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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Feb 26 2002, 2:39 PM EST
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good morning char5353
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hegemonic Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Feb 26 2002, 5:47 PM EST
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Rick, ya know I love ya, but that's no axis, that's a triangle. Still bitter over Gorebot 2000 losing? ;)
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Feb 26 2002, 7:04 PM EST
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hegemonic: i just cut and paste, i don't draw them. i didn't care about gore, remember i voted for nadar. and next year michael moore or jesse ventura, anyone other than this maniacal moron, you know the guy, the one who read "curious george" to 12 year olds. how did you beat char5353 to the post? if i forgot to ask, i need some sites for "hegomonics"(sp)
Todog Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Feb 26 2002, 8:08 PM EST
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Voting for Nader is sure something to be proud of! What a waste of the privilege to vote!
jjohnson28 Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Feb 26 2002, 9:32 PM EST
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ClancyDaBulldog Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Feb 26 2002, 9:40 PM EST
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it looks like somebody tore a stogie out of cheneys mouth!!!! hahahahahahaha!
decasere_CW Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Feb 27 2002, 3:39 AM EST
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actually thats a pretty assanine statement todog, this country was founded on freedom and gives everyman the right to vote how he feels. If it werent for the adding of the justices or the possibility of a Roe V Wade overeturn (yes i am pro life, lets leave that there) otherwise i would have voted Nader, he seemed to have some great ideas and he isnt tied into the big money people ala Gore or Bush.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Feb 27 2002, 9:15 AM EST
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decasere: i guess i am pro-life also. i don't like the idea of abortions, but it is none of my business what other people do as long as they don't park in my driveway.
gdurfor Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Feb 27 2002, 11:04 AM EST
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I guess people of the liberal tilt just can't stand a man with morals and principles(gwbush) it goes against their is no right or wrong philsophy. They'd rather have some one who speak well but doesn't have a conscience or a thread of descency in him(BillyC).

Glenn
decasere_CW Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Feb 27 2002, 11:26 AM EST
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gdurfor, do i like bush? mostly, but no politician is incorrupt, i'd really like to think of him as a moral man, but i cant be blind to where he is or how he possibly got there.
Charlie Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Feb 27 2002, 4:07 PM EST
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Ha Ha Ha! A little more class than your Hitler/Bush posting! Rick, get over the fact that the clowns you vote for loose! They will continue to loose if you keep throwing your vote away! Charlie
jcrimmins Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Feb 27 2002, 6:06 PM EST
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I gotta agree with Todog. A vote for Nader was a wasted vote. Just like Perot before him. It is your right to vote for whomever you want. You can also stick your hand in a garbage disposal. But why???
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Feb 27 2002, 7:36 PM EST
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jcrimmins: the disposal will take off corns if you stick your foot in it.
Charlie Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Feb 28 2002, 5:57 AM EST
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Jack, very good point, and Rick you asked for this......You have a lot of experience of sticking your foot into places-including your mouth! Charlie
xrundog Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Feb 28 2002, 10:25 AM EST
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Confucious say: Only vote wasted is the one not cast. I say: Vote your beliefs, vote your heart, vote your party. Heck, vote for your brother! Just vote! By the way, Cheney should be at the top.
tailgater Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Mar 2 2002, 6:45 PM EST
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When you vote for someone who has NO chance to win it is a wasted vote. And in a close election who knows what could happen. Let's face it Rick, without folks like you who voted for Nadar, chances are Gore would have won Florida and therefore the election. I have already sent out my thank-you card to Ralph and may I suggest you all do the same. But don't compare Nadar to Perot. The Texas midget got a high percentage of votes and put a third party onto the map.
Charlie Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Mar 3 2002, 8:54 AM EST
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Joe, what you say is very true, but the Texas Elf did even more, because of him we had our Clinton Years...corruption, money laundering, land deals, pardons for sale and of course-Monica! Charlie
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Mar 4 2002, 1:48 AM EST
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tailgater: i voted for perot. by the way, lest you forget, gore won the election, but bush was knighted by the dirtiest court since "judgement at nuremberg".
in my opinion, and i am not humble.
calavera Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Mar 4 2002, 3:18 AM EST
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actually, gore didn't win the election, or he would be president. since I don't see any of the democratic apparatchiks occupying the white house, bush must have won.
Teninx Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Mar 4 2002, 3:38 AM EST
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What arrogance it is to proclaim that a citizen who casts a vote could be wasting the opportunity.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Mar 4 2002, 7:26 AM EST
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calavera: "apparatchiks" what a command of the language you have. would that include lbj, jfk, and, dare i mention his name, clinton?
Charlie Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Mar 4 2002, 8:06 AM EST
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Rick, by what count would you say that Al Gore won? All the recounts, no matter how liberal the organization, have still wound up with Bush winning Florida! Nurenberg Council? Really, you call the Supreme Court a Nazi tribunal! I am most ashamed of you!!!! Charlie
calavera Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Mar 4 2002, 8:13 AM EST
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I have no opinion on lbj or jfk (other than the fact that I wish he would not have imposed the trade embargo on Cuba, but that is a whole other thread). as far as Clinton, well what can I say that hasn't already been said? Except that I strongly disagree with his policy of ever increasing levels of infringement of our second amendment rights. By apparatchik I merely meant to imply that Gore was a staid follower of the democratic (read Clinton) party line.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Mar 4 2002, 9:36 AM EST
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calavera: perhaps we disagree on the meaning of the word "apparatchik".
