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gubes Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Jun 12 2002, 11:09 AM EST
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This question is any of us that have over-bid (OB) on cigarbid or any other vendor either due to: 1)compulsion 2)stupidity 3)misunderstanding 4)absolute need or 5) all of the above.

OK. My confession is that I clearly overpaid for a humidor (on another site) when I first started out smoking cigars in '98. I've paid for some Naturals close to retail.

How about you?
xibbumbero Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Jun 12 2002, 12:39 PM EST
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Yes. X
gubes Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Jun 12 2002, 6:07 PM EST
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So, "X", what was your guilty pleasure that you over-bid for on cigarbid?

I just closed tonight on a 5-pack of Natural Elixir 5-50s. About $1/cigar more then I would have liked to have paid - but do I LIKE these smokes! Also paid a fair price on some Cuesta Rey Pyramids #9s. Not a great deal, but a fair price. Close-but no cigar in the overbidding tonight.
RobertParrott Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Jun 12 2002, 6:36 PM EST
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What people here fail to realize is that there WILL be more of the same stuff up for bid in a few days. Most of the newbies DON'T do thier homework and you can find most of the premium brands cheeper on other sites. Most of the people think local retail when bidding, when they should be thinking wholesale.
jjohnson28 Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Jun 12 2002, 6:54 PM EST
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I can see paying a couple bucks more then you should,
if say you only have a five pack closing at the end of the week and you want to offset a little bit of the shipping,besides I think cigars travel better in larger groups. :0)
[email protected] Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Jun 12 2002, 9:02 PM EST
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I have PROBABLY overbid...
My problem is I bid from the heart too often without doing the research I should do...
I figure if it is worth it to me, then it isn't so bad.
But then again, I often bid on some of the lower stuff, just to try and see... I have nothing against trying new smokes for the fish (you know... The Halubut {say it slowly}) (Oh I crack me up!).
Anyway... I just wish someone worse than me would follow up just before closing...
I am going BROKE!
delarob Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 2:46 AM EST
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I try to keep my CC maxed with crack/meth purchases. That way I don't bid too much...
BBJ Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 2:50 AM EST
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I'm With RobertParrott C-Bid HAs More Then 5 Of Any Thing.
Just Wait And IT WIll Come Up For Bid Again.
Dave2112 Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 6:12 AM EST
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If I already have won serveral bids and I have a day or two before they ship to me, I will bid $3.5 a stick for padron 3000's. Not really overbidding, but more than I usually like to pay.
SteveS Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 6:26 AM EST
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I too tend to bulk up a little toward Thursday in order to save on shipping ... pay a little more than I should sometimes? ... sure ... but to me, Over-bidding is the guy who pays FAR more than he should ... (such as $10 for an item I could buy at a store down the street for $6, or $68 for a box of cigars that could've been bought anytime for $59.95 on CI) ... I don't know whether they're unaware or just get caught up in a competition, seeking the "thrill of victory" ... I lose bids all the time to people who're willing to pay a little more than I am for a certain item at a certain time and win others on the same basis in reverse ... for the good of my CC, I just need to lose a few MORE ... lol
fgruben Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 6:29 AM EST
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i agree with everyone, paying a little more than you want is'nt to bad. it may be worth it for a sample so then if you want, you can buy at a real price if you want. as to overbidding, just look at ebay.
Charlie Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 7:32 AM EST
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I guess I will be the one person on this board who will not overpay! They will be there again, and again and I have my max that I am willing to pay, because I can always order from Cigars International or another place and find great deals on really great cigars! Just do the homework and set a limit and stick to it! Charlie
Dave2112 Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 7:57 AM EST
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What kills me is the person who thinks they are getting a deal on one 5 pack. Sure bidding $5 on say a 5 pack of 5 vegas is a good deal, but when you look at the $3.95 in shipping, you've paid $8.95 for it. I guess it is just the bean counter in me, but I look at the total.
SteveS Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 8:11 AM EST
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well, the shipping charges only apply that way if you have things shipped daily ... the reason I went to once a week shipments was to aggregate the shipping costs ... still, while your point is well-taken, buying a 5-pack is a little like shopping at 7-11 ... there's a convenience factor that one pays a little more for ...
xibbumbero Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 8:48 AM EST
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Gubes,It was a 5pack of Partagas 150's. X
jd1 Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 10:33 AM EST
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Like a few mentioned earlier; many of these items show up over and over again. Took me some patience but I scored a box of Bolivar Fuerte Delmonicos for $70 (75 with shipping). I have overbid when I first started on CI because I flat out wanted those cigars! Be a little patient and only bid what you truly feel is a great buy; you'll eventually get 'em...now to explain those credit card charges to the "warden"...
CL Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 12:21 PM EST
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X, were they worth it?
jd1 Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 12:26 PM EST
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CL: absolutely worth it. Great everyday smoke for $3/stick. I'm going to let them sit for about 6 months first...they really take to aging...I mean, no, no; don't ever buy any Bolivar Fuertes...dog rockets all of 'em.
CL Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 12:40 PM EST
