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Illiniois gun owners unmasked!
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itsawaldo Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Mar 1 2011, 6:23 PM EST
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SPRINGFIELD -- The names of people authorized to own guns in Illinois is public information that the state must disclose, according to a ruling from the office of Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan.

The Illinois State Police determines who gets Firearm Owners Identification cards but has always kept the information confidential.

Madigan's public access counselor issued a letter Monday night rejecting state police arguments that releasing the information is an unwarranted invasion of privacy prohibited by the state public-records law or that its disclosure would automatically endanger the lives of gun owners or those who don't have firearms.

Despite the decree, the names likely won't be uncloaked soon. A state police lawyer indicated earlier the agency planned to take to court a contrary ruling from Madigan's office. And Republican lawmakers have filed legislation to make names permanently private.
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Mar 1 2011, 6:51 PM EST
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Same sh*t here in Oregon but with concealed carry license holders.....they can't outlaw guns so use Sal Alinski's rules for radicals and find something or someone to marginalize.
DadZilla3 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Mar 1 2011, 7:53 PM EST
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It's only fair then that they also publicize a list of people who don't own guns.
MCAddict Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011, 11:18 AM EST
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All this and Obama has nominated super anti-gun BATFE Chicago district chief Andrew Traver to head-up the BATFE in toto. And once again, the senate will give this admin a pass and appoint him.Gonz
HockeyDad Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011, 11:24 AM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:
It's only fair then that they also publicize a list of people who don't own guns.



You can figure it out since it is just an inverse!

I call this this zombie apocalypse target list.
Stinkdyr Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011, 12:40 PM EST
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You little people don't need guns.......the police will protect you.


Dancing
rfenst Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011, 3:44 PM EST
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itsawaldo wrote:
SPRINGFIELD -- The names of people authorized to own guns in Illinois is public information that the state must disclose, according to a ruling from the office of Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan.

The Illinois State Police determines who gets Firearm Owners Identification cards but has always kept the information confidential.

Madigan's public access counselor issued a letter Monday night rejecting state police arguments that releasing the information is an unwarranted invasion of privacy prohibited by the state public-records law or that its disclosure would automatically endanger the lives of gun owners or those who don't have firearms.

Despite the decree, the names likely won't be uncloaked soon. A state police lawyer indicated earlier the agency planned to take to court a contrary ruling from Madigan's office. And Republican lawmakers have filed legislation to make names permanently private.



It is a constitutional right. Bad policy unless gun owners were advised of risk of public records disclosure. Stop-gap law will likely be deemed ex-post facto.
DadZilla3 Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011, 4:39 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
You can figure it out since it is just an inverse!

I call this this zombie apocalypse target list.


I think a tastefully done 'GUN FREE HOME' sign in the front yard might bring 'em in quite nicely.
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011, 4:51 PM EST
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Just got some old stuff my dearly departed great grandma had.
One card is a target with the words "gun free home" on it with anti connie stuff on the back. The other business card is for Joeseph Stalin...funny sh*t...should get that out tonight and post it.
jojoc Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011, 8:36 PM EST
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itsawaldo wrote:
SPRINGFIELD -- The names of people authorized to own guns in Illinois is public information that the state must disclose, according to a ruling from the office of Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan.

The Illinois State Police determines who gets Firearm Owners Identification cards but has always kept the information confidential.

Madigan's public access counselor issued a letter Monday night rejecting state police arguments that releasing the information is an unwarranted invasion of privacy prohibited by the state public-records law or that its disclosure would automatically endanger the lives of gun owners or those who don't have firearms.

Despite the decree, the names likely won't be uncloaked soon. A state police lawyer indicated earlier the agency planned to take to court a contrary ruling from Madigan's office. And Republican lawmakers have filed legislation to make names permanently private.



So, in order to legally own a gun in Illinois, do you have to have one of the Identification Cards? Living out in the free wild west, I often forget that there are such crazy laws out there.
skarpachi Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011, 9:49 PM EST
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Ok that is some f*cked up sh*t cause my license picture is on my foid card. Someone gets a hold of that and some other information of me and I'm in a heap of dung. Damn I need to move out of this state.
rfenst Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011, 10:44 PM EST
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skarpachi wrote:
Ok that is some f*cked up sh*t cause my license picture is on my foid card. Someone gets a hold of that and some other information of me and I'm in a heap of dung. Damn I need to move out of this state.


foid?
wheelrite Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011, 10:53 PM EST
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So what ?

I have a concealed carry license.

MAYBE some douche will see I carry a pistol and decide not to mess with me...
ZRX1200 Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Mar 2 2011, 11:22 PM EST
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I open carry.....
Yes bit ches.....that is a pistol.
skarpachi Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Mar 3 2011, 8:26 AM EST
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Firearms Owners ID card = FOID card. Everyone in illinois that has or wants to buy a gun needs to get a card first. Just a way for the state to keep track of who has a firearm.
GD320 Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Mar 7 2011, 10:11 AM EST
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The fact that this will also expose those who DO NOT have a FOID card is helping to generate support for the legislation to keep the list private. Also hope this generates more support for concealed carry bills currently in both the house and senate. The Atty Genl is the daughter of Michael Madigan, the Speaker of the IL House of Rep. (arguably the most powerful politician in the state). He is, of course from Chicago, and has successfully blocked gun legislation favored by downstate for years. Welcome to the dirty game of Il politics.......Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall
Papachristou Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Mar 8 2011, 9:22 AM EST
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who cares, they wont be coming to my house... oh lets check this address, nope he has guns, lets go to his neighbors house
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