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Obama's Job Approval Drops Below Carter's
jetblasted Offline
#1 Posted:
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President Obama's slow ride down Gallup's daily presidential job approval index has finally passed below Jimmy Carter, earning Obama the worst job approval rating of any president at this stage of his term in modern political history.

Since March, Obama's job approval rating has hovered above Carter's, considered among the 20th century's worst presidents, but today Obama's punctured Carter's dismal job approval line. On their comparison chart, Gallup put Obama's job approval rating at 43 percent compared to Carter's 51 percent.

Back in 1979, Carter was far below Obama until the Iran hostage crisis, eerily being duplicated in Tehran today with Iranian protesters storming the British embassy. The early days of the crisis helped Carter's ratings, though his failure to win the release of captured Americans, coupled with a bad economy, led to his defeat by Ronald Reagan in 1980.

According to Gallup, here are the job approval numbers for other presidents at this stage of their terms, a year before the re-election campaign:

-- Harry S. Truman: 54 percent.

-- Dwight Eisenhower: 78 percent.

-- Lyndon B. Johnson: 44 percent.

-- Richard M. Nixon: 50 percent.

-- Ronald Reagan: 54 percent.

-- George H.W. Bush: 52 percent.

-- Bill Clinton: 51 percent.

-- George W. Bush: 55 percent.

DadZilla3 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
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Obviously yet another heinous lie perpetrated by the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy and their capitalist running dog lackeys in the media!
HockeyDad Offline
#3 Posted:
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...and yet Obama still wins re-election.

(You people underestimate the power of bribing the electorate!)
DadZilla3 Offline
#4 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
...and yet Obama still wins re-election.

(You people underestimate the power of bribing the electorate!)


Bribe is such a mean-spirited word.

'Entitlements' sounds so much more appealing.
Brewha Offline
#5 Posted:
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This is just another indicator that the Republicans have a good shot at the election –
In just five short years . . . .
FuzzNJ Offline
#6 Posted:
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Yeah, he's screwing up.

But there are several more presidents that have had lower approval ratings. This is if compared to the same time as Carter, which shows a weird bias.

GW was at 25 in 08, Clinton 37 in 93, Bush Sr. 29 in 92 right before the election, Reagan 35 in 83, Carter was actually lower than this article states, 28 in 79.

The only ones who never went below 48% FDR, Eisenhower and Kennedy.

Perspective.
rfenst Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
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jetblasted wrote:
President Obama's slow ride down Gallup's daily presidential job approval index has finally passed below Jimmy Carter, earning Obama the worst job approval rating of any president at this stage of his term in modern political history.

Since March, Obama's job approval rating has hovered above Carter's, considered among the 20th century's worst presidents, but today Obama's punctured Carter's dismal job approval line. On their comparison chart, Gallup put Obama's job approval rating at 43 percent compared to Carter's 51 percent.

Back in 1979, Carter was far below Obama until the Iran hostage crisis, eerily being duplicated in Tehran today with Iranian protesters storming the British embassy. The early days of the crisis helped Carter's ratings, though his failure to win the release of captured Americans, coupled with a bad economy, led to his defeat by Ronald Reagan in 1980.

According to Gallup, here are the job approval numbers for other presidents at this stage of their terms, a year before the re-election campaign:

-- Harry S. Truman: 54 percent.

-- Dwight Eisenhower: 78 percent.

-- Lyndon B. Johnson: 44 percent.

-- Richard M. Nixon: 50 percent.

-- Ronald Reagan: 54 percent.

-- George H.W. Bush: 52 percent.

-- Bill Clinton: 51 percent.

-- George W. Bush: 55 percent.



I am curious were these figures came from. What is the cite?

Assuming arguendo, and depending on who did the poll and exactly how it was conducted (particular question(s) asked; possibility of inherent bias; whether the pollees were truly a statistically fair representative class of highly probable 2012 voters; etc.; etc.), the results may not be accurate. On the other hand they may be. How can we mere citizens tell on our own?

Anyhow, I have really ever only trusted two sources for presidential polling data and interpretation. I prefer data from The University of Michigan Survey Research Center and the seemingly unbiased interpretation by David Broder, deceased.

At this point, I don't care who wins for the R's- Romney and Gingrich don't please me. Neither does Obama for that matter.It will be the lesser of two evils for me once again.

Anyhow, I would bet the polling on Obama is suspect because the R's are out there debating every week and are getting the aggregate vast majority of media attention right now. Their campaigns are in high gear. Obama is not. Lets wait until after both conventions, when the polling data will be far more dependable.

In the meantime, it seems form this poll that Obama might be in deep trouble. On the other hand, look at how he came through at the end and clobbered Hillary in their primaries.

