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The Bush tax cut and its effect on 2001 taxes.
smokerings1 Offline
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From The Chicago Sun-Times, 2/20/02:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-tax20.html

Tax cut joy fades into frustration

February 20, 2002

BY LUCIO GUERRERO STAFF REPORTER

When Mary Rotterdam sat down with her accountant this past weekend to
do her taxes, she got a big surprise.

What she thought was going to be a great refund turned out to be only
a good one.

The problem: Like many other taxpayers, Rotterdam didn't understand
how last summer's ballyhooed tax rebates worked.

HOW IT WORKS

Many people filing their federal income tax returns are making
mistakes because of the tax-rebate checks the Bush administration sent
out with great fanfare last summer.

The problem: People didn't realize that those checks--$300 for
singles, $600 for couples filing jointly--were advances based on a tax
cut that saw the federal income tax rate on the first $6,000 of income
for singles and the first $12,000 for married couples filing jointly
trimmed from 15 percent to 10 percent. Rather than make people wait
till tax-return time to see the benefits of that cut, the government
mailed checks in advance.

Now that people are filing their tax returns, here are a couple of
examples of how those advances affect them:

* A family of four that typically gets a $1,000 refund from the IRS
would have gotten back $1,600 at tax time this year, under the new tax
rates. But remember that $600 check last summer? That counts toward
the $1,600. So this family would get just a $1,000 refund when they
file their return.

* A single taxpayer who usually ends up owing the IRS $1,000 would,
under the new rates, owe $700 this year. But that taxpayer would have
gotten a $300 check last summer. So he'd still owe $1,000 come April
15. As a result of the tax cut, the IRS has adjusted the amount
employers withhold from paychecks so that people's take-home pay is
slightly higher.


WATCH OUT FOR LINE 47

Line 47 on the 1040 form relates to last summer's tax refund. If you
got a check last year, leave that line blank when figuring your taxes.



HOW LAST YEAR'S REBATE AFFECTS THIS YEAR'S TAXES


They thought it was free money.

Actually, it was just an advance, meant to more quickly put cash into
taxpayers' hands that they would otherwise have seen only when they
filed this season's federal income tax returns and saw the effect of
the lower tax rates imposed last year to give the economy a $1.35
trillion boost over 10 years.

"That was never clear. That's not the way it was sold to us," said
Rotterdam, a Chicago woman who works as an administrative assistant at
a law firm.

Her accountant broke the news.

"When he told me I already got part of my refund, I just about
screamed," she said.

Rotterdam will be getting an $800 refund.

She was hoping for more--$300 more.

That was the amount of the advance check she got from the federal
government last summer.

"Thankfully, I didn't go out and spend a bunch of money, banking on
this tax cut," she said.

After President Bush signed the 10-year tax cut into law last summer,
checks went out to 85 million households--$300 for single taxpayers,
$500 for single heads of households and $600 for married couples
filing a joint federal tax return.

Tax preparers throughout the country are now trying to explain to
their clients that those checks were just an advance, that they won't
also see a much smaller tax bill or larger refund, too.

"We have a list that we give people when they come in that tries to
explain what's going on," said Steve Hardy, H&R Block's district
manager in the Loop.

One sign of the confusion:

The IRS says that, so far, more than a million 2001 tax returns have
been filed with errors regarding the tax rebate.

In most cases, the agency said, people mistakenly tried, in effect, to
take the tax cut twice.

The mistake turns up on Line 47 of Form 1040.

Most taxpayers got a rebate check last summer.

But some--especially those who owed back taxes or had past-due child
support--didn't.

If you got a check, leave Line 47 blank, said Anthony Burke, a
spokesman for the Internal Revenue Service in Washington.

If you didn't, fill out what the IRS calls a "rate reduction credit
worksheet" to see if you qualify and, if so, how much to claim on Line
47.

The problems arise when people who got a check last summer
nevertheless put down $300 or $600--the amount they already got
back--on Line 47.

"We are asking people to pay close attention to their returns when it
comes to Line 47," said Burke.

The IRS now is double-checking Line 47 on all returns.

Those who made a mistake will be notified by mail either that the IRS
has corrected the error or that the agency wants them to file an
amended return, which will slow any refunds.

