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The Wisconsin Nuts Are Going Crazy!!
CigarSmoker Offline
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This is great watching these nuts go crazy!! I say fire every one of them and replace them with people that want to work.
Stinkdyr Offline
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>> MADISON, Wis. – Republicans in the Wisconsin Assembly took the first significant action on their plan to strip collective bargaining rights from most public workers, abruptly passing the measure early Friday morning before sleep-deprived Democrats realized what was happening.

The vote ended three straight days of punishing debate in the Assembly. But the political standoff over the bill — and the monumental protests at the state Capitol against it — appear far from over.

The Assembly's vote sent the bill on to the Senate, but minority Democrats in that house have fled to Illinois to prevent a vote. No one knows when they will return from hiding. Republicans who control the chamber sent state troopers out looking for them at their homes on Thursday, but they turned up nothing. >>


Illiberal lefties are running like rats!

Gonz
dstieger Offline
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I say really punish them by banishing them to Illinois permanently.
DrafterX Offline
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Stinkdyr wrote:
but minority Democrats in that house have fled to Illinois to prevent a vote. No one knows when they will return from hiding. Republicans who control the chamber sent state troopers out looking for them at their homes on Thursday, but they turned up nothing. >>


Gonz




maybe they're out looking for CROS.... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Poor CROS!whip
Papachristou Offline
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CigarSmoker wrote:
This is great watching these nuts go crazy!! I say fire every one of them and replace them with people that want to work.



private industry has made serious layoffs and cutbacks the past few years. public servants get unrealistic retirement and benefits. all this is too little too late though. we have spent ourselves into a whole too big to get out of without painful consequences and as these protests demostrate, we dont want to do that.
HockeyDad Offline
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Layoff the teachers and hire out of work banking and finance people to replace them.

We would have no more problems with the students getting the cover sheets right on their TPS reports.
DadZilla3 Offline
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If there is hope...it lies in the proles.
jojoc Offline
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more than one way to skin a cat:
Providence, Rhode Island, Issues Pink Slips to All Its Teachers
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/16008
DadZilla3 Offline
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jojoc wrote:
more than one way to skin a cat:
Providence, Rhode Island, Issues Pink Slips to All Its Teachers
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/16008

We can always use some border guards in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California.
Of course, their carrying firearms on duty would send an ethnocentric, intolerant and politically insensitive message to our good neighbor to the south, so we'd save a ton of money and score political points with the liberals besides by not arming them.
rfenst Offline
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Republicans who control the chamber sent state troopers out looking for them at their homes on Thursday, but they turned up nothing.



Sending state troopers to legislators' homes concerns me.
frankj1 Offline
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^

please give this some critical thought folks. He is right no matter how you want this to end
HockeyDad Offline
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Probably better to send state troopers than angry citizens who want to impeach.
DadZilla3 Offline
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Duly elected legislators who are obligated to serve the general public abandoning their offices in an effort to support a vocal minority concerns me.
tailgater Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Sending state troopers to legislators' homes concerns me.


First, I agree whole-heartedly.

But we can't pick and choose which actions should outrage us.

The democrats literally left the state instead of doing their civic duty by voting on the bill.
As if closing their eyes and singing "la la la" could make it go away.

If I recall, when the republicans in washington "dared" to vote NO to Obamas healthcare debacle, they were labeled as obstructionists.
Yet the same media outlets make nary a mention of this stunt, and have yet to label them as anything.

I think the Governor should publicly explain why he sent troopers to their homes. And it should be on his record come the next election.
But apart from that, he's not the bad guy here. It's the democrats that are making a mockery of the system by acting like children rather than elected officials.

In my opinion, of course.
HockeyDad Offline
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tailgater wrote:


But we can't pick and choose which actions should outrage us.






Now just wait a minute there.....
HockeyDad Offline
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tailgater wrote:


The democrats literally left the state instead of doing their civic duty by voting on the bill.
As if closing their eyes and singing "la la la" could make it go away.







They have effectively resigned from their public office and should be treated accordingly. But they won't.
Gene363 Offline
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Stinkdyr wrote:
...Republicans who control the chamber sent state troopers out looking for them at their homes on Thursday, but they turned up nothing.

Gonz


I'd bet lobbyists, especially those with fat checkbooks, know exactly where they are located.

They took an oath to server the people, all of them.
TMCTLT Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
They have effectively resigned from their public office and should be treated accordingly. But they won't.




Ding Ding Ding......the Dems here in Indiana pulled the same chit.......they should ALL lose their jobs. And I believe the Gov. was within his Constitutional boundries to do what he did. And yes I'm shocked that they All headed to Illinois to hide!
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CigarSmoker wrote:
This is great watching these nuts go crazy!! I say fire every one of them and replace them with people that want to work.



Illegal aliens will do the work that Americans will not do !
rfenst Offline
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tailgater wrote:
First, I agree whole-heartedly.

But we can't pick and choose which actions should outrage us.

The democrats literally left the state instead of doing their civic duty by voting on the bill.
As if closing their eyes and singing "la la la" could make it go away.

If I recall, when the republicans in washington "dared" to vote NO to Obamas healthcare debacle, they were labeled as obstructionists.
Yet the same media outlets make nary a mention of this stunt, and have yet to label them as anything.

I think the Governor should publicly explain why he sent troopers to their homes. And it should be on his record come the next election.
But apart from that, he's not the bad guy here. It's the democrats that are making a mockery of the system by acting like children rather than elected officials.

In my opinion, of course.



