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Obama Policy Spanked by Niall Ferguson Professor of History at Harvard
Gene363 Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,862
“Morning Joe” Crew Left Shell-Shocked by Professor’s Dismantling of Obama Foreign Policy on Egypt – Video 2/14/11

http://freedomslighthouse.net/2011/02/15/morning-joe-crew-left-shell-shocked-by-professors-dismantling-of-obama-foreign-policy-on-egypt-video-21411/

I am surprised ABC didn't cut this guy off for speaking the truth.

"I think the execution during the crisis was ‘flip followed by flop followed by flip.’ . . . . It was a shambles. . . . . Right now we have a six-month period of military rule. Right now, we have as far as I can see, virtually no organization on the part of secular democrats. The only organized opposition force in Egyptian politics right now is the Muslim Brotherhood. Now, if you look closely at what the Muslim Brotherhood stands for, it is the imposition and enforcement of Sharia Law and the restoration of the Caliphate. Anybody who counts this as a major breakthrough for United States Foreign Policy hasn’t got a clue about what happens in the wake of a revolution like this. It’s far too early to say this is a triumph. On the contrary, the risks are extremely high that between now and the end of the year, the Muslim Brotherhood will get into power, and then we will be staring at something in its magnitude to 1979 in Iran. . . . . .

President Obama is one of the least experienced men in terms of Foreign Policy to ever occupy the White House. And yet, he has advisers around him who are, frankly, second, if not third-rate. . . . . Some of us said this when he ran for election that it was a huge risk to put somebody with that kind of inexperience into a position like Commander-in-Chief of the United States. I think what we’re seeing unfold in Egypt reveals the truth of that statement. . . . .

I do think the President regards making touchy-feely speeches as a substitute for having a strategy, and I want to emphasize the risks that are currently being run in that region. If you look at history – and I’m a historian – most revolutions lead not to happy-clappy democracies, but to periods of internal turmoil, often to periods of terror, and they also lead to external aggression, because the simplest way to mobilize people in a relatively poor, and not very well educated country like Egypt, is to point to the alleged enemy within, and then of course to the enemy abroad. . . . .

As far as I can see, Obama’s strategic concept is, ‘I’m not George W. Bush – love me.’ . . . .

Remember what was said incidentally in that Cairo Speech going back to 2009. Mr. Obama said that in his view, ‘Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance.’ Well, we’ll just see how peaceful and tolerant the Muslim Brotherhood is if it is successful in getting into power in the months ahead. I think those words will come back to haunt Mr. Obama"
Kawak Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 11-26-2007
Posts: 4,025
I think you meant PMSNBC for the station. It's owned by rickamaven corp.

That hack on the left did everything she could do or is paid to protect dear leader. This channel is a joke.
Gene363 Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,862
Kawak wrote:
I think you meant PMSNBC for the station. It's owned by rickamaven corp.

That hack on the left did everything she could do or is paid to protect dear leader. This channel is a joke.


It was funny to watch them fumbling around to defend Obama, had to dispute the facts.
donutboy2000 Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 11-20-2001
Posts: 25,000
SHARIA LAW NOW!
rfenst Offline
#5 Posted:
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Posts: 39,403
If Egyptians freely elects the Muslim Brotherhood on a platform on Sharia Law and restoration of the caliphate, isn't that still democracy?


What about the old saying: "Be careful what you ask for; you just might get it"?
HockeyDad Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,187
rfenst wrote:
If Egyptians freely elects the Muslim Brotherhood on a platform on Sharia Law and restoration of the caliphate, isn't that still democracy?


What about the old saying: "Be careful what you ask for; you just might get it"?




Yes, that is democracy in action and wonderful!

(We screamed for elections in Gaza and got Hamas. We screamed for elections in Lebanon and now Hezbollah is in the majority. Some still like to say Israel is the only democracy in the region but it produced Netanyahu.)

One of these days we're going to realize that democracy isn't all it's cracked up to be! Democracy in Libya has a heck of a lot more chance of producing an Islamic extremist nation that Egypt does.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,541
Gene363 wrote:
President Obama is one of the least experienced men in terms of Foreign Policy to ever occupy the White House. And yet, he has advisers around him who are, frankly, second, if not third-rate. . . . . Some of us said this when he ran for election that it was a huge risk to put somebody with that kind of inexperience into a position like Commander-in-Chief of the United States. I think what we’re seeing unfold in Egypt reveals the truth of that statement. . . . .

I do think the President regards making touchy-feely speeches as a substitute for having a strategy, and I want to emphasize the risks that are currently being run in that region. If you look at history – and I’m a historian – most revolutions lead not to happy-clappy democracies, but to periods of internal turmoil, often to periods of terror, and they also lead to external aggression, because the simplest way to mobilize people in a relatively poor, and not very well educated country like Egypt, is to point to the alleged enemy within, and then of course to the enemy abroad. . . . .

As far as I can see, Obama’s strategic concept is, ‘I’m not George W. Bush – love me.’ . . . .

Remember what was said incidentally in that Cairo Speech going back to 2009. Mr. Obama said that in his view, ‘Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance.’ Well, we’ll just see how peaceful and tolerant the Muslim Brotherhood is if it is successful in getting into power in the months ahead. I think those words will come back to haunt Mr. Obama"



I was one of them!!!!!
DrafterX Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,574
I heard he was the anti-christ... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,541
I already called top bunk.

You're NOT getting it!
daveincincy Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2006
Posts: 20,033
rfenst wrote:
If Egyptians freely elects the Muslim Brotherhood on a platform on Sharia Law and restoration of the caliphate, isn't that still democracy?


What about the old saying: "Be careful what you ask for; you just might get it"?



In Obama's case I think the phrase "keep your words well seasoned," would be more appropriate...because eventually he will have to eat them. Liar
MACS Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,858
rfenst wrote:
If Egyptians freely elects the Muslim Brotherhood on a platform on Sharia Law and restoration of the caliphate, isn't that still democracy?


What about the old saying: "Be careful what you ask for; you just might get it"?

Yup. And we're stuck with the tool we have in office for at least 3 more years. Gas is more expensive, we're deeper in debt to China than we already were and the troops are STILL in Iraq and Afghanistan.

BRILLIANT!!Liar

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
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