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Is Banking a form of Rape
pdxstogieman Offline
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The Federal Reserve is a socialist institution re-distributing the wealth of the middle class to the uber rich.

Banks too big to fail are bailed out by the Fed printing large sums of money ultimately taxing the middle and lower classes in the form of inflation. Big bonuses for bankers continue. The uber rich don't give a rat's ass about inflation because their investment income and tax breaks engineered by their paid lackeys in congress are more than the rate of inflation they create.

HockeyDad Offline
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Maybe bankers should get big bonuses. After all, look at all the revenue they brought in from bailout money!
wheelrite Offline
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Kill Whitey !
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HockeyDad wrote:
Maybe bankers should get big bonuses. After all, look at all the revenue they brought in from bailout money!


Great return on their investment in the politicians that approved the bailouts. That's why when they're able to stack the deck the people getting F@cked in the process (at least those aware enough to know they're getting F@cked and don't have Stockholm syndrome get a might peeved. The pitchfork and torch approach is looking more and more appropriate. A few of these guys publicly getting the Ghaddhafi terminal demotion might be good.
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wheelrite wrote:
Kill Whitey !


Off topic. Herman Cain was a director of the KC Federal Reserve. Find another thread to play the race card.
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pdxstogieman wrote:
Great return on their investment in the politicians that approved the bailouts. That's why when they're able to stack the deck the people getting F@cked in the process (at least those aware enough to know they're getting F@cked and don't have Stockholm syndrome get a might peeved. The pitchfork and torch approach is looking more and more appropriate. A few of these guys publicly getting the Ghaddhafi terminal demotion might be good.


easy there...
A few Politicians should be thrown in the dungeon as well,,,
wheelrite Offline
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pdxstogieman wrote:
Off topic. Herman Cain was a director of the KC Federal Reserve. Find another thread to play the race card.


he's not a genuine Black...

pdxstogieman Offline
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wheelrite wrote:
he's not a genuine Black...



Oh please elaborate on that.
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I agree with PDX here.....the big banks are also washing drug money.

I don't recall them buying me dinner, holding my hand or offering to spit on it first.
pdxstogieman Offline
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wheelrite wrote:
easy there...
A few Politicians should be thrown in the dungeon as well,,,


That almost goes without saying, but now that you bring it up, the bi-partisan facilitators of the banker's agenda should be fair game as well.
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pdxstogieman wrote:
That almost goes without saying, but now that you bring it up, the bi-partisan facilitators of the banker's agenda should be fair game as well.


The extent of his knowledge on the subject, and I'm using knowledge loosely here, is that it's Barney Frank and Chris Dodd's fault. The deregulation, bribes and lack of any oversight was fine.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I agree with PDX here.....the big banks are also washing drug money.

I don't recall them buying me dinner, holding my hand or offering to spit on it first.


Join the Tea Party and they'll still make some pretense at foreplay before sliding the salami in, because it's useful to them to keep those susceptible to Stockholm syndrome in check. They've co-opted and now inhabit the exo-skeleton of the tea party otherwise one might see where the tea party and elements of OWS have some philosophical commonality.

The trick for the bankers is to never let the whore and the mistress they're banging at the same time compare notes so they despise each other instead of the banker.

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FuzzNJ wrote:
The extent of his knowledge on the subject, and I'm using knowledge loosely here, is that it's Barney Frank and Chris Dodd's fault. The deregulation, bribes and lack of any oversight was fine.


If anyone thinks either party has their hands clean on this, they're deluded. Banks buy incumbents regardless of party affiliation.
wheelrite Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
The extent of his knowledge on the subject, and I'm using knowledge loosely here, is that it's Barney Frank and Chris Dodd's fault. The deregulation, bribes and lack of any oversight was fine.


don't you have toliets to clean ?
FuzzNJ Offline
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pdxstogieman wrote:
If anyone thinks either party has their hands clean on this, they're deluded. Banks buy incumbents regardless of party affiliation.


Well, you and I know that, wheel and others say they do, but when it comes to details they can only name Democrats that Fox news and Limbaugh mention daily.
FuzzNJ Offline
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wheelrite wrote:
don't you have toliets to clean ?


/yawn
ZRX1200 Offline
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Um don't forget Beck.....


Dodd and Frank are a big piece but far from the only collaborators. Whatever you do don't embrace commin ground though.
wheelrite Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
/yawn


ease up Nancy
FuzzNJ Offline
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wheelrite wrote:
ease up Nancy


Nancy? neat. the whole 'you aren't a man' insult. You 10?

again /yawn.

wheelrite Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Nancy? neat. the whole 'you aren't a man' insult. You 10?

again /yawn.



obviuusly you have PMS today...

I'll call you Pat from now on, not Nancy.It's an androgynous moniker..
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wheelrite wrote:
obviuusly you have PMS today...

I'll call you Pat from now on, not Nancy.It's an androgynous moniker..


What about trying to actually talk about the stuff being posted instead of merely being a tool and just trying to insult people with childish names? Naw, that would make sense, can't do that.
wheelrite Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
What about trying to actually talk about the stuff being posted instead of merely being a tool and just trying to insult people with childish names? Naw, that would make sense, can't do that.


