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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2004, 6:29 PM EST
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the newly elected president, unless speculation that the rigged electronic voting machines played a major part in the election, the former governer of texas, who under his watch over 150 executions took place, with no examination or interest by the governer as to whether any of the doomed should have clemency because of judicial misconduct, or in ability of the doomed to even understand what was happening, the same person, who under his watch allowed over 1,000 US soldiers to be killed and perhaps 10 times that many innocent civilians to be killed, has recently had either a burst of conscience, highly unlikely, or has decided he needed some capital for his eventual meeting directly with his maker, decided to grant a pardon to the current thanksgiving turkey, and saved it from execution.
usahog Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2004, 6:41 PM EST
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Hey Look Everybody...... RICKS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WB Rick.. did ya win? LOL

Hog

JonR Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2004, 7:15 PM EST
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Yo Rick:

Hmmm, let ms see if I can interpret what you just said. I think what your trying to say is that "OUR" Glorious Leader the Honorable George W. Bush has been elected (by mandate) to serve FOUR (4) more years as "OUR" President.

JonR

Ps; I feel sorry for you wasting your vote on that POS kerry, but at least you voted in this election, hmmm or did you.
SteveS Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2004, 7:42 PM EST
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I understand that in issuing the pardon, the President joked about a movie that'd been made entitled "Farenheit 350 for about 10 minutes per pound" ...
bloody spaniard Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2004, 7:42 PM EST
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Great to see you brother Rick.

The children of the corn have missed your taunts.

Dubya has been all over the map.
One minute raising the debt ceiling while he cuts veteran's benefits and other programs...
Another minute hoping G-D "blesses Arafat's soul"...
Yet another, making sure that our boys fight a politically-correct war against that "great religion", Islam, by forbidding direct bombing of mosques and the carpet- bombing of areas inhabited by terrorists--risking American lives unnecessarily.
Also, leaving our borders open just so he doesn't alienate a new source of votes. He will be partially responsible for the next major tragedy because he is not doing enough to stem the mass influx of terrorists entering the country.
Lastly, praising Clinton as a "man of compassion", etc. at the opening of the new library of infamy.

He is an odd man. A liberal pretending to be otherwise.

His name will live on in infamy just as slick willie's has.

Welcome back Rick. I may not agree with you all of the time, but IMO, you can be the voice of reason in this forest of noise.

blood
eleltea Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2004, 8:30 PM EST
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Bl. Sp.: Vitriol=reason? Can't agree with that, but it did get so dull around here I almost posted a Bush be Bad thread myself just to fill the void.
jackconrad Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Nov 18 2004, 8:34 PM EST
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Rick was that a shortened visit ?
drnos Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 5:23 AM EST
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Glad to see you're back, Rick. The board is definitely better for having your posts.

But, bro, can you throw in a period from time to time?

TIA . . .
bloody spaniard Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 5:27 AM EST
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It's been many years since Rick had a period...
pabloescabar Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 5:41 AM EST
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Shalom Rick, Thank you...
usahog Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 6:03 AM EST
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"It's been many years since Rick had a period..."

Blood, there are many here who would beg to differ with you on that one ;0)

Hog
AVB Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 6:25 AM EST
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3% = narrow victory. Just try to remember that when the word "mandate" enters your thought process.

Not that it matters, but IMO you need to get above the 10% range before mandate can even think of being used i.e. Reagan 1984 and Nixon 1972 for example.
PMoreno349 Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 6:46 AM EST
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my earlier thesis supported in this thread... you conservatives (children of the corn?? LMAO... wait, BS you weren't refering to everyone here were you?) would be bored out of your gord if Rick weren't stirring things up.

Rick... I for one, am happy that Bush pardoned the turkey, and frankly, as a bird-lover yourself, I am surprised that you are not applauding his actions.
tailgater Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 9:20 AM EST
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AVB,
The "mandate" is not in reference to the 3% margin of victory.
It's also the added influx of republican members to the Congress.
It's hard to argue that the country has spoken, loud and clear. The fact that the liberal left refuse to recognize it does little to change the facts.

Just ask Daschle....
Charlie Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 10:58 AM EST
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Rick,
Did you loose all your nickles and quarters in Vegas or what?

Guess you will continue to rag on the President daily, which is really entertaining!

