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Do You Give A Sh*t About The Murdered DEA Agent in Mexico?
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CigarSmoker Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 2:38 PM EST
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It's to bad and I feel bad for his family, but does this really surprise anyone that this happened? We deserve anything they do to our citizens or law enforcement agents, because we are to scared to fight back. I love how the law enforcement agents now want to do something (which we won't), but yet when U.S citizens such as the old lady shot in the back of the head last month or the guy shot in the head on a jet ski it wasn't such a big deal then. Go google "zeta murders" and look at some of the images.
CigarSmoker Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 2:41 PM EST
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Here are a couple cute pics that can be used on greeting cards: Oh yeah these are NSFW

http://morrisonworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Zeta-drug-Gang-500x333.jpg

http://morrisonworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Mexico-murders-by-Zeta-gang-members.jpg

http://morrisonworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Mexico-the-work-of-Los-Zeta.jpg
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 2:55 PM EST
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CigarSmoker wrote:
We deserve anything they do to our citizens or law enforcement agents, because we are to scared to fight back.




seems a little harsh.... Mellow
CigarSmoker Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 2:57 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
seems a little harsh.... Mellow


You think? Do a little research on what is really happening south of the border, and how little we are doing to stop it.
HockeyDad Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:02 PM EST
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Isn't "south of the border" a different country? Are you calling for a military invasion?
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:03 PM EST
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I agree that it's a bad situation down there. I have no plans to travel there but it would suck for someone to tell me I deserve to die or get hurt if I did... The DEA agent was doing his job for God sake...
CigarSmoker Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:05 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Isn't "south of the border" a different country? Are you calling for a military invasion?


I'm not calling for an "invasion", but a little "special op" help would end a lot of this.
HockeyDad Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:12 PM EST
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CigarSmoker wrote:
I'm not calling for an "invasion", but a little "special op" help would end a lot of this.



Right. A quiet invasion in the middle of a narco war. Do we have a cap on the acceptable number of US casualties?

Build a wall....fine. Cut off the drug flow and the money from American dopeheads....fine. Keep our troops out of that rat hole.
Papachristou Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:14 PM EST
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it was an ICE agent i thought? although im not suprised by it, yes i most certainly give several **** about an american murdered in cold blood, especially one who was fighting to protect us. i agree we are acting like pansies about everything but that doesnt mean one of our citizens death is worth any less. and yes, there have been several if not many americans murdered in cold blood in recent times but how does that make you not care about a federal agent doing his job there?
CigarSmoker Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:17 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Right. A quiet invasion in the middle of a narco war. Do we have a cap on the acceptable number of US casualties?

Build a wall....fine. Cut off the drug flow and the money from American dopeheads....fine. Keep our troops out of that rat hole.



I think you underestimate the capabilities of our special forces.
tailgater Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:22 PM EST
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cigarsmoker,
perhaps you'd like to volunteer?

Those nasty pics you linked prove one thing loud and clear:
Build the Wall.
HockeyDad Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:26 PM EST
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CigarSmoker wrote:
I think you underestimate the capabilities of our special forces.



If by "underestimate" you mean I don't think our special forces can go into to Mexico, stop a multi-year drug war that has corruption levels throughout the entire government and law enforcement, suffer no casualties, and be home for dinner......yes I underestimate our special forces.

Sound a little too much like too many Chuck Norris movies on Netflix.
CigarSmoker Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:27 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
cigarsmoker,
perhaps you'd like to volunteer?

Those nasty pics you linked prove one thing loud and clear:
Build the Wall.




I served my time and if I could have done that work I would have loved to. I now only take good care of my own family and sit back and watch the rest of it fall to crap.
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:29 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:

Sound a little too much like too many Chuck Norris movies on Netflix.




I think that was Steven Sagal... (who runs like a girl BTW)...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:30 PM EST
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I repeat...

LANDMINES,PREDATOR DRONES & GUN TURRETS
HockeyDad Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:35 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I think that was Steven Sagal... (who runs like a girl BTW)...



Yeah but he took back control of an entire battleship!

