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LOOKS LIKE ME AND FISHY AND KIM RAMOS GET CUT OUT OF MEDICARE
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jackconrad Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 8:17 AM EST
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By less than 6 months.


All we have to do is find someone to write a policy on Old people when we retire. Do you think they'll underwite my heart surgery?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 9:26 AM EST
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http://www.generationamerica.org/
bloody spaniard Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 9:54 AM EST
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Jack, two weeks ago I was talking to one of our Canadian suppliers, whose mom (in her 60's) needed emergency AND innovative heart surgery. I believe it had to do with valve replacements. I asked her about the wait, cost, and overall quality of care. She practically gushed at how quickly, effortlessly, and FREE this new procedure was accomplished in record time. Her mom's recovering nicely.

She loves America but is sad as to how we've deteriorated on so many fronts from medical care to immigration just to name a few. She said that much of what we've been told about the Canadian system is hyperbole, anecdotal, and just simply lies. She is mid level management/middle class & has no special inside privileges btw. If her mother had had the same surgery here it would have cost her $250,000+ & possibly not covered by our outrageously expensive plans due to it's innovative nature. She would have lost her house. Sound familiar? She also said that Obamacare is but a drop in the bucket that barely covers anything. Much ado about NOTHING.

I grew up in a physician's household where we despised the term "socialized medicine". However, I pay 3x more in monthly premiums for my company's BC/BS policy with a $5,000 deductible that covers less (no prescription, dental, developmental issues, etc.) than I did 5- 6 years ago for one with a $250 deductible that covered MORE. WTH??? I'm having second thoughts about this pos medical system we call the best in the world... I end up paying much more out of pocket but what happens if I should ever go broke? Medicaid? Is that what we've lowered ourselves to? (pardon ending with a preposition)Speak to the hand
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 10:11 AM EST
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Bloody I have two friends that have Canadian family. Mixed comments is what I got.
One with a hip replacement got treated like it was an elective surgery (it was fractured and took them 6 weeks to operate). Others said the preventative care is great its everything past that that is slow. I do agree about the cost here, but part of the problem is the government insurance that pays so little.
bloody spaniard Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 1:19 PM EST
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You just like your insurance'cause they cover your viagra & Depends.

Me? I've got my saucer ubangi lips to consider. They're excluded unless I work for the Government & they're beginning to sag you know.
ZRX1200 Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 1:32 PM EST
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My employer actually provides a very good plan, so yeah I'm blessed there. I do pay alot for it and I don't utilize it that much either.
bloody spaniard Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 2:14 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
My employer actually provides a very good plan, so yeah I'm blessed there. I do pay alot for it and I don't utilize it that much either.



That's what the rest of us want. BUT we're not allowed to go out of state & get bids for the best plan... Our current system is rife with ineptitude, greed, & corruption. That's why the baby bath water will have to be tossed out along with the "baby" (good coverage like yours). We ALL need good coverage for a host of issues which are becoming epidemic- not just a select few with limousine coverage.
ZRX1200 Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 3:03 PM EST
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I hear ya Bloody...
bloody spaniard Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 3:37 PM EST
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Glad you understand what I mean, bro. There's lots of hard working folks out there that just want a fair shake & are afraid the boom will fall on them when least expected.
rfenst Online
#10 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 3:53 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
We ALL need good coverage for a host of issues .


I agree. Good medical care is terribly expensive I pay $1,800+/month to cover my family with excellent coverage. I hope it won't continue to cost so much, but we all know that it will. Others, who cannot afford good coverage or coverage at all suffer and cost everyone else's care, insurance and taxes to increase. I don't mind paying a little bit in extra taxes to help out others who cannot get coverage or acceptable care. The stories about Canada's system have been mixed over the years. I have heard both good and bad. I don't know what the solution is, but Florida does regulate rates and coverage. Out of state insurers coming in to Florida to increase competition might work, but they should have to got through the same regulatory process as other health insurers. On the other hand, we already have BC/BS, Aetna, Travelers, UnitedHealthcare and several other major insurers. I don't want insurance from some cheaper rinky-dink company that goes belly up or fights the legitimacy of every medical claim. I had covergae like that from Golden Rule20-25 years ago and it sucked. Welcome to the new world order. Buckle up tight. We are going to be on a ride to places Americans never imagined. And, it won't end well.
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#11 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 3:55 PM EST
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the comet will be here soon anyway... Mellow
rfenst Online
#12 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 4:31 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
the comet will be here soon anyway... Mellow



Which one?
bloody spaniard Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 4:36 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Which one?



