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should just move to another country. he seems to hate this country. he hates the administration. he considers the recent election to be an absolute disaster. he doesn't seem to respect the military and its views, and it's the military that insures the freedom he so enjoys.

rick, i don't know you. i do know that you have a very arrogant attitude on these boards, and you seem to despise the current administration. you say a lot of things as though they are fact, but you have problems substantiating them. you arrogantly put down opinions that are contrary to your own. i know there are a lot of people that disagree with me, but i try to respect their side as well. i sometimes fail, but at least i try. heck, there are all kinds of discussions here with opposing viewpoints, but no one here is anywhere near as condescending as you. we have many people here that go back and forth everyday about politics. nobody really seems to be a political plague on the board except you. you stick out like a sore thumb.

if you're too good for this country, leave. if you deserve more than the government and its people are providing, go wherever you can to get what you feel you are owed. my tolerance is at an end with your attitude. i would not be hurt to never see a politically motivated post by you again. in fact, i think these boards might be a better place w/o your political garbage. i have no problem at all with your other posts. you seem to be a friendly person for the most part. it's the arrogance and lack of respect for the country that is infuriating.


sorry, i just had to get that out. i feel better know. maybe i'm the one that should just stop reading the forum.

hey, that's not funny. i'm only 5'6".

but i'm drinking milk, and one day . . .

lofty1

i'm glad to see you speak your mind, and i am not being sarcastic.

"should just move to another country." why, i love this country. i speak my mind to protect it.

"he doesn't seem to respect the military" where did you get that nonsense.

"i do know that you have a very arrogant attitude on these boards" it comes with the territory.

"political plague" ? are you getting a cold or a fever, or blisters on your arm. bad simili.

"you stick out like a sore thumb." that is by design.

"i think these boards might be a better place w/o your political garbage." you would find a bunch of guys like charlie and JonR sitting around agreeing with each other, along with many others, and eventually they would get bored with each other.


"i have no problem at all with your other posts. you seem to be a friendly person for the most part" sans politics, i am an easy going guy who plays with birds, goes to vegas two or three times a month for a few weeks at a time and plays nickle slots.

"it's the arrogance and lack of respect for the country that is infuriating." i have already mentioned my love for my country, my arrogance is my arrogance, and it relates to politics only.

"maybe i'm the one that should just stop reading the forum." and miss all the fun and excitement. stick around and think of it as the performance it is.

another example of a sad, pathetic man doing whatever he can to get any response at all...it hurts so good, doesn't it rick?

on another thread uncleb writes:

I will definitley recongnize GW as the POTUSA. He was voted in fair and square, no question. I will still question decisions that I do not agree with but he the President of my country and as such, gets my support.



to me, this is respectful. he disagrees with the policies of the administration, but declares it respectfully. this is a civil disagreement concerning politics. i agree with many decisions of the president that uncleb may find disturbing or misguided. he is not malicious. he is not arrogant. he is not condescending. i respect and welcome such opinions. i'm not looking for perfect harmony and agreement. i don't think anyone here is. i think we all just would prefer a little respect concerning our political discussions. does that make more sense?

Lofty- Thank you for speakly so kindly of me.

I think most of you are taking Rick a little to seriously. He has said it more than once in numerous posts... he is performing. He makes his political posts with the sole purpose of eliciting a strong response... one way or another. Most of the political posters on this forum do the same thing to a certain extent. Sometimes the line gets stepped over (maybe a little more often by Rick). Politics brings that out in just about everyone.

As for the suggestion that he leave the country, that's absurd!!! Like any of us has the right to tell another American to leave this country (illegal aliens-yes we have the right).

lofty1

where were you when i was called a piece of ****, **** you (from marla), and a few other things designed not to disagree with my point of view, but to personally insult me, or at least attempt to.


i looked around, but i must have missed you. where were you?

rick wrote:
lofty1

where were you when i was called a piece of ****, **** you (from marla), and a few other things designed not to disagree with my point of view, but to personally insult me, or at least attempt to.


i looked around, but i must have missed you. where were you?



i missed marla's "**** you", unfortunately, but i caught you being called a piece of ****. in fact, that was the "straw", so to speak, that inspired me to write my post. simply put, you asked for it. you beg for it all the time. it's as though you try to make people mad. i see the fun and entertainment value in simple teasing, but seem to want to make folks' blood truly boil. why would anyone deliberately attempt to be hated?

uncleb, i never said that rick should actually leave. well, i never really meant to. i merely proposed that if he hates this government, military, and really the whole country as much as he disrespects it, perhaps leaving would be best for him. it's really more of a suggestion to him to solve a problem he seems to have. kind of like, if you don't like his posts, don't read them. hmmm, i could be on to something there.

Lofty do what I do. Anytime you see a post authored by Rickmaven skip over it as you know it isn't going to contain anything remotely useful, entertaining, or informative. If its a thread started by Rick don't bother opening it. I started doing this awhile ago and found that it works quite well.

I thought about this last night and came to the same conclusion as plabonte. Maybe if we all ignore rick he will wither up and go away.

dumluk

mistype. two or three times a YEAR. when we sold toby's ten year old caddy it had less then 45000 miles. that was the car we used to drive to vegas, her new scion 4 months old, has just turned 1000 miles. all the caddiy's ,ilage was on I-15 north and south.

the scion is good for around town, but we will now put some milageon my 95 LHS that has just turned 44,000 miles.

it's a shame the price of gas is about the cost of milk now, but i'm lucky, i use so little, it's not a big expense or me.

when you try to piss people off, you should expect them to respond with anger. if you don't, you're just being unrealistic. of course, most of your points seem to be just that. it's amazing how many similarites there are between you and moore. it's no wonder you're both hated. you're both very one-sided. you both act as though you have pure intentions when you really strive to anger the opposition. when you've achieved your goal your behavior is:

"what? what did i do? why are you so angry with me? i just brought up an idea or asked a question. why would you be so mad at me?"

it's a truly pathetic m.o. it's infuriating and cowardly because it avoids real two-way discussions while jabbing at the opposition.

bassdude

you are truly a man of honor. a rational human being. you want to hit me because you disagree with me. do you strike out against every one that disagrees with you?

yep you shouldn't bring your goat to the party if you don't want anyone to get it

What Bloody said. This would be one sorry, boring place without the diverse opinions. We're all allowed to have these opinions without fear of someone kicking down the door and shooting our entire family. Remember we DO all agree on one thing - we love cigars, which is what brought us here in the first place. Cigars - apolitical - the real uniters.

I have been reading this board for about 3 years, and Rick was one of the more interesting contributors, and at that time, did not suffer from the problems he is having now. However, also at that time, there were not so many people who spoke out right-wing and religious extremeists. It seems that the lop-sided politics of late, had just gotten under his skin, and he is compelled to offer an opposing view, and it is is weighted to an extreme, to bring the view back into balance. If more of the more moderate liberals would speak up from time-to-time, like cigarprimate has been doing lately, then maybe Rick would not be going over the top all the time.

Errr, I was referring to Snowwolf, but your synopsis, Moreno, was good too...made me sit and thinks...