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Ron Paul Address The Debt Problem...AGAIN
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Last week, Congress and the administration refused to seriously consider the problem of government spending. Despite the fear-mongering, a government shutdown would not have been as bad as claimed.

It is encouraging that some in Washington seem to be insisting on reduced spending, which is definitely a step in the right direction, but only one step. We have miles to go before we can even come close to a solution, and it will involve completely redefining the role of government in our lives and on the world stage. A compromise was struck at the last minute, but until Democrats agree to rein in entitlement spending, and Republicans back off the blank checks to the military industrial complex, it all amounts to political gamesmanship.

Unfortunately, the compromises always seem to be just the opposite. Instead of the left agreeing to cut social spending and the right agreeing to cut military spending, the right agrees to more welfare and the left agrees to more warfare. In spite of all the rhetoric, we will go deeper in debt, the Fed will print more money, and the value of the dollar will continue to plummet. How long will it be before foreigners stop buying our debt, and hyperinflation arrives? Throughout history, empires have always overextended themselves through conquests and wealth transfers leading to eventual collapse, from the Roman Empire to the Soviet Union. We are headed in the same direction and it seems only the chaos of the collapse of the dollar will stop the spending spree. Arguing over funding for Planned Parenthood and NPR, though important, only shows that leadership in Washington either won’t face reality, or don’t understand how serious the problem is.

Of course, an actual government collapse would create serious problems for many people who have come to depend on government payments for healthcare, retirement income, their children’s education, and even food and housing. However, these so-called entitlement programs are unconstitutional to begin with and have engendered a culture of dependence on wealth transfer payments that is out of control. It concerns me greatly that instead of dealing seriously with our situation, so many in Washington would rather allow the chaos that will ensue when all of the dependent people are suddenly cut off. Better to look reality squarely in the face and tell people the difficult truth that government is simply not capable of managing people’s lives from cradle to grave as was foolishly promised. We face trillions in deficits with any of the budgets under consideration. Keeping those promises is, sadly, just not one of our options in the long run. Better to admit the nanny state is coming to an end and we are no longer working on “compromises” but a transition – to a sustainable way of life, one that respects the constitution, the rule of law and property rights.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux96f8Dz9wM
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Read the book...

http://www.amazon.com/New-Empire-Debt-Financial-Bubble/dp/0470483261/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302695899&sr=8-1

It has pictures and stuff.
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Truth through understanding!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNJKO6Pma40



"Who IS John Galt?"
daveincincy Offline
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All empires eventually come to an end. Whistle
rfenst Offline
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daveincincy wrote:
All empires eventually come to an end. Whistle


Perhaps the most truly profound statement I have ever read on CBID's political threads.
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rfenst wrote:
Perhaps the most truly profound statement I have ever read on CBID's political threads.



It is true, no doubt.

BUT...America's best days are still in front of us!!!

Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan
bloody spaniard Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Perhaps the most truly profound statement I have ever read on CBID's political threads.




negro, please




DMV, if Trump doesn't run, I may waste, er, cast my vote for Paul. Romney and the other retreads don't stand a chance against Obama IMO.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:


BUT...America's best days are still in front of us!!!

Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan






until the comet comes..... Sad
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bloody spaniard wrote:
negro, please




DMV, if Trump doesn't run, I may waste, er, cast my vote for Paul. Romney and the other retreads don't stand a chance against Obama IMO.



Trump is just garnering headlines for publicity sake.

He's no politician. He'd lose money if he took the job and he won't have the ability to "fire" anyone that won't make him look worse!

This is just headline pumping for his tv show ratings or a book he migh be writing and nothing more.

I'm sticking with those that "get it" and have been the constant. Those that understand what made this nation great and perhaps bring her back to a sembalance or modicum of Prosperity but the pain will ensure they're only a 1 termer. I'm fine with that. A visionary that has the ability to see the insanity and proclaim that the "Emperor isn't wearing any clothes" and strip the veils from the sleeping. I don't care what this person looks like...male/female...black/white/yellow/brown/polka-dotted or stripped...young/old as long as there is a PROVEN CONSISTENT TRACK RECORD.

