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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
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I have often wondered why it is that Conservatives are called the "right" and
Liberals are called the "left."

By chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right,
but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV)
Thus sayeth the Lord. Amen.

Can't get any simpler than that.
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Subject: Spelling Lesson

The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican.......I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats

End of lesson. Test to follow in November, 2012

Remember, November is to be set aside as rodent extermination month.



Think Think Think Think
Buckwheat Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 12,251
Republicans = Democrats
The two party system is killing this country.


Vote Modern Whig Party
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#3 Posted:
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First smile of the morning for me... funny/clever stuff, Drafter.
Now let's see the lefties come up with their version.Think
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
First smile of the morning for me... funny/clever stuff, Drafter.
Now let's see the lefties come up with their version.Think



(actually it was a c&p from an e-mail... but don't tell anyone...) Anxious
FuzzNJ Offline
#5 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
(actually it was a c&p from an e-mail... but don't tell anyone...) Anxious


Naw, really? Shocking.
Rclay Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 10-30-2006
Posts: 1,813
FuzzNJ wrote:
Naw, really? Shocking.


like you do anything else
FuzzNJ Offline
#7 Posted:
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Deut. 15:7. If there is a poor man among you, one of your brothers, in any of the towns of the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand to your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.

Deut. 26:12. When you have finished paying the complete tithe of your increase in the third year, the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the stranger, to the orphan and the widow, that they may eat in your towns, and be satisfied.

Lev. 19:19ff. Now when you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field, neither shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. Nor shall you glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen fruit of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God.

Prov. 31:8ff. [Commandment to kings.] Open your mouth for the dumb, for the rights of all the unfortunate. Open your mouth, judge righteously, and defend the rights of the afflicted and needy.

Is. 58:66ff. Is this not the fast which I choose, to loosen the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and break every yoke? Is it not to divide your bread with the hungry, and bring the homeless poor into the house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh?

Jer. 22:3. Do justice and righteousness, and deliver the one who has been robbed from the power of his oppressor. Also do not mistreat or do violence to the stranger, the orphan, or the widow; and do not shed innocent blood in this place.

Luke 12:33. "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys."

Luke 3:11. And [John the Baptist] would answer and say to them, "Let the man with two tunics share with him who has none, and let him who has food do likewise."

Mt. 5:42. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.

Prov. 22:9 He who is generous will be blessed, for he gives some of his food to the poor.

Jer. 22:16 "Did not your father eat and drink, and do justice and righteousness? Then it was well with him. He pled the cause of the afflicted and needy; then it was well. Is that not what it means to know Me?" declares the LORD.

Deut. 15:10. You shall give generously to [your poor brother], and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings.

Prov. 19:17. He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his good deed.

Jer. 7:5-7. "For, if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly practice justice between a man and his neighbor, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place, nor walk after other gods to your own ruin, then I will let you dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers forever and ever."

Is. 58:10. "And if you give yourself to the hungry, and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then your light will rise in darkness, and your gloom will become like midday. And the LORD will continually guide you, and satisfy your desire in scorched places, and give strength to your bones; and you will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water whose waters do not fail."

Luke 14:12-14. "When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return, and repayment come to you. But when you give a reception, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, since they do not have the means to repay you; for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."

Luke 12:44. "Sell your possessions and give alms; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Mt. 19:20ff. The young man said to Him, "All these commands I have kept; what am I still lacking?" Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Ezek. 16:49ff. "Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food, and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy. Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it."

Is. 10:1-3. "Woe to those who enact evil statutes, and to those who continually record unjust decisions, so as to deprive the needy of justice, and rob the poor of My people of their rights... Now what will you do in the day of punishment, and in the devastation which will come from afar?"

Luke 1:52ff. [Mary's Magnificat.] "He has brought down rulers from their thrones, and has exalted those who were hungry. He has filled the hungry with good things; and sent away the rich empty-handed."

Ezek. 22:29,31. "The people of the land have practiced oppression and committed robbery, and they have wronged the poor and needy and have oppressed the sojourner without justice... Thus I have poured out My indignation on them; I have consumed them with the fire of My wrath; their way I have brought upon their heads," declares the Lord GOD.

Jer. 5:28f. "[The wicked] do not plead the cause, the cause of the orphan, that they may prosper; and they do not defend the rights of the poor. Shall I not punish these people?" declares the LORD. "On such a nation as this, shall I not avenge myself?"

James 5:1-6. Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries which are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments have become moth-eaten. ...Behold, the pay of the laborers who mowed your fields, and with you have withheld, cries out against you; and the outcry of the harvesters has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. You have lived luxuriously on the earth and led a life of wanton pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter.

Luke 6:24. "But woe to you who are rich, for you are receiving your comfort in full."

Luke 16:19-25. "Now there was a certain rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, gaily living in splendor every day. And a certain poor man named Lazarus was laid at his gate, covered with sores, and longing to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table; besides, even the dogs would come and lick his sores.
Now it came about that the poor man died and he was carried away by the angels to Abraham's bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried. And in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far away, and Lazarus in his bosom.
And he cried out and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue; for I am in agony in this flame.'
But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony...'"

