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tailgater Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 12:09 PM EST
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Much has been said about types of cutters, etc. But I've got to say again how unbelievable the Wenger Swiss Army knife cigar cutter works! I usually carry a pocket knife anyhow, so I am never without a cutter, and the thing works PERFECT. It almost seems like it's sharper now than when I first bought it over a year ago.
jcrimmins Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 2:18 PM EST
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Nothing like having your Wenger in the palm of your hand.
delarob Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 4:27 PM EST
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How big are these Wengers?
tailgater Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 6:06 PM EST
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Wenger, the folks who make the Swiss Army Knives, make a couple versions of the cigar cutter tool. Mine has all the basics (knife, awl, file, can opener, bottle opener/screw driver, cork screw, and fancy cigar thing) but is still rather thin. It is not overly bulky in my pocket.
eleltea Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 6:08 PM EST
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I'm happy with my Xikar, but haven't tried the Wenger. Used to think I'd like to try Debra Wenger.
JonR Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 6:11 PM EST
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One F O X Y looking woman!
Todog Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 8:15 PM EST
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I don't have ANY room in my pockets!
jjohnson28 Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Apr 9 2002, 10:48 PM EST
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Bottle opener? Wooo Hooo,I'm there!....
Charlie Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Apr 10 2002, 4:20 AM EST
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I like the Xikar, and really haven't found the need for all the survival attachments to the Swiss Army Knife! But who knows with all the stupid terrorist threats the Swiss Army knife might be a good addition to my cutter collection! Charlie
eleltea Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Apr 10 2002, 6:01 AM EST
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Which reminds me. Airport security actually confiscated my cheap double guillotine cutter during a full bag search (I am european descent, protestant, blue eyes, gray hair, older, no earrings or tatoos ---in short, I fit the profile to a t). I had carried that cutter with me on maybe 50 trips back and forth between DFW and Cincinnati. I asked the lady taking the cutter "What am I going to do? Force someone to stick their finger in there?" No sense of humor at the airport. Pack your cutters, especially knives, in your checkin luggage if you must take them, or say goodbye.
Charlie Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Apr 10 2002, 7:45 AM EST
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I lost a cutter on Sept 16 2001 when returning from Jacksonville, Fla to fly to Orange Co, CA and it was amazing the number of cigar cutters and razors (gillete, etc) that were confiscated!!!! They continue to collect them and I asked the security guy at John Wayne (Orange Co Airport) what they do with those things, and he said all are taken to the dump!!! Charlie
bud451 Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Apr 10 2002, 8:26 AM EST
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Which dump?
eleltea Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Apr 10 2002, 4:49 PM EST
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He misspoke himself. He meant to say they take the cheap ones to the dump.
Dishman Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Apr 10 2002, 5:05 PM EST
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Does Victornox make one as well?
eleltea Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Apr 11 2002, 3:35 AM EST
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My grannie used to rub Victomox on my chest when I had the flu.
Charlie Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Apr 11 2002, 5:56 AM EST
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The Orange County dump I guess!!! They probably sell them or something, who knows!!! It is silly to confiscate something like that, but if it makes them happy so be it! Charlie
Orv Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Apr 11 2002, 7:47 AM EST
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No jokes at the airport. Those folks have no sense of humor. You might just find yourself detained and missing your flight.There was an article about this in USA Today yesterday.

Enough about that though. Back to the Swiss Army Cutter. I have only been smoking gars about a year so I really didn't have a lot of preconceived notions concerning cutters. I had a Xikar that just really seemed to damage the cigars almost everytime I cut one. I sent it back and got another, same thing. I thought maybe it was me or my technique. I got a Swiss Army cutter and beleive me, it wasn't me. This thing goes through a gar like butter. I also have a Zino that I am still checking out, but my first impression is that the SAK beats anything I've used. ORV
bud451 Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Apr 12 2002, 3:30 AM EST
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Victorinox is the company that makes the original Swiss Army knife.

Slimboli Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Apr 12 2002, 5:52 AM EST
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Bud ... the Wenger Company first laid down it's foundations over 100 years ago, the Swiss Army Knife evolved under the guidance of such Swiss Industrialists as Paul Boechat and Theo Wenger.

Wenger is the only Swiss cutler to be granted the prestigious cross bow which today appears on all of their Swiss Army Knives.

In the Swiss government's typically neutral fashion contracts were issued for their Swiss Army Knives to both Wenger, in the French-speaking Jura region and Victorinox, in the German-speaking canton of Schwyz.

Although in the initial stages there were a host of small craftsmen working in tandem with the two industrial cutlers, since the 1920's they have occupied the stage alone as the exclusive producers of the military knife.

Wenger and Victorinox are also the only two who are entitled to use the legally protected symbol of the federal cross on the numerous civilian versions that have been derived since before the First World War, which certifies their Swiss authenticity.

So, to this day both companies can lay claim to being the manufacturer of the Swiss Army Knife. By gentlemen's agreement, Wenger is proclaimed as the manufacturer of the Genuine Swiss Army Knife and Victorinox uses Original Swiss Army Knife, as their respective tag lines.
Slimboli Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Apr 12 2002, 5:58 AM EST
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... so, you are correct that Victorinox uses the 'Original Swiss Army knife' slogan, but Wenger is also genuine!

I just thought the folks here might want a little more history on the subject, and you gave me an opportunity to 'cut and paste' ... HA!
Charlie Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Apr 12 2002, 6:05 AM EST
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Most impressive historical perspective, now would you be kind enough to research the origins of Zippo lighters and why they have not changed their manufacturing process through the years? Charlie
bud451 Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Apr 12 2002, 8:07 AM EST
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Correct you are Slim, somehow I figured you'd pull a Cliff Claven on this one, LOL. I did my research some years ago on the 2 companies when we got a Victorinox set of cutlery for a wedding gift(excellent knives BTW).....both companies produce quality products. Victorinox just clams to be first or "original"....who knows.
Slimboli Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Apr 21 2002, 5:01 AM EST
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Charlie ... this is probably the best place to read up on Zippo Lighters

An interesting place to also visit is the Visitors Center

And finally ... check out this article on Zippo's

Hope this was helpful ...
Slimboli Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Apr 21 2002, 5:12 AM EST
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And one other intersting thing to note, is they did change slightly in appearance only. The original Zippo from 1932 shows quite distinctly the two main differences between the Zippo today, and that of the original.

The corners and the top are square and the hinge is affixed to the outside of the lighter. A few more changes to the lighter occurred over the years, but the fundamental design never did.

1937 saw the hinge moved to inside the casing, and 1943 saw the start of the rounded top as is today. Blaisdell had great faith in the original lighter and even went so far as to declare that "This lighter will not change as long as I live".

The lighter's retail price in 1932 was $1.95. The development of the lighter, its look and popularity grew not so much out of changes to the lighter itself, but to the development of themes that history presented over the years.

Blaisdell was a genius at capturing the trend of the day and converting this to viable economic prosperity for Zippo.
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