He ordered some badly needed Comet bathroom cleanser.
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 5:09 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Which one?






Here you go Robert...

bloody spaniard wrote:
Jonesie, I was talking to Rambo about a little publicized comet/star that's headed our way & should be (hopefully) passing by in November. NASA apparently knows about it's gravitational(?) effects but will not go into details in order to avoid panic. It is said that this comet was in a specific alignment with certain stars when the quakes/flooding occurred in New Zealand, Japan, and Chile.

It is also said that this "comet" (actually more of a star or planet) will cause further earthquakes & tsunamis which will strike both of our shores & flood our Mississippi region. A thousand foot high (equivalent to 100 story skyscraper) wall of water will swamp California... run MACS, run... and the upper half of Japan will be submerged a la Atlantis.

We will know more within the year. Stay tuned.
bloody spaniard Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 5:42 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Here you go Robert...


Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Hi.

So how was the Mississippi fisting herf?



You came back cranky. Fisting must not agree with you.Mellow
rfenst Online
#16 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 6:17 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:

Here you go Robert...


bloody spaniard wrote:
Jonesie, I was talking to Rambo about a little publicized comet/star that's headed our way & should be (hopefully) passing by in November. NASA apparently knows about it's gravitational(?) effects but will not go into details in order to avoid panic. It is said that this comet was in a specific alignment with certain stars when the quakes/flooding occurred in New Zealand, Japan, and Chile.

It is also said that this "comet" (actually more of a star or planet) will cause further earthquakes & tsunamis which will strike both of our shores & flood our Mississippi region. A thousand foot high (equivalent to 100 story skyscraper) wall of water will swamp California... run MACS, run... and the upper half of Japan will be submerged a la Atlantis.

We will know more within the year. Stay tuned.


Maybe it's really just something like the Death Star from Star Wars. LOL!
bloody spaniard Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 6:55 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Maybe it's really just something like the Death Star from Star Wars. LOL!



Nah, more like a black hole caused by stellar fisting. lol
rfenst Online
#18 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 8:01 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Nah, more like a black hole caused by stellar fisting. lol



... and with the visualization induced by your retort, this thread deserves to die!
wheelrite Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 9:57 PM EST
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I refuse to get sick...
FuzzNJ Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 10:50 PM EST
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It's great to see some of you come around to my way of thinking.

Peace.
jackconrad Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 11:20 PM EST
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If Liberals had not been stealing my money for the last 5 decades,(jUST TO pISS IT AWAY FOR uNWORTHY CAUSES), tHIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.. i AM THAT GENERATION WHO IS STARTING TO PAY THAT PRICE. AND NO I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THE POWER MAD LIBERALS FOR IT..

DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL WHERE THEY BELONG !!
ZRX1200 Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 11:27 PM EST
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Don't mistake reform for commie care sympathy azzwipe.
Some people don't have snickerdoodles to tip the doorman ...
FuzzNJ Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 11:45 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Don't mistake reform for commie care sympathy azzwipe.
Some people don't have snickerdoodles to tip the doorman ...


Yup, you keep thinking like that while you look at Canada's healthcare system with some jealousy while you and your friends and neighbors are getting screwed in the 'greatest' country on earth. I'm not the enemy bro.
rfenst Online
#24 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011, 7:33 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Don't mistake reform for commie care sympathy azzwipe.
Some people don't have snickerdoodles to tip the doorman ...



What a great way to carry on the discussion.!
Stinkdyr Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011, 7:53 AM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
You just like your insurance'cause they cover your viagra & Depends.

Me? I've got my saucer ubangi lips to consider. They're excluded unless I work for the Government & they're beginning to sag you know.


Bloody needs a lip-lift.........but doesn't want to pay.


Not talking
bloody spaniard Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011, 8:48 AM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Bloody needs a lip-lift.........but doesn't want to pay.
Not talking



LMAO!! Thanks loads, Stink, but I hemorrhage from medical expenses to my kids that are excluded by insurance. In the meantime, homosexuals who willfully engage in dangerous acts get all sorts of free experimental drugs and seniors get cialis/viagra for free as well. We as a society have our priorities in the WRONG place.

Fuzz, you have a way about you. You could pisss folks off even if you handed out gold bullion bars.Frying pan
Stinkdyr Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011, 8:53 AM EST
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The medical industry in USA would cost a whole lot less if the taxpaying slaves would reject the closed shop union AMA and demand free market reform.

But the sheep are still asleeep.

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