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JD, I was actually referring to X's Partagas 150's. I'm guessing he paid about $100 for a 5-pack. Hey, I agree with you 100% on the Bolivar Fuertes. I got a box of the Cuban Coronas recently. Oh man are those tasty! Uh, I mean tasty as in "tasty as a dog terd". Nobody should bother bidding on these dog biscuits. Hey JD, have you yet tried the new Boli Fuerte maduros?
xibbumbero Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 1:59 PM EST
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CL,Everything being relative,I would have 2 say for special occasion smokes,yes. Would I do it again,NO. X
eleltea Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 2:12 PM EST
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The most I ever overpaid was $4 each for 4 5-packs of churchills. The first two were plugged and I tossed them. The third wasn't plugged and I wished that it was. I won't mention the brand because I don't want to offend anyone, but it starts with a c. Hint: California sight organs.
BMW Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 2:53 PM EST
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I'm with Charlie. I research or know what I'm willing to pay, set the autobid and let the bidding begin. If I lose, no big deal, I just try again or break down and try to find a decent price somewhere.
mtsheron Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 2:54 PM EST
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We have all OB at some time here or other places.......it is only expected from time to time.
xibbumbero Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 3:22 PM EST
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Eleltea,I live in CA and I have a one eyed organ thats in the shape of a cigar but I don't remember any cigars named after it. X
rookie139 Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 3:38 PM EST
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I accidentally bid on TWO separate auctions at the same time (both were boxes of Mayorga H.O Parejos)..ooops...I won both auction (but still did not overbid...about $20 less per box than another unnamed internet cigar co's price!)...I just didn't want TWO friggin boxes of them!..LOL
jazzman Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 3:53 PM EST
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x, i think llt is referring to caleyes...just a guess.
mhollowa Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 5:22 PM EST
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Slap me if I'm wrong but doesn't weekly shipping close out on Wednesday, not Thursday. It used to be Thursday but CB shifted off Friday shipping because the work getting out weekend orders was killing them. I guess I overbid before I saw lots going for a wide bid range. Now I do a lot more looking than bidding. I really like the "watch list" feature on the new site. If I've won stuff I'm prettty familiar with (price and taste) on Thursday or later I try to even out that week with brands and sizes I'm not. That way I keep the average cost per cigar down. But it also means I end up overbidding or coming darn close to internet retail. I wouldn't know a wholesale price if it dropped out of a Goodwill suit. I usually try to shoot my high bid at the per cigar median internet price on a box -- within a few cents. You can find cheaper prices but I like doing business here because the service is great. And if it's up for auction, it's in stock and will ship on time. Bottomline is the auction sets a market price that varies widely. When I can get a lot under that I've seen it go for earlier I feel pretty good.
xibbumbero Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Jun 13 2002, 6:05 PM EST
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Consider yourself slapped,it's thursday. X
mhollowa Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2002, 4:20 AM EST
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No, it's Wednesday. I looked back for the change in weekly shipping schedule and found the message below from Gonz...I read it to say CBid mails weekly shipments on Thursdays for closed lots from Thursday of the prior week through Wednesday of the current week -- In effort to improve CigarBid's service for our weekly shippers, we're making a small modification to the weekly shipping schedule.
Starting next week (week of Mar. 4), we are moving our weekly shipping schedule to include lots closed Thursday night (of previous week) through Wednesday night (of current week.) At present, our weekly shippers receive lots closing Friday through Thursday. Weekly invoices will then be generated and emailed on Thursday morning instead of Friday morning.
SteveS Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2002, 5:42 AM EST
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anybody besides me think that X and mh are actually saying the same thing, but each in a way that each thinks the other is wrong? I'm quite sure that each understands correctly when the bidding week begins and ends, they're just stating it in opposite ways ... at work, we have the same sort of disagreement all the time between two people who are in constant disagreement over the end of the pay period ... each understands correctly what the pay period is and when payday falls, but each thinks the other wrong because of how they explain it ...
mhollowa Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2002, 7:27 AM EST
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okay, Steve, so much for taking sides...Let's try this: The bidding week for weekly shippers begins when a Thursday begins and ends when the following Wednesday ends. Lots won during that week are shipped on the Thursday immediately following the end of the bidding week. For a weekly shipper, nothing closes Thursday. It all begins on a Thursday.
xibbumbero Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2002, 7:32 AM EST
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I'm sooo confused. X
SteveS Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2002, 7:33 AM EST
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yes, it does ...
mhollowa Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2002, 7:53 AM EST
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X, I hereby convey on you the Royal Honor of Zeno's Paradox and all the rights and privileges appertaining to. Here is your bow. Fine bow. Here is your arrow. Straight arrow. There is your target. Now, unlike mere moral beings, you are a god who can shoot an arrow so that it goes only half way to the target.
xibbumbero Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Jun 14 2002, 2:24 PM EST
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MH,Why do I feel slammed? X
mhollowa Offline
#36 Posted: Sun, Jun 16 2002, 6:01 PM EST
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Happy Father's Day, X
jgjam Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Jun 16 2002, 6:33 PM EST
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I don't think that I have overbid too often... just don't let my wife see the cc bills or she might have a different view on my purchases... overall she's pretty good at not saying much about my buying stuff.. cigars and electronics... she just goes and buys some more jewelry or clothes to spite me
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