Um,
you started the insults today,not I....

why don't commies have a sense of humor ?
HockeyDad Offline
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So are we outraged at the Federal Reserve or just banks in general? The title says banking but the original post is about the Federal Reserve.

I'm not sure if I should be shaking one fist or two in anger.

wheelrite Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
So are we outraged at the Federal Reserve or just banks in general? The title says banking but the original post is about the Federal Reserve.

I'm not sure if I should be shaking one fist or two in anger.



well,
we should hate the Knights Templar.
they started this whole thing...
FuzzNJ Offline
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wheelrite wrote:
Um,
you started the insults today,not I....

why don't commies have a sense of humor ?


I started the personal insults? wtf
wheelrite Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
The extent of his knowledge on the subject, and I'm using knowledge loosely here, is that it's Barney Frank and Chris Dodd's fault. The deregulation, bribes and lack of any oversight was fine.



see....

you question my knowledge

that hurts,,
HockeyDad Offline
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I would go as far as to say it is outrageous.
FuzzNJ Offline
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wheelrite wrote:
see....

you question my knowledge

that hurts,,


Your standard answer for this is arrest Frank and Dodd or just arrest Frank. That's it. Even though there have been links to stories, studies, reports and timelines about the entire situation. The statement was on topic. You went with toilets and a gay reference 'nancy', nothing on topic.
pdxstogieman Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
So are we outraged at the Federal Reserve or just banks in general? The title says banking but the original post is about the Federal Reserve.

I'm not sure if I should be shaking one fist or two in anger.



Shake both fists. Use whichever is your strong hand for the Fed. Use your off hand for the rest of the banking/financial sector. And please elevate your umbrage level from mere anger to outrage.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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By all means though please take all the time necessary to see how Ron Paul is correct on the Fed.

Anyone read his books yet?


Still want the alphabet soup candidates?

Really think there's a difference?


whip
HockeyDad Offline
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...but the alphabet soup candidates promise us free stuff!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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There's no such thing as a free lunch.

Everyone KNOWS it.


SOMEBODY is picking up the tab.
pdxstogieman Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
There's no such thing as a free lunch.

Everyone KNOWS it.


SOMEBODY is picking up the tab.


Yep. It's the shrinking middle class, half of which seem to be pre-occupied with the financial well being of the uber rich that are benefitting from us picking up their tab.
HockeyDad Offline
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....and worst of all young man you've got industrial disease!
ZRX1200 Offline
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Le Hockey Dad........I just got my patent approval for a atm card rape kit. You want in on the ground floor on this opportunity or what?
HockeyDad Offline
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I'm just about to end my entire banking relationship over a soon to be added $5 monthly ATM card use fee.

It is the principle.
pdxstogieman Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I'm just about to end my entire banking relationship over a soon to be added $5 monthly ATM card use fee.

It is the principle.


They're punishing you for your support.
HockeyDad Offline
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I punish back. There are betting that will not happen and that you people won't get off the couch.
pdxstogieman Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I punish back. There are betting that will not happen and that you people won't get off the couch.


My bank hasn't gone to the monthly ATM fee...yet. If/when they do, they can KMA. And the beauty of it is, it's easy to switch from a bank to a credit union on my laptop from the comfort of my couch.

But in other related news, look at what happened to Netflix when they tried to raise the tax on content for the couchbound. The masses get surly when you charge more for their opiates.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I punish back. There are betting that will not happen and that you people won't get off the couch.


Why do you hate living room furniture?
HockeyDad Offline
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My bank just backed off the ATM fee that was supposed to go into affect next month. Now the only question is do I punish them anyway.


pdxstogieman Offline
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B of A again raping you the taxpayer.


Another Weapon for OWS: Pull Your Money Out of BofA
Matt Taibi, Rolling Stone Magazine
POSTED: October 28, 11:15 AM ET

Bank of America Corp. signage is displayed above the entrance to a branch in New York.Jin Lee/Bloomberg via Getty ImagesMy good friend Nomi Prins has a great new piece out that I just caught on Zero Hedge, chronicling 10 reasons why depositors should pull out of Bank of America.

Obviously Goldman, Sachs has become the great symbol of investment banking corruption, and other companies like AIG and Countrywide have become poster children for problems with businesses like insurance and mortgage-lending. But when it comes to commercial banking, Bank of America is as bad as it gets.

The markets, of course, have lately come to agree, as B of A has lately been downgraded again to just above junk status. The only reason the bank is not rated even lower than that is that it is Too Big To Fail. The whole world knows that if Bank of America implodes – whether because of the vast number of fraud suits it faces for mortgage securitization practices, or because of the time bomb of toxic assets on its balance sheets – the U.S. government will probably step in to one degree or another and save it.

The government’s patronage of the bank was never clearer than in recent weeks, when B of A quietly decided to move trillions of dollars (trillions, not billions) in risky Merrill Lynch derivatives contracts off Merrill’s books and onto the books of the parent/retail arm, Bank of America.

