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shenanigans are real in South Texas...
DrafterX Offline
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Texas House Passes Bill Requiring Voters to Show Photo ID

Published March 24, 2011

The Texas House has approved a bill requiring residents to show photo identification before voting amid complaints from Democrats who say it's designed to erect hurdles for poor and minority voters.

The legislation cleared the House 101-48 Wednesday night after more than 11 hours of debate in which Democrats repeatedly tried to derail it.

The measure has sparked anger and partisan bickering ever since Republican Gov. Rick Perry put it on the fast track at the beginning of the legislative session in January. GOP lawmakers say it's necessary to prevent voter fraud. Democrats contend the bill is aimed at poor and minority voters who are less likely to have state-issued identification cards.

Republican lawmakers in several other states are pushing similar legislation this year.

The Texas bill faces a final, perfunctory hurdle in the House. A similar bill passed the Senate, but it faces another vote in that chamber.

Republican Rep. Jose Aliseda, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Mexico, said the bill "just makes common sense" and that electoral shenanigans are real in the South Texas district he represents.

"Americans expect it. Americans want it," he said. "They want to believe their voting system is at least as safe as renting a movie at Blockbuster."

Rep. Marc Veasey, D-Fort Worth, said the bill would undermine the civil rights that minorities gained after years of voter suppression.

"People are willing to turn back the clock ... just so they can win close elections," Veasey said. "If you don't have these forms of identification, your vote is going to be thrown in the garbage."

The legislation, as currently drafted, would require voters to present a valid form of state or federally issued photo identification. A driver's license, personal ID card, military ID, passport or concealed handgun permit would be accepted. Voters who don't have an ID could get one for free from the Texas Department of Public Safety. Voters who could prove they had been victims of identify fraud could would be exempt from the new rules.

Voters without ID could cast a provisional ballot but would have to show one within six days to have their vote counted.

The bill had contained an exemption for elderly voters, but the House stripped it out during deliberations Wednesday.

Democrats had knocked the bill off the floor Monday and they kept raising more parliamentary challenges Wednesday -- to no avail. Then they attempted to soften the bill with amendments adding new forms of ID, such as student identification and employer credentials, but nearly all went down on mostly party-line votes. They slogged through more than 60 amendments, with only a few minor tweaks adopted. Applause broke out when the last amendment came up for debate at about 10:15 p.m. CDT. Closing statements took another hour.

Republicans have been working to pass the voter ID legislation for several years, and Democrats have been fighting it ferociously.

A similar version of the bill has already passed the Senate, and the legislation is deemed likely to get approval during the 2011 session after being shot down during high-intensity debates in recent years. Rep. Dennis Bonnen, the Houston-area Republican who chairs the committee that approved the House version of the bill, said he didn't understand why it had become a partisan issue.

"I have Democrats, Republicans and independents in my district who think people ought to show ID before being allowed to vote," Bonnen said.

At least eight U.S. states have strict photo ID requirements, according to a late 2010 study by the National Conference of State Legislatures. After Republicans picked up strength in the 2010 elections, photo ID bills are working their way through various state legislatures this year, including in Arkansas, Kansas and North Carolina. GOP sponsors say the Texas legislation is modeled after similar laws in Georgia and Indiana.


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teedubbya Offline
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Poor CROS
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I don't understand...why would the Dems want to block this?

Is it because they want a gaping hole for fraud?

They're the first to run to the courthouse to claim fraud when elections don't go their way, and back this?

You have to show id here in Florida. What's the big deal?
DrafterX Offline
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They are upset cause they only get to vote once now.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
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I think there should be literacy tests, along with poll taxes. "backwards is forward and forward is backward" - Anton Lavey
DrMaddVibe Offline
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look at you using that...sacrilege!!!

Instead of support...all I ever got was
Not talking Not talking Not talking Not talking Not talking Not talking

It felt good to use that didn't it?

Yeah...Frying pan
DrafterX Offline
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Confused
cacman Offline
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Showing a photo ID has always been required to vote where I live. Why is Texas just starting to require it now, and why is it a big problem? Should be required in every state!!! Prove you are a legal citizen before you cast you vote.
ZRX1200 Offline
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DMV....look at the D reps comment and that's all you need to know. "They just want to win close elections". I take democrats quotes and apply them to the speaker.
dkeage Offline
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cacman wrote:
Showing a photo ID has always been required to vote where I live. Why is Texas just starting to require it now, and why is it a big problem? Should be required in every state!!! Prove you are a legal citizen before you cast you vote.



I think you answered your own question, no?
cacman Offline
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dkeage wrote:
I think you answered your own question, no?

Nope

cacman wrote:
Showing a photo ID has always been required to vote where I live. Why is Texas just starting to require it now, and why is it a big problem? Should be required in every state!!! Prove you are a legal citizen before you cast you vote.

dkeage Offline
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cacman wrote:
Showing a photo ID has always been required to vote where I live. Why is Texas just starting to require it now, and why is it a big problem? Should be required in every state!!! Prove you are a legal citizen before you cast you vote.



Some people don't want that around here.......that was what I meant......
DrafterX Offline
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'Voters without ID could cast a provisional ballot but would have to show one within six days to have their vote counted.'






Aren't most elections decided with in a day or two or even over night..?? what happens if these people don't show up to verify their identity and they voted for the winner..?? Huh This doens't make much sense to me.. it's not like voting is a pop quiz.. there is plenty of time to prepare if you need to get an ID...

Papachristou Offline
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cacman wrote:
Showing a photo ID has always been required to vote where I live. Why is Texas just starting to require it now, and why is it a big problem? Should be required in every state!!! Prove you are a legal citizen before you cast you vote.


i dont think you have to be a citizen to get a DL?


at any rate, i laughed when i read the part about dems saying low income or minorities are less likely to have a state issued ID. I cant think of any citizen i know that doesnt have a DL or State ID if they have had their DL taken away. only illegals would not have an ID, give me a break lefty! Frying pan
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This is a no-brainer. Every State should require a valid photo ID to reduce voter fraud. I can't believe anyone would think this is a bad idea.

Tell ya what: Those that oppose this should also tell the banks that photo ID's aren't required to access their bank account. I need to increase my net worth and it's beneficial that I can take advantage of the money in their accounts. Banks shouldn't demand ID's for withdrawals from an account......

Sillyness - those who opposed should be voted out of office as quick as possible. This isn't illegal discrimination - it's common sense......
cacman Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Democrats contend the bill is aimed at poor and minority voters who are less likely to have state-issued identification cards.

Can pretty much guarantee every poor and/or minority in my neighborhood has their FREE state-issued ID. They have to have it to collect their from entitlement programs including Welfare, Access Card, and subsidized Section-8 housing. Plus they have to have it to get their Colt 45 and Mad Dog from the liquor store.
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cacman wrote:
Can pretty much guarantee every poor and/or minority in my neighborhood has their FREE state-issued ID. They have to have it to collect their from entitlement programs including Welfare, Access Card, and subsidized Section-8 housing. Plus they have to have it to get their Colt 45 and Mad Dog from the liquor store.





True..... true.... Mellow
Papachristou Offline
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my thoughts exactly..... cant get da colt 45 without da ID mane!
Whistlebritches Offline
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I've never understood the left's argument here........."Oppresses the poor and minorities".


HOW??????????


State issued ID is "FREE".......I say again "FREE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OK lefties........splain this one more time please.
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