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Rolling STONED magazine? Yeah, they're not left at all.

And ya gotta love how the OP automatically assumes anyone who doesn't agree has a "thick skull".

I've lived in the "ghetto". I've seen the cycle of abuse that goes on with people living off the gubmint and teaching their kids to do the same. I chose to leave.

How the folks who have money are screwing me, I have NO idea. I seem to be doing just fine. I make more than I spend, I have money in the bank, a nice house, a nice car and I am saving for retirement.

I suppose the OP would like me more if I'd stayed in the ghetto and knocked up a chick and refused to marry her so she could collect welfare... all while I worked under the table.

Instead of making a lame statement that the magazine that publishes the article by Taibbi that I linked in the original post is "Left". Why don't you try and refute some of the substance of the article. Also why don't you take a look at the Levin Report that I linked that has plenty of factual evidence of the criminal fraud that Goldman Sachs perpetrated. If you have no interest in how billions of taxpayer dollars are being transferred to the operators of the fed and individuals in the banking industry. If it doesn't bother you at all that the movers and shakers on Wall street have systematically, with the aid of well bribed (in the form of campaign contributions) politicians of both parties and owned regulators that are currying favor with those they ostensibly regulate to obtain lucrative positions with them in the future, torn down the regulations that were in place to prevent the kind of fraud that morally bankrupt firms like Goldman Sachs perpetrated. If you have no interest in how the socialist, not capitalist, re-distribution of wealth upward is occurring via bailout money, financed by the attendant tax of inflation. If you have no idea how these people are screwing you then you indeed have a thick skull.

I too make more than I spend, have a nice car, a house, a retirement fund (that those lovable scamps on wall street are continuously trying to steal through flash trading, skimming, creating bubbles that they profit on on the way up and then can quickly execute programmed trades to profit on the way down while "buy and hold" investors like most of us are caught and f@cked) etc, but I have my eyes open to what these thieves who create no value, but profit simply from manipulating and betting on the market they've manipulated, and when that doesn't pan out either collecting on the insurance they'be placed against the bet or collecting from the taxpayers in the form of bailouts, and the other thieves who maintain a lucrative franchise on the printing of money, and also are making the decision on how much will be printed and how it will be distributed.

Here's another article that you'll blow off as "left" probably without even reading that describes how these crimes are being covered up:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/is-the-sec-covering-up-wall-street-crimes-20110817

Just because you and I are doing ok today, doesn't mean that opportunities to do the same aren't shrinking for many others who aren't the "gubmint welfare abusers" you'd like to think are the only ones who might be a bit concerned at the systematic fleecing of most of the US citizenry. It doesn't mean that you won't be impacted if this type of crap is allowed to continue on such massive scale. You certainly don't have any idea, or interest in understanding what's being done to screw you, That retirement fund is something you better watch because it's probably invested in ways that make it fair game for the kind of games Goldman Sachs and other "financial sector" organized criminal enterprises are playing every day to part you from your $.

pdx - If you believe that it's only the right doing these things, you're an idiot. It isn't a left or a right monopoly.

Our government has gotten out of control. It's not the fault of people who have money. It rests squarely with the politicians, who are in office to look out for the public's best interest, ostensibly, but who continue to bend us over the table.

Their sense of entitlement is ridiculous. Left AND right. A military man or woman has to work 20 years to get a pittance of a retirement. What amounts to 50% of 60%. Yet... the politicians who send them into harms way do ONE TERM and get 100% of their pay and benefits for LIFE?

Until we, as a society, change things like THAT... the politicians will have zero motivation to do the right thing by us.

The toilet bowl that is Washington DC is full of shit and needs to be flushed and scrubbed.

Rich people are to blame, yes... the rich fucking politicians.

He's blaming rich people. I'm blaming politicians, who all happen to be rich people because they're politicians, and therefore - crooked.

yea so they can sell it on the cheap or surrender it again

The only buyer will be China. First it will need refurbishment.

^Well, maybe we are screaming obscenities from the same soapbox.

Are we in violent agreement on certain key points?

I love it when you're angry! Gonna get off the couch now and occupy something?

I am going to vote for every incumbent elected official I have a vote to use on if they will demonstrate they're actively going to support reforms aimed at increasing the ever more extreme tilt of the playing field in my favor and against you! OCCUPY!

I sell seashells down by the seashore! You just need to learn to accept your role as oppressed victim.

Did you kill your bank account like I suggested? Switch it? Or just once again take no action.

You said you have a retirement account. As in 401K? Is it managed by a major financial institution that received bailout money or in some other way participated in all the government induced asset sales to clean up the financial mess? Have you looked into your investments? Are you actually 20% invested in the same financial institutions like Goldman Sachs that you rail against?

These things might be worth looking into and would be another valid suggestion once again from Le HockeyDad that would allow you to put your money where your mouth is!

Le HockeyDad: Leadership for the couch-enabled occupiers!

Are they really in cash or money markets run by some huge financial institution?

Your focus on my profession is touching but if you truly understood the situation as you claim it, the game is rigged and wealth is systematically flowing upward. What I do today is not what I did two years ago and is not what I will be doing 2 years from now. It doesn't matter because the playing field is sloped in my favor no matter what!

Two years from now you will still be the oppressed victim.

Nope. I've never played the victim.

Remember that I was the one who was in favor of increasing taxes on the rich to throw you people a bone and guarantee that you won't get off the couch and gather your torches and pitchforks. (but if you do, I have the distribution machinery in motion for all your pitchfork and torch needs. win-win)

You figured out which way the wealth flows.....doing something as drastic as adding 3% to each tax bracket and restoring the Clinton tax rates won't change that flow. It just makes you oppressed victims feel a little better when you eat your cake.

...and you will eat your cake.

Why the obsession with HD's occupation? I mean besides completely owning your mind and direction you're going to spin why do you care what he does to put the bread on the table?

He's already proven time and again that he has a better grasp on basic economics than you could ever hope to attain.

He's already shown that he plays both sides agains the middle and that both are gutless pigs at the trough looking for more slop but you want to picture him as a shower ring or Amway salesman?

Run along little man. You can't even stay with a thread much less bring a good thought to the table.

I heard HD was a pimp

Where's my money, bitch?

He talks about playing both sides against the middle. When asked the basis in fact for those claims he just responds with vague analogies for whatever it is he does or is that may or may not support his outrageous characterization of himself as a globalist overlord. I'm not asking his employers name, his badge number, or pay grade. Just what is it he does that substantiates his grandiose characterization of himself? Butcher, Baker, Candlestick Maker, Raconteur Extroardinaire. In reading his facetiously self aggrandizing posts, he paints the impression he's Chairman of the Tri-lateral Commission, investment advisor to Warren Buffett, and a charter member of the Bilderbergers.

I expect his next reply to be, "The details of my life are quite inconsequential ... Very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low-grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a 15-year-old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize; he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes, he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament ... My childhood was typical: summers in Rangoon ... luge lessons ... In the spring, we'd make meat helmets ... When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds — pretty standard, really. At the age of 12, I received my first scribe. At the age of 14, a Zoroastrian named Vilmer ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum — it's breathtaking ... I suggest you try it".

are the pitchforks stainless steel..?? wooden or fiberglass handles..??

The platinum grade model is made from old-growth redwood from Northern California. This is an absolutely stunning protest accessory.

The deluxe model is made from cedar. It is naturally resistant to insects and rot which is important when in the hands of "occupiers" for extended periods of time.

Both can be recycled in our green facility and turned into fire logs.

There is a reason he is referred to as The Hockeydad, or Le Hockeydad.

Honey badger don't care...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg