Nicar wrote:That's a good start...
You make statements about letting rationale thinkers reply... and sometimes aren't open to allow it...
Allow it? Anyone can present any argument they want, some are illogical and in the course of the conversation I would think I would be given the courtesy to point that out, just as anyone has and does with what I say, all the time.
Nicar wrote:I already know you don't see how government can kill someone, so of course, you would find many things wrong with this execution.
While I am against the death penalty as a matter of principle, it has nothing to do with the argument presented. It is the same argument I've made regarding other subjects like, for example, the Iraq war, torture and Gitmo.
Nicar wrote:Being in Texas... and having been in past couple years across to a couple of the border towns.. and with the changes to requiring a passport now to go across... I can tell you that it doesn't matter what's done here in the US. in Mexico, you will be treated as they see fit, I have heard many many stories even before these worse times, that depending on areas of travel, you would need to make sure you had money to bribe officials. No, you have to worry about the Federales... the drug runners. It's not safe to travel in Mexico unless you go to the tourist places.. and there, you need to stay there. A lot of money has been loss in the cities by the US border.. so they now are finding other ways. With this person being executed... it will not escalate anything that hasn't already been escalated by means of survival.
Doesn't matter one bit in this case at all. This is the same argument made to justify other violations of international law and treaties that the US has signed. Doesn't matter how much some people in whatever country are, if the country has agreed to abide by a law, it should, period. We can't just disregard it whenever we see fit and expect other countries to abide by the treaties and law. Wouldn't you agree?
Nicar wrote:It is what it is and hasn't made Americans any less at risk in Mexico or any where else. This is more smoke being blown and deflection from what is wrong with the US... the high unemployment... the wrongful ways that people took advantage of mortgages... the near-sighted views of the country that those in office and business have. Lots of companies are looking to go cheaper... they are not worried about profits, they are worried about the increase of their profits to continually increase year after year and not increase their employees wages, but their own overly filled pockets.
So, if there is any bullshit, then it is what big corporations and the government are focusing on, and the bleeding heart nut jobs that want a socialistic society
The analogy I made with mortages had to do with following contracts and obligations. Conservatives were outraged that individuals in this country were not doing it and called it a moral failure. But when the country or state does it, it is somehow ok?
Not sure how corporations, unemployment and socialist societies fit into this conversation.