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Mar 4 2002, 9:52 AM EST
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char5353: when a court makes a decision for political expediency, with no regard for it's legality, it is corrupt. rehnquist with his gold affectations on his sleeves (gosh, i didn't know the property i bought was restricted. i'm not good at legal documents), and elmer fudd, (i did not tell that woman it might be a pubic hair. it depends on your definition pf pubic). are these your hero's? mine usually have 3 kinds of meat, 2 kinds of cheese, lettuce, tomato, mustard, and are served on a crisp bun.
tailgater Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Mar 4 2002, 5:37 PM EST
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So much politics on a picture post. I'm giddy. But to suggest it is arrogant to claim a vote for nobody is no better than no vote at all is a bit harsh (but the point is well taken). As for Gore's vote tally, the means may upset you, but the results are the same. Apparently you feel it would have been benificial to use the courts and public moneys to recount the recounts in order to prove the inevitable. I don't agree.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2002, 12:42 AM EST
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tailgater: probably would have been cheaper than the tax rebates to corporations and the fact we are in debt again.
tailgater Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2002, 4:48 PM EST
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The US Economy has been in a recession for some time now. Then the tragic events of 9-11 made matters worse. The fact that we're not in a real depression economically is a tribute to the strength of America. But to suggest that a stimulus package (via rebates) is the cause for the slump shows your lack of understanding. Or perhaps you feel the government deserves more than the 40% they currently steal from American pockets. Don't forget, Jefforson and company kicked the British out for taxing the new colony about 3%. How would they feel today?
eleltea Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2002, 5:27 AM EST
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I do not agree that a vote for a losing candidate is a wasted vote. In that case, anyone who voted for Gore wasted his vote and should've voted for Bush. The only wasted vote is the one that isn't cast, and there's damn sure plenty of those. I usually vote for the Libertarian candidate. If enough people wasted their vote and voted the same way, we could stop the endless cycle of this year GOP, next year DEMs, business as usual either way. I would've voted for Perot if he hadn't gone nutso during his first campaign. But opnions are like alpha hotels. We've all got one.
tailgater Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2002, 6:00 AM EST
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Good points. My original comment regarding a vote for Nadar as being a waste was based on the intent of the vote. Rick didn't vote for Nadar, he voted AGAINST Bush and Gore. He may as well had voted for Tailgater. Same effect.
donutboy2000 Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2002, 6:40 PM EST
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If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
jjohnson28 Offline
#32 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2002, 7:27 PM EST
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I like Cheese!
Todog Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, Mar 12 2002, 9:44 PM EST
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Des, After further thought, let me rephrase my post. Voting for Nader was a waste of time however, the fact that Rick exercised his privelege to vote and helped to elevate GWB to the White House should be commended!
DLR Offline
#34 Posted: Sat, Apr 6 2002, 1:36 PM EST
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New guy here. Just wanted to make a comment concerning the scandals of the "Clinton Years". I personally would take those good old days of sex scandals and a do-nothing Congress obsessed with impeachment over our Executive Branch now being used as a halfway house for ex-Enron employees. At least that wasn't costing me money and putting people out of work.
DLR Offline
#35 Posted: Sat, Apr 6 2002, 1:43 PM EST
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The danger in your logic is that you are admitting the voters no longer control the country. If we relegate ourselves to only voting for a Democrat or Republican, we will only have a choice of the candidates the parties pick for us. Face it, the average voter has no say in which candidate the parties designate. If they can perpetuate the belief that voting for anything but either of the Big Two is a wasted vote, they maintain the shared stranglehold on the politics of this country. Face it, there really is very little difference between the two parties. Most is simply media fluff that plays on emotions.
[email protected] Offline
#36 Posted: Sat, Apr 6 2002, 2:56 PM EST
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Good point to both DLR - good point to both ...
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#37 Posted: Sat, Apr 6 2002, 5:53 PM EST
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DLR: a voice of reason. stick around, we need more.
tailgater Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Apr 7 2002, 6:29 PM EST
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Enron was a no win situation for the Bush administration. Let's face it, this multi billion dollar conglomerate didn't fold because of recent problems. The demise started long ago, so if you want to blame an administration blame your over sexed egomaniac idol. I don't blame either administration. And Bush is criticized for "letting" them go belly up. What if they bailed them out? This was the biggest catch 22 in history. What needs to be done now is to set an example so others can't (or won't) follow suit. But I believe that is more in the hands of the judicial system than in the Oval Office. At least it should be.
jjohnson28 Offline
#39 Posted: Mon, Apr 8 2002, 10:21 PM EST
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Bill Clinton Tanked this Country! No ifs ands Or Buts,About it!Live with it Ricky! I have faith that GW will do what he beleives is best for this Country.You can say all you wan't to about my President.I believe it with all my heart.He is the best man for the job at hand.Again I belive that with all my heart!
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#40 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 2:39 AM EST
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jjohnson28: i respect your beliefs.
Charlie Offline
#41 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 5:32 AM EST
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JJ, Right on!!! Charlie
Slimboli Offline
#42 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 11:05 AM EST
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Hummmmm ... why then was the economy so prosperous during Clinton's eight years?
tailgater Offline
#43 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 11:33 AM EST
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Et tu, Slim-ay? Et tu?
rookie139 Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, Apr 11 2002, 11:16 PM EST
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Greenspan
jcrimmins Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Apr 12 2002, 3:07 AM EST
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Take this to the political board before I light my shoe.
calavera Offline
#46 Posted: Fri, Apr 12 2002, 3:22 AM EST
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Clinton should write a great big thank you letter to the two presidents before him, as they managed to straighten out the economy and bring down the soviet union, thus making Billy's eight years a cake walk, and making it look like he actually did something other than shady real estate deals and bang interns.
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