The Primary is when a person like Paul will need every damn vote. The GOP already despises him and tried to relegate him twice before. They want the status quo. THAT'S broken!
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Trump is just garnering headlines for publicity sake.

He's no politician....


That's a good thing, right? Think So he may be a douche with a really bad combover, but I don't think he's dumb...at least not any dumber than any other douche in Washington, and the King Douche himself.
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daveincincy wrote:
That's a good thing, right? Think So he may be a douche with a really bad combover, but I don't think he's dumb...at least not any dumber than any other douche in Washington, and the King Douche himself.



He's not going to take the job.

See it for what it is...a publicity stunt and nothing more.

The liquidation he would have to do for his holdings and the day to day business he conducts...he's NOT running despite what he says...COUNT ON IT!Whistle
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daveincincy wrote:
but I don't think he's dumb....




Prolly not dumb.... but I bet he's no boyscout either... I'm sure he built his estate of the backs of the little dude.. prolly broke seveal in the process.... still can't figure out how someone can get a loan to build a hotel and file bankrupcy on another at the same time... I don't think he's really serious about running... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
Prolly not dumb.... but I bet he's no boyscout either... I'm sure he built his estate of the backs of the little dude.. prolly broke seveal in the process.... still can't figure out how someone can get a loan to build a hotel and file bankrupcy on another at the same time... Mellow




If true, EXCELLENT credentials (IMO) for dealing with despots and corrupt clowns who've been bilking us for years thanks to our worthless, sell-out politicians.


DMV, if he's doing it merely as a PR ploy, shame on him, but at least he's shining a light on Obama's apparent sleaziness. Either way, the electorate has an alternative in him or Paul IF they elect to vote in yet another laughable election...
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
...and strip the veils from the .....


He's French? I thought he was from Texas.


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surely you dont think the republicans are doing anything more serious to address the debt problem? haha!?!?! ok dems want $38 billion in cuts, the repubs wanted $61 billion, hell, put them both together, thats $100 billion in cuts, we are going in debt that much every 25 days!!!!!!!!! we need REAL reductions, not publicity stunts to make voters "THINK" they are doing something.
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but what about the welfare..?? Huh
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The problem is Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and the military.
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DrafterX wrote:
Prolly not dumb.... but I bet he's no boyscout either... I'm sure he built his estate of the backs of the little dude.. prolly broke seveal in the process.... still can't figure out how someone can get a loan to build a hotel and file bankrupcy on another at the same time... I don't think he's really serious about running... Mellow



The name "Trump" is a brand. He doesn't even have to own a building. Someone would probably be willing to pay him [big $$] just to put "Trump" on the building.

From what I've heard, home builders setup different corporations, LLC's, etc for each project. If one goes down, it doesn't affect the other(s). I'm not sure how much truth there is in that. If that's possible, all it says to me is the builder doesn't have much faith in his ability and is planning to fail....and cover his butt at the same time.
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HD, you are right about those as well, but welfare breeding is a fast growing problem in this part of the country. the military especially could be toned down a few notches
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bloody spaniard wrote:
negro, please



HUH?
rfenst Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
.... still can't figure out how someone can get a loan to build a hotel and file bankrupcy on another at the same time... I don't think he's really serious about running... Mellow


Stupid, banks and/or lenders?
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daveincincy wrote:

From what I've heard, home builders setup different corporations, LLC's, etc for each project. If one goes down, it doesn't affect the other(s). I'm not sure how much truth there is in that. If that's possible, all it says to me is the builder doesn't have much faith in his ability and is planning to fail....and cover his butt at the same time.



It is the truth. Corporations are separate entities from each other and the entities and people that own them. One would have to be terribly ill advised to do it any other way with multiple projects or companies. To me, it just taking advantage of every opportunity available in the system. One is at a competitive disadvantage to do otherwise.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvEBgWWjnvI

CAvuto calls her on the BS!!!

When you see someone digging their own grave and they're already so deep that you can't see them from ground level...and you offer to take the shovel away from them and they still dig...start backfilling the hole with them in it.
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