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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2010, 7:56 AM EST
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
the republicans and the democrats, the people who are spineless and ball-less agreed on a tax cut
for everyone almost all of which went to the rich because the democrats have, as i said no balls or
spines and it was supposed to last ten years, LOL at the democrats stupidity or lack of gonads.

the democrats want to continue the tax cuts for 98% of the people, the republicans want to
include tax incentives for the upper 2 % because they are the job makers


“The real number for jobs lost during the bush administration time in office is 13,360,000 Jobs
LOST!” (see chart jobs lost during the bush and obama administrations on picture post.

how does one justify giving the job makers new tax incentives with the loss of 13,000,000 during
the time they had the tax beak.
HockeyDad Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2010, 8:13 AM EST
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First, your cut-n-paste left out the chart.




The fundamental question is does the government know best or people know best as to how to spend their money.

Bush gave consumers tax rebates to increase consumer spending and save the economy. It failed.
Obama created a massive stimulus package to fund government jobs. It failed.

During this entire span of time, the Bush tax cuts were still in effect. Do we think removing money from consumers by eliminating the Bush tax cuts will increase spending and help the economy? Only if the government can spend it better than the actual wage earners.

The tax cuts definitely affect small businesses and S-corporations but not really huge multinationals. If you take more money from a business via taxes, will they:

A. Increase prices.
B. Cut costs including staff and misc spending
C. Do nothing and eat it and potentially lose profitability
D. Hire more people to process the new taxation paperwork thus creating jobs

Using Obamalogic on saving or creating 3,000,000 jobs, had the Bush tax cuts been eliminated in 2007, businesses would have eliminated 26,485,000 jobs instead of 13,000,000 so, in fact, the Bush tax cuts saved 13 million jobs in the last two years of his term in office.
snowwolf777 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2010, 8:37 AM EST
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Typically the drum beats to pound taxes to the moon come from the zero liability so-called tax payers who - after they file their short form every year - get 100% of what they paid back. And for a lot of them, an "earned income credit", which of course they didn't really earn. They're just taking an extra shovel full out of the tax bin beyond what they paid in. I'm surprised this form of socialism has lasted as long as it has. Hell, I didn't even know EIC existed until I heard a woman in a store talking about it 10 years ago.

And just to save someone the copy and paste time, I know there are 40 millionaires who have volunteered to pay higher taxes. Isn't that special? That means there are roughly 7.8 million millionaires (2009 numbers) who DIIDN'T ask to pay higher taxes.

And for those 40 who do want to pay higher taxes, they don't need to do it by government mandate. They can write a check today to the IRS and send it in. Then send a note to Yabadoo News and PMSNBC with a photocopy of the $1 million check they voluntarily poured down a rathole. That'll impress everyone.

Applause

HockeyDad Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2010, 10:43 AM EST
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snowwolf777 wrote:
Typically the drum beats to pound taxes to the moon come from the zero liability so-called tax payers



Logically it makes perfect sense that they do this. If the government coffers are larger, the odds are greater that the money will be redistributed to buy votes rather than put towards balancing budgets and paying down debt.
jackconrad Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2010, 11:43 AM EST
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In reality if you keep givin gall the jobs to other countries someday they will all be gone and then we can all go on welfare and smoke and drink all the time !
wheelrite Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2010, 6:17 PM EST
Joined: 11-01-2006
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Rick,,

When they Tax your SSI and Medicare even more ,then maybe you'll understand.I own a small business.I am a S Corp. I will affected...

But,if someone ( like you) really pays no tax ,why should they care ?

I want MY Money !!!!!!!!!!!!

wheel

over taxed and under appreciated,,,
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2010, 6:49 PM EST
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Posts: 98,601
wheelrite wrote:

over taxed and under appreciated,,,




Pedro loves you....Mellow
wheelrite Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2010, 7:01 PM EST
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Posts: 50,119
DrafterX wrote:
Pedro loves you....Mellow


Pedro is one of the hardest working people I've ever known.
He is honest ,reliable and trust worthy.Unlike a commie Senior Citizen we all know,Pedro expects nobody to provide for his living.
I kid about Pedro but I do admire his work ethic...


wheel,
jpotts Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Nov 23 2010, 10:43 PM EST
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Posts: 28,811
wheelrite wrote:
Rick,,

When they Tax your SSI and Medicare even more ,then maybe you'll understand.I own a small business.I am a S Corp. I will affected...

But,if someone ( like you) really pays no tax ,why should they care ?

I want MY Money !!!!!!!!!!!!

wheel

over taxed and under appreciated,,,


To be honest wheel, Rick doesn't really care if you're unemployed and starving. Just so long as he gets his, and that you don't get yours.

That's how most liberals are.
dsmokers Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Nov 24 2010, 3:56 AM EST
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What a moronic thing to say. Dude, that's not just ignorant, it's literally something only a moron would say. Your other posts pretty much are all full of 8th grade foolishness as well. What are you, like 14?
Lumpa Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Nov 24 2010, 10:55 AM EST
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Remember when Laverne or Shirley woudl say something like "that's just disgusting and stupid" and then Squiggy would burst through the door and say "Hello"?
dsmokers wrote:

how can you trust anything or anyone who's sole purpose is to get you to spend your money (or MINE in the case of your free electric scooter or medicaid paid blood sugar counter for your fat lazy white bum)?
HockeyDad Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Nov 24 2010, 10:57 AM EST
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Milwaukee outrage!
daveincincy Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Nov 24 2010, 12:45 PM EST
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We're gonna do it!
Give us any chance, we'll take it.
Give us any rule, we'll break it.
We're gonna make our dreams come true.
Doin' it our way.
Nothin's gonna turn us back now,
Straight ahead and on the track now.
We're gonna make our dreams come true,
Doin' it our way.
There is nothing we won't try,
Never heard the word impossible.
This time there's no stopping us.
We're gonna do it.
On your mark, get set, and go now,
Got a dream and we just know now,
We're gonna make our dream come true.
And we'll do it our way, yes our way.
Make all our dreams come true,
And do it our way, yes our way,
Make all our dreams come true
For me and you.

....is what the dems were singing prior to the November elections.
donutboy2000 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Nov 24 2010, 8:25 PM EST
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Posts: 25,000
dsmokers wrote:
What a moronic thing to say. Dude, that's not just ignorant, it's literally something only a moron would say. Your other posts pretty much are all full of 8th grade foolishness as well. What are you, like 14?



Brilliant retort Jade!

LOL!!!!
dpnewell Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Nov 24 2010, 11:03 PM EST
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Wow, DS, what a righteous retort. You’re my hero dude. (Once again, laughing my arse off at the hilarious liberal).
jpotts Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Nov 26 2010, 6:40 PM EST
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dsmokers wrote:
What a moronic thing to say. Dude, that's not just ignorant, it's literally something only a moron would say. Your other posts pretty much are all full of 8th grade foolishness as well. What are you, like 14?


Actually, Rickamaven is much older than 14. But I agree, he is a moron.
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