Maybe he could go to Ciudad Juarez with Chuck Norris.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:38 PM EST
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Send in...THE EXPENDABLES!!!!

horse
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#18 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:40 PM EST
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The EXPENDABLES II - Vacation In Meh-He-Co
HockeyDad Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:41 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Send in...THE EXPENDABLES!!!!

horse




At least I wouldn't care if there were any casualties.
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:41 PM EST
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Issue narco terrorist hunting permits to southern US rednecks....clean up a bit and help pay down the national debt with the revenue from the permits.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:50 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
At least I wouldn't care if there were any casualties.



You're ah potty pooper!whip
DrMaddVibe Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:52 PM EST
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We could always send in Mr. Heisenberg too.

He always mops up and doesn't take any crap from those south of the border types.
HockeyDad Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 3:56 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
You're ah potty pooper!whip



Well......they were expendable!
teedubbya Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 5:58 PM EST
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I worry and am saddened by the loss of human life.

But the upside is since he is a federal employee at least his services will not be missed. He should be alive, just unemployed (working for the government = being on the welfare which at least is not as bad as catching the gay)
DrafterX Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 6:00 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:

But the upside is since he is a federal employee at least his services will not be missed. He should be alive, just unemployed (working for the government = being on the welfare which at least is not as bad as catching the gay)




true... true.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 6:02 PM EST
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By the way, is cigarsmokers avatar a recent picture of Charlie?
DrafterX Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Feb 17 2011, 6:03 PM EST
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Think maybe....
rasdas Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Feb 18 2011, 12:20 PM EST
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I actually do find it very sad and do give a sheeet...

Am sure these two were targeted specifically for who they were and what they do...the other American casualties during this turf-war seemed to fall into two categories: 1. Wrong place and wrong time... 2. Part of the drug war...

This isnt something that can be solved nicely and in a timely manner...its the whole country...and you take one out, and there are 10 waiting to take their spot...there is entirely too much money at stake and no real "fear of punishment" as the laws in Mexico almost assure they are set free (except for real high profile cartel leaders who are extradited (if and when they are caught))...

Again, bad situation with no real valid solutions up to now...

Dont see it spilling across the borders (at least not at a high rate...more isolated incidences then a spill-over)...
Stinkdyr Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Feb 18 2011, 1:51 PM EST
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Perhaps it is time to end prohibition.

Legalize drugs---eliminate the black market.
HockeyDad Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Feb 18 2011, 2:07 PM EST
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Legalizing drugs is a surrender monkey solution.

The drug gang members aren't just going to quit and go back to college and get computer science degrees!
rasdas Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Feb 18 2011, 2:15 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Legalizing drugs is a surrender monkey solution.

The drug gang members aren't just going to quit and go back to college and get computer science degrees!


Exactly...
DrafterX Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Feb 18 2011, 2:15 PM EST
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maybe we can put them on the welfare... Mellow
rasdas Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Feb 18 2011, 2:30 PM EST
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Thing no one seems to remember is that this goes on every so many years in mexico...yeah, you have times of calm (when there is a clear drug leader...

80's...think of the times of Rafael Caro Quintero (calm for many years till the death of Enrique Camarena)..

90's think when Amado Carrillo "El Señor de Los Cielos" (calm up to his death and then violent drug war)...

00's...think Chapo Guzman...all calm then they go kill his son and all hell breaks loose...

Again, as soon as a clear leader emerges, things will go back to normal...

Some interesting reading material:

1. Down by the River : Drugs, Money, Murder, and Family by Charles Bowden
2. Dirty Dealing: Drug Smuggling on the Mexican Border and the Assassination of a Federal Judge--An American Parable by Gary Cartwright

Again, these books deal with the Juarez drug wars and they are talking about stories from 10 - 20 years ago...
HockeyDad Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Feb 18 2011, 3:26 PM EST
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Really it is just a problem of too many cooks in the kitchen right now.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#35 Posted: Sat, Feb 19 2011, 8:30 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Really it is just a problem of too many cooks in the kitchen right now.


I can't wait for the new season of Breaking Bad
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