This decision was done at the behest of counterparties to those transactions, who wanted those contracts placed under the aegis of Bank of America, whose deposits are insured by the FDIC. The move was made, according to reports, so that Bank of America could avoid posting $3.3 billion in collateral to satisfy the company’s creditors. In other words, Bank of America just got You the Taxpayer to co-sign as much as $53 trillion worth of dicey derivative contracts.

The FDIC wasn’t pleased by the move, but the Fed apparently encouraged it. Bloomberg, citing people with “direct knowledge” of the deals, reported that,

The Fed has signaled that it favors moving the derivatives to give relief to the bank holding company, while the FDIC, which would have to pay off depositors in the event of a bank failure, is objecting, said the people. The bank doesn’t believe regulatory approval is needed, said people with knowledge of its position.

So the primary regulator of the banking industry is encouraging a functionally insolvent megabank to respond to a credit downgrade by pushing its most explosively risky holdings onto the laps of the taxpayer. This is lunacy…. Remember that story about the Chinese man who had a world-record 33-pound tumor removed from his face? This would be like treating that patient by removing the tumor and surgically attaching it to the face of a new patient, in this case the U.S. taxpayer.

A series of lawmakers on the Hill, including most notably Sherrod Brown, Carl Levin, and Bernie Sanders, are trying to figure out if there’s any way to stop this transaction, but of course there is not. Upstate NY congressman Maurice Hinchey put it best. "What Bank of America is doing is perfectly legal – and that's the problem,” he said.

This is exactly why the Glass-Steagall Act needs to be reinstated: without a separation of Investment Banks and Commercial Banks, what we end up getting is taxpayer-guaranteed gambling. Instead of encouraging prudence and savings by insuring deposits in commercial banks, the FDIC is now being turned into a vehicle for socializing speculative losses.

So our government is not only no longer encouraging fiscal conservatism, it is doing exactly the opposite, i.e. encouraging speculation and risk-taking. That this is happening in the fever of the OWS movement, and at a time when top politicians from Barack Obama on down are paying lip service to public complaints against Wall Street, should tell you everything you need to know about whether or not we can expect this government to voluntarily enact real changes, and stop making the taxpayer eat Wall Street’s pain.

Anyway, Nomi’s list goes a long way toward explaining why Bank of America is the last company on earth whose $53 trillion derivatives portfolio we should be insuring. A sample of her top ten:

7. Bank of America got the most AIG money of the big depositor banks. By virtue of having acquired Merrill Lynch's AIG-related portfolio, B of A got to keep approximately $12 billion worth of federal AIG backing, too. It also received more government subsidies than any other mega-bank except Citigroup ...

In terms of overall federal subsidies (including TARP), Bank of America was second only to Citigroup ($230 billion compared to $415 billion). None of that got in the way of former B of A CEO Ken Lewis' personal take, a $63 million retirement plan, in addition to the $63 million he scored during the three years before his departure.

If you’re a Bank of America customer, Nomi is right: find another bank. Try a local credit union. Keeping your money in this TBTF behemoth is very unsafe sex.

Incidentally, this kind of suggestion might prove a real help to OWS. One definite tactic that Occupy Wall Street can adopt, going forward, is educating people about the perfidy of certain financial institutions and convincing people to do what they did back in the days of apartheid, which is disinvest. If everyone were to start pulling their money out of the worst-offending banks, that would have a profound effect on the markets and may function as a great short-cut to political change.

Bank of America is a great place to start. All the TBTF banks suck equally, but as George Orwell would say, some banks are more equal than others. Withdrawals would be a great way for people to answer the Fed's decision to put depositors on the hook for Merrill Lynch's bad bets.



Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/another-weapon-for-ows-pull-your-money-out-of-b-of-a-20111028#ixzz1dC7TZnR9
HockeyDad Offline
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Pull your money out of Bank of America? I wonder where somebody may have already got that advice from.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Who paid back all of the TARP loans and was forced to take the deal on the table for ML and CountryWide?


I'll wait...please do your own homework.


Okay. Who backed off the Debit Card/ATM increased fees?


Oh wait, it's the same company that was mentioned above? You don't say!?


Please.


If only people were really informed on the issues. It's nice to see when the common folk get all up in the hizzy dizzy and get mad and stuff. They're the ones that calm down in 5 seconds flat when you show them the facts.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:

If only people were really informed on the issues. It's nice to see when the common folk get all up in the hizzy dizzy and get mad and stuff. They're the ones that calm down in 5 seconds flat when you show them the facts.



I can't get even one of them to buy a high quality pitchfork & torch set. I'm thinking about a new product line. The "Outrage Wrist Protector". It helps prevent carpal tunnel and other wrist related injuries commonly incurred while shaking ones fist in the air.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I can't get even one of them to buy a high quality pitchfork & torch set. I'm thinking about a new product line. The "Outrage Wrist Protector". It helps prevent carpal tunnel and other wrist related injuries commonly incurred while shaking ones fist in the air.



Just put an "Occupooper" label on it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXHUdvvHTkw
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Just look for the Union label!

Frying pan horse whip
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