.asp?CID=N00000245&cycle=2004

http://www.opensecrets.org/navasp/whosgetting_response.asp
You can use our search engine to find more references to "Kerry" on opensecrets.org.

for all your politicians needs..

Hog
usahog Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 7:12 PM EST
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and More

http://www.opensecrets.org/sitesearch/texis.exe/webinator/crpsearch/?db=osdb&query=Kerry

Hog
usahog Offline
#32 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 7:45 PM EST
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as Penzt8 already added..

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/R?d107:FLD003:@1(Sen+KERRY)

Hog
AJ_CHICAGO Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 7:58 PM EST
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Sorry, Hog. Hope you are well. It's late. I looked. Interesting facts, but in contrast of what? I said I'd stay away from this forum, but here I am again.
Robby Offline
#34 Posted: Tue, Mar 16 2004, 8:22 PM EST
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”In fact I'm absolutely positive you are incapable of providing an accurate number to my question about average major legislation bills authored by 3 term senators or provide definitive definitions from mainstream sources on the difference between major and minor legislation.

In the absence of these facts, your statements are nothing but half truth propaganda and slime”

Amazing! An ad homonym attack without addressing the substance of what was said WHATSOEVER!

This is rich!
“Now if you like the way things have been in the last 4 years then by all means your probably happy to vote for Bush. If you are appalled as I am with this record as a President then you vote for Kerry. Its just that simple. Everything else is just pure distraction.”

So if you like the fact that terrorists flew planes into the world trade center? That was CLEARLY Bush’s fault (in the DBs fairytale world)

Or if you like the fact that companies like Enron and Global Crossing and MCI distorted their earnings and caused mistrust of the companies in the DOW and the NASDAQ? That was CLEARLY Bush’s fault (in the DBs fairytale world)

Or if you like the fact that we’ve had to defend ourselves in multiple locations around the world against enemies who would see us torn asunder. That was CLEARLY Bush’s fault (in the DBs fairytale world)

Or if you DON’T like the fact that you have more of YOUR OWN MONEY TO SPEND THANKS TO THE BUSH TAX CUTS! Then, clearly, the government knows better how to spend your money than do you (in the DBs fairytale world)

“Hockey... Lets research this together when time permits... I'm really interested in the truth here, however I'm a very busy guy these days...”

Busy shoveling ****…
eleltea Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Mar 17 2004, 3:49 AM EST
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Kerry deserves our vote for sponsoring the re-naming of the Frederick C. Murphy Federal Center. Those of us who knew Fred will be forever grateful to John. It was a gutsy thing to do, and the right thing, too.
usahog Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Oct 14 2004, 9:38 PM EST
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Ker Plunk....

good thread that needs life again... ;0)

Hog
THL Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Oct 15 2004, 4:04 AM EST
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Hey, I'm a Republican. If we have to have a Democrat for President I would prefer that he be ineffective.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Oct 15 2004, 5:25 AM EST
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john kerry spent his time investigating and broke the BCCI scandal wide open.

so what, you want to hit him in the head with a claw hammer and kiss bush's ass, so no amount of information will penetrate. vote your opinions whatever they are.

incidentally bush didn't win any of the debates in spite of all the BS spin and if cheney's wife was so hurt about the mention of her daughter, why did she write a novel about lesbians. it's good that a wife backs her husband, but if that is the best the republicans can find in the debate to critique kerry, they are are in deep dodo.
bassdude Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Oct 15 2004, 5:53 AM EST
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19 years on one scandal - WOW!!!! Rick even you are not blind enough to see that he was an ineffective senator. Why would you expect anything else if he is president?
CanyonDVM Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Oct 15 2004, 6:15 AM EST
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If we had more Senators and Congressman that didn't pass any laws the country would not be overwhelmed with laws that no one understands or looked at the effects of. Maybe I should re-think my opposition to Kerry. If it wasn't for the little issue of a nation at war a do nothing President might be a good thing.
osage Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Oct 15 2004, 5:41 PM EST
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So in 20 years he has done one thing according to Rick. That is sure going to make me vote for Kerry. NOT!
mike88 Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2004, 1:02 AM EST
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There is no doubt about one thing a vote for Kerry is a vote for a tax hike and a big one. check that in his record. Mike 88
Charlie Offline
#43 Posted: Sat, Oct 16 2004, 8:18 AM EST
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dbguru

Welcome back from your stay under the rock that you seem to crawl back to after a few meaningless and hateful posts every week or so! You amaze me with your anti stands on most everything, but still you make me LOL!

Charlie
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