I wish the D's would run Hillary!!!
FuzzNJ Offline
#8 Posted:
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Roper Center for Public Opinion Research for everyone except GW which was Gallup.
yardobeef Offline
#9 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:

Anyhow, I would bet the polling on Obama is suspect because the R's are out there debating every week and are getting the aggregate vast majority of media attention right now. Their campaigns are in high gear. Obama is not. Lets wait until after both conventions, when the polling data will be far more dependable.


If those republican debates are having any affect other than to induce vomiting, I am amazed. Why would watching those clowns cause Obama's approval numbers to go down?
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#10 Posted:
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It will be interesting to see the anointed one try to run on his record. This will be the ugliest campaign ever, you can already see it and the right doesn't have a candidate yet. To bad the media didn't do the same to dig up dirt on Barry as they are trying to do all the potentials on the right.
rfenst Offline
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yardobeef wrote:
If those republican debates are having any affect other than to induce vomiting, I am amazed. Why would watching those clowns cause Obama's approval numbers to go down?


Perhaps you have my "cause and effect" turned around. I think that the constant presence of the R candidates in the media and their criticism of Obama (right or wrong) and their economy during debates has an affect on his polling numbers.

Right now, the best polling I can think of is:

Gingrich/Romney v. Obama/Bidden; and
Romney/Gingrich v. Obama/Bidden.

That's the only real potential issue at the present time. Unfortunately, none are choices I'd be comfortable with even if the R's had a different potential VP than either of the above.

If people get jobs ion time, Obama wins over the above two. If not, his campaign will likely fail like Bush, Sr.'s did (by just a few months).
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#12 Posted:
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I'm definitely confused.

If I were sitting in a room slowly filling with feces, I don't think it would make me dislike the smell of vomit, regardless of the propaganda (printed on Charmin, of course) floating in the feces. But I'm sure you're correct. We've been swimming in these political sewers for so long that the voting machines should be modified to make a flushing sound each time you vote.
HockeyDad Offline
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I advise voting for the globalist candidate.
jetblasted Offline
#14 Posted:
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I couldn't copy the link at work ...

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/11/29/obamas-job-approval-drops-below-carters
DrMaddVibe Offline
#15 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
At this point, I don't care who wins for the R's- Romney and Gingrich don't please me. Neither does Obama for that matter.It will be the lesser of two evils for me once again.



Who do you vote for in the Primary?

So, which one do you vote for Robert? The Kenyan King...AGAIN or Mittens/Newt?

As for Hillary...she brokered her own deal. She's getting EXACTLY what she wants.

Now isn't the time for the "lesser" game. We've seen where that's got us the last 6 Presidential election cycles. The guy we have now is a royal cluster*****ue. He doesn't know what to do, and has surrounded himself with absolute morons all the way down the line. He needs to go and he never should've been.

Newt can play the game and Mittens has "some" business experience but he's a career politician too. Neither one are conservative enough for me. I actually view them as Progressives with a bad dye job. They will play the tax/spend game along with everyone else except Paul.

The choices are being made clearer every day on how will get my primary vote. I've made mention of him from the beginning and this cycle I will write his name in if he doesn't appear on the ballot. I'm done with the games. I deserve better representation. I demand better leadership. I'm not going to sacrifice for the buffoons they throw up for the parties. You can...I'm NOT.


rfenst Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Who do you vote for in the Primary?

So, which one do you vote for Robert? The Kenyan King...AGAIN or Mittens/Newt?

As for Hillary...she brokered her own deal. She's getting EXACTLY what she wants.

Now isn't the time for the "lesser" game. We've seen where that's got us the last 6 Presidential election cycles. The guy we have now is a royal cluster*****ue. He doesn't know what to do, and has surrounded himself with absolute morons all the way down the line. He needs to go and he never should've been.

Newt can play the game and Mittens has "some" business experience but he's a career politician too. Neither one are conservative enough for me. I actually view them as Progressives with a bad dye job. They will play the tax/spend game along with everyone else except Paul.

The choices are being made clearer every day on how will get my primary vote. I've made mention of him from the beginning and this cycle I will write his name in if he doesn't appear on the ballot. I'm done with the games. I deserve better representation. I demand better leadership. I'm not going to sacrifice for the buffoons they throw up for the parties. You can...I'm NOT.



HockeyDad Offline
#17 Posted:
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(Reuters) - The unemployment rate fell to a 2-1/2 year low of 8.6 percent in November and companies stepped up hiring, further evidence the economic recovery was gaining momentum.

Nonfarm payrolls increased 120,000 last month, the Labor Department said on Friday, in line with economists' expectations for a gain of 122,000.

The relative strength of the report was also bolstered by revisions to the employment counts for September and October to show 72,000 more jobs created than previously reported.



Game over, bitches! You had better get under the Obama Cone of Protection while the door is still open.
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rfenst wrote:



Eh?
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