__________________________________________________

And Li'l Georgie even sent out $35 million dollars worth of personal
letters to us taking credit for this mess. Remember?
JonR Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2002
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My eyes hurt.
xrundog Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2002
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Dang, aint we got fun tonight! Yeah, the print is small, the paragraph is large, the language is twisted. And I am up too late. My wife did the taxes(she's a smart one). And we got a check. Sooooo did I pay it back already?
Charlie Offline
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What a bunch of crap! thanks for all the verbage Smokerings, I am sure you had rather have Billy and Hilly in office and wouldn't it be much better for all of us??? Charlie
smokerings1 Offline
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My voting decisions dont neccessarily fall on party lines. Clinton was crooked, but good with foreign policy. My choice would have been Mcain.
Charlie Offline
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Fair enough, but how do you feel about McCain's involvement in the Lincoln Savings and Loan fiasco? Charlie
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#7 Posted:
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smokerings1: this discussion started last year re the $300 to $600 ADVANCE on the tax returns for this year. i do believe most people did get the message. at least in the old days when they bought your vote with a couple of beers and a cigar (snuck that in) you didn't have to pay it back later. anyone who does his own taxes has a fool for a client.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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char5353: who did you have before president clinton and senator clinton around to blame thing on. it's sort of, enough about me, what do you think about clinton.
jjohnson28 Offline
#9 Posted:
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Well,I don't know about the rest of you.But somewhere along the line I got a tax cut.For the past 6-8 yrs or so,nothing much has changed as far as my filing status or general income(except I used to work a lot more overtime,LOL).I usually owe between 800-1000 to the feds and 200-300 to the great State of Califonia.Yes I got my $300 check and low and behold I only owe 300+or- to the feds and around $50 to the State.I'll have to check the #'s closer,but dang it my % on the fed went down! thats all I know. Hail GW!!!
calavera Offline
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All I know is that my wife and I have our taxes pretty close to exactly pegged and pay in from 100 to 200 dollars every year. This year we payed in 160, no surprise, but we got a check from the IRS for 600. So I don't care what you call it or how you try to twist it around, we got a tax rebate.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#11 Posted:
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jjohnson28 : enjoy it this year. 15% bracket went to 10% for this one time only.
Charlie Offline
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Rick, there's always a good liberal democrat to blame things on! Just take your pick from the many: Tom Daschle, "Distinguished" Dickie Gephardt, Teddy Kennedy, Hubert Humphrey, Mayor Daley the list could go on and on, but I think you get the point! GWB is a voice of reason!!! Charlie
tailgater Offline
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Are there actually people out there that are upset because a tax rebate check came TOO EARLY???
jjohnson28 Offline
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Sorry Rick, but you see,I'm in the 27.5% to 30.5% brackets most years.LOL.....Not only that but I got my $300 check plus I'm paying $500-$700 less than any other recent year/years.Thanks GW I'll smoke one tonight in your honor,I'll smoke one for Rick also,cause I know deep down he realizes your the best man for the office of President.He's just too damn stubborn to admit it.LOL
jjohnson28 Offline
#15 Posted:
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Geez Rick what on earth made you presume,that I was in the 15% bracket and didn't make more than $27K? LOL......Truth is it looks as though I got somewhere in the neighborhood of a 1.5% tax cut.Aprox $900-$1000.Granted a 5% cut would have been sweet.but I'll take what I can get.Without GW we would have got Zip,Nada,Ziltch.You get the picture.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#16 Posted:
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jjohnson28 "I know deep down he realizes your the best man" i'll have my internist check during my next colonoscopy.
jjohnson28 Offline
#17 Posted:
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Ah Ha! So you admit it? You do have Sh*t for brains.LOLOLOL.......Sorry, Hehehehehehe!
Charlie Offline
#18 Posted:
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Liberals will cry about anything!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH, I didn't get enough, or Waaaaaaaaaahhh, I think they got too much!!! Charlie
jjohnson28 Offline
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Me?....I'm still waiting for one of our well informed/ liberal/better informed? Members, to tell me in fact, that I did not recieve a tax cut!......Anybody? HELLO/ HELLO! IS THIS THING ON?
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