The common law history of sending "the police" to find legislators is not pretty. The usual historical concern is that those in the executive branch, who want to prevent a bill from passing, will simply arrest or detain a legislator long enough to prevent his or her vote on the matter, thereby changing the vote's final outcome. It represents one type of executive meddling with the legislature- a violation of the concept of separation of powers.

The post I commented on indicated that the legislature sent the police, not the governor. This concerns me too! Since when does a typical legislature have the police power of arrest outside of its chamber? I have simply never heard of this before (which doesn't mean it hasn't happened). My take on it is that legislators in the majority could simply use police power to arrest the minority. Not a good idea, in my opinion, no matter how or why that power is used.

As to the missing Democrats, they are behaving like infants and are idiots, no matter what one's opinion on the substantive issue is. Maybe they see their absence as a heightened form of civil disobedience. I don't know. Any legislator in Florida who pulled a stunt like that should, in my opinion, be impeached. Unfortunately, we here in Florida don't have that problem right now. We have a different problem... a single-party, super-majority with a governor of the same party. They are capable of overturning every law ever passed; every vote ever taken and every state supreme court case. Too much power in the hands of too few...

wheelrite Offline
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rfenst wrote:
The common law history of sending "the police" to find legislators is not pretty. The usual historical concern is that those in the executive branch, who want to prevent a bill from passing, will simply arrest or detain a legislator long enough to prevent his or her vote on the matter, thereby changing the vote's final outcome. It represents one type of executive meddling with the legislature- a violation of the concept of separation of powers.

The post I commented on indicated that the legislature sent the police, not the governor. This concerns me too! Since when does a typical legislature have the police power of arrest outside of its chamber? I have simply never heard of this before (which doesn't mean it hasn't happened). My take on it is that legislators in the majority could simply use police power to arrest the minority. Not a good idea, in my opinion, no matter how or why that power is used.

As to the missing Democrats, they are behaving like infants and are idiots, no matter what one's opinion on the substantive issue is. Maybe they see their absence as a heightened form of civil disobedience. I don't know. Any legislator in Florida who pulled a stunt like that should, in my opinion, be impeached. Unfortunately, we here in Florida don't have that problem right now. We have a different problem... a single-party, super-majority with a governor of the same party. They are capable of overturning every law ever passed; every vote ever taken and every state supreme court case. Too much power in the hands of too few...



Elections have consquences.
In this case EXCELLENT consquences !!!

This is a conservative country despite what the Lib media wants you believe...
rfenst Offline
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wheelrite wrote:
Elections have consquences.
In this case EXCELLENT consquences !!!

This is a conservative country despite what the Lib media wants you believe...



Huh?
wheelrite Offline
#24 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Huh?


You talked about the Super Majority of Repubs in FL.
It is a result of an election.Florida is a conservative state except for the commie enclaves of south Florida..

Socialist Liberal ideology is bad for everyone ...
frankj1 Offline
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wheelrite wrote:
You talked about the Super Majority of Repubs in FL.
It is a result of an election.Florida is a conservative state except for the commie enclaves of south Florida..

Socialist Liberal ideology is bad for everyone ...

unless you are a billionaire pro sports franchise owner.

Sorry, thread jack. As you were.
Kawak Offline
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The repubs should have left town when Obycare was being voted on! At least they showed up to vote no!
tailgater Offline
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rfenst wrote:
The common law history of sending "the police" to find legislators is not pretty. The usual historical concern is that those in the executive branch, who want to prevent a bill from passing, will simply arrest or detain a legislator long enough to prevent his or her vote on the matter, thereby changing the vote's final outcome. It represents one type of executive meddling with the legislature- a violation of the concept of separation of powers.

The post I commented on indicated that the legislature sent the police, not the governor. This concerns me too! Since when does a typical legislature have the police power of arrest outside of its chamber? I have simply never heard of this before (which doesn't mean it hasn't happened). My take on it is that legislators in the majority could simply use police power to arrest the minority. Not a good idea, in my opinion, no matter how or why that power is used.

As to the missing Democrats, they are behaving like infants and are idiots, no matter what one's opinion on the substantive issue is. Maybe they see their absence as a heightened form of civil disobedience. I don't know. Any legislator in Florida who pulled a stunt like that should, in my opinion, be impeached. Unfortunately, we here in Florida don't have that problem right now. We have a different problem... a single-party, super-majority with a governor of the same party. They are capable of overturning every law ever passed; every vote ever taken and every state supreme court case. Too much power in the hands of too few...



The historical concern is important, but I don't think it's ever happened in the US, has it?

As for the super majority? You're preaching to the choir. I live in the peoples republic of Massachusetts. Where democrats literally get away with murder.
frankj1 Offline
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I was too young to remember if Sacco and Vanzetti were Democrats. Do Anarchists count as Liberals in MA?

Papachristou Offline
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wheelrite wrote:
Elections have consquences.
In this case EXCELLENT consquences !!!

This is a conservative country despite what the Lib media wants you believe...



it is but for some reason, the vocal minority is able to con the rest of the country to thinking their way of life is normal or you are a gun toting racist nut if you speak against them



edit... i do carry a gun though...... but im not racist or a nut Think
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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wheelrite 24


what is a "commie enclave."


would that be the congressional district of Debbie Wasserman Schultz?

is an enclave like a ghetto?
wheelrite Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
wheelrite 24


what is a "commie enclave."


would that be the congressional district of Debbie Wasserman Schultz?

is an enclave like a ghetto?



sure,why not ?
donutboy2000 Offline
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Commie enclaves are very dusty and need paint.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Are their coffee pots clean??
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