Charlie
bud451 Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 11:18 AM EST
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Yea Charlie....he lost all his sense ;]
CWFoster Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 8:18 PM EST
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'Gater, would you be referring to Tom "would you like fries with that" Daschle?
jackconrad Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 9:32 PM EST
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Bush pardoned a Turkey,Clinton pardoned Snakes and rats!!
AVB Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2004, 4:07 AM EST
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"tailgater Date: 11/19/2004 02:20 PM Reply
AVB,
The "mandate" is not in reference to the 3% margin of victory. It's also the added influx of republican members to the Congress. It's hard to argue that the country has spoken, loud and clear. The fact that the liberal left refuse to recognize it does little to change the facts."

If you look at the facts it is still 3-4%. The Senate changed by 4, there are 100 Senators, you figure it out. The house changed by 3 out of 435, not even 1%. The country did speak and fairly loudy based on turnout but it wasn't and isn't all that clear.

So if the "mandate" wasn't in reference to the 3% margin of victory it can therefore be said it can't be because of a 3% change in the House and Senate, just where does the "mandate" come from then? The answer is that there is no mandate and it is more wishfull thinking and spin then anything else.

In a representative democracy the people with 51% really need to pay attention to the other 49% or the tables will soon be turned. History does seem to point this out.
JonR Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2004, 4:31 AM EST
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Yo AVB:

51% = WINNERS

49% = losers

For sake of argument, me and you are playing poker and I win all your money, Me = WINNER...You = loser, are you trying to tell me I should listen to your advice on how to spend my winnings, your a loser, remember.

JonR

AVB Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2004, 4:44 AM EST
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The problem Jon is that the point was on mandate, since you obvously don't understand anything you say is meaningless.
JonR Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2004, 5:30 AM EST
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Yo AVB:

Since you don't understand the meaning of "Mandate", maybe this will help:

Mandate: noun

an authorization to act given to a representative (accepted the mandate of the people).

JonR

I try try try to help educate you loser libs, do I get a thank you, Nooooooooooo, Just the same old whining crapola.
bloody spaniard Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2004, 5:55 AM EST
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IMHO,AVB, if it wasn't a "mandate", it was still a resounding victory for the Republicans across the board. Even vile Carville & the lightbulb- headed Begala accept it.

Take it from a guy who voted for Kerry.
tailgater Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2004, 9:45 AM EST
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AVB,
please don't skew your "facts" to make your point.
There were only 34 senate seats up for re-election in 2004. The net change of 4 is over 10%.
You can look up the House results yourself, but you get my point.
Either way, of the three federal entities that make up our government, ALL THREE gained republican support.

If that isn't a "mandate", then this country will NEVER have one.

AVB Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2004, 9:50 AM EST
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It looks like your idea of what resounding and mandate are different than mine. As I said previously, look at Nixon '72 or Reagan '84 (both of whom I voted for) for mandates and resounding victories.

Look at history for how well other "wartime" Presidents did and you'll see that W is not the leader some of you think he is. Or at least he didn't convince the people as well as previous Presidents.

JonR Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Nov 20 2004, 5:59 PM EST
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Yo AVB:

Since you "STILL" don't understand the meaning of "MANDATE", maybe this will help again !!!!!!!!!!!!

MANDATE: noun

an authorization to act given to a representative (accepted the mandate of the PEOPLE).

JonR


RICKAMAVEN Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2004, 8:29 PM EST
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drnos

i'm a comma man myself, but just for you,
.........................................period.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2004, 8:30 PM EST
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eleltea

isn't vitriol the stuff barbers used to put on your hair?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2004, 8:32 PM EST
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jackconrad

as long as they are both animal lovers.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2004, 8:34 PM EST
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JonR

with your winnings, you should be buying gold futures.
barryneedleman Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Nov 24 2004, 4:05 PM EST
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To me a mandate is when one party has complete control of the executive and legislative branches - it is close but not there. The Dems still can successfully fillibuster. There is still a need for compromise.

That being said, the Dems have some severe problems courting a big portion of the voting population. If they want to regain power there message will need to be more inclusive in order to gain back the centrist vote.

EI Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Nov 26 2004, 5:12 AM EST
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Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
JonR Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Nov 26 2004, 8:47 AM EST
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yo...psssst...psssst... "IT'S A MANDATE" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

JonR
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