Prov. 29:7. The righteous is concerned for the rights of the poor; the wicked does not understand such concern.

1 John 3:17. But whoever has the world's goods, and beholds his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him?

Luke 6:33ff. "And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, in order to receive back the same."

2 Cor 9:7. Let each one do just as he has purposed in his heart; not grudgingly or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver.

Mt. 6:2-4. "When therefore you give alms, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be honored by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will repay you."

Mt. 6:24. "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money."

1 Tim. 6:10. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a pang.

Gal. 2:9ff. Recognizing the grace that had been given to me, James and Cephas and John... gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we might go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised. They only asked us to remember the poor-- the very thing I also was eager to do.

Lev. 19:15. "You shall do no injustice in judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor nor defer to the great, but you are to judge your neighbor fairly."

Acts 2:44. All those who had believed were together, and had all things in common; and they began to sell their property and possessions, and share them with all, as anyone might have need.

Acts 4:32-35. And the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul; and not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them. And with great power the apostles were giving witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and abundant grace was upon them all. For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales and lay them at the apostles' feet; and they would be distributed to each, as any had need.

2 Cor. 8:9. For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich.

Prov. 19:17. He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his good deed.

Prov. 14:31. He who oppresses the poor reproaches his Maker, but he who is gracious to the needy honors Him.

Mt. 25:31-46. "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. And all the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on His left.
Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.'
Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You drink? And when did we see You a stranger, and invite you in, or naked, and clothe You? And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'
And the King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.'
Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.'
Then they themselves will also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?'
Then He will answer them, saying, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
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Rclay wrote:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Deut. 15:7. If there is a poor man among you, one of your brothers, in any of the towns of the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand to your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.

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Then He will answer them, saying, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."



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#10 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,550
FuzzNJ wrote:
Deut. 15:7. If there is a poor man among you, one of your brothers, in any of the towns of the land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand to your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.

Deut. 26:12. When you have finished paying the complete tithe of your increase in the third year, the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the stranger, to the orphan and the widow, that they may eat in your towns, and be satisfied.

Lev. 19:19ff. Now when you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field, neither shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. Nor shall you glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather the fallen fruit of your vineyard; you shall leave them for the needy and for the stranger. I am the LORD your God.

Prov. 31:8ff. [Commandment to kings.] Open your mouth for the dumb, for the rights of all the unfortunate. Open your mouth, judge righteously, and defend the rights of the afflicted and needy.

Is. 58:66ff. Is this not the fast which I choose, to loosen the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and break every yoke? Is it not to divide your bread with the hungry, and bring the homeless poor into the house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh?

Jer. 22:3. Do justice and righteousness, and deliver the one who has been robbed from the power of his oppressor. Also do not mistreat or do violence to the stranger, the orphan, or the widow; and do not shed innocent blood in this place.

Luke 12:33. "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys."

Luke 3:11. And [John the Baptist] would answer and say to them, "Let the man with two tunics share with him who has none, and let him who has food do likewise."

Mt. 5:42. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you.

Prov. 22:9 He who is generous will be blessed, for he gives some of his food to the poor.

Jer. 22:16 "Did not your father eat and drink, and do justice and righteousness? Then it was well with him. He pled the cause of the afflicted and needy; then it was well. Is that not what it means to know Me?" declares the LORD.

Deut. 15:10. You shall give generously to [your poor brother], and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the LORD your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings.

Prov. 19:17. He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his good deed.

Jer. 7:5-7. "For, if you truly amend your ways and your deeds, if you truly practice justice between a man and his neighbor, if you do not oppress the alien, the orphan, and the widow, and do not shed innocent blood in this place, nor walk after other gods to your own ruin, then I will let you dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers forever and ever."

Is. 58:10. "And if you give yourself to the hungry, and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then your light will rise in darkness, and your gloom will become like midday. And the LORD will continually guide you, and satisfy your desire in scorched places, and give strength to your bones; and you will be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water whose waters do not fail."

Luke 14:12-14. "When you give a luncheon or a dinner, do not invite your friends or your brothers or your relatives or rich neighbors, lest they also invite you in return, and repayment come to you. But when you give a reception, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, since they do not have the means to repay you; for you will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous."

Luke 12:44. "Sell your possessions and give alms; make yourselves purses which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near, nor moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Mt. 19:20ff. The young man said to Him, "All these commands I have kept; what am I still lacking?" Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me."

Ezek. 16:49ff. "Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food, and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy. Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it."

Is. 10:1-3. "Woe to those who enact evil statutes, and to those who continually record unjust decisions, so as to deprive the needy of justice, and rob the poor of My people of their rights... Now what will you do in the day of punishment, and in the devastation which will come from afar?"

Luke 1:52ff. [Mary's Magnificat.] "He has brought down rulers from their thrones, and has exalted those who were hungry. He has filled the hungry with good things; and sent away the rich empty-handed."

Ezek. 22:29,31. "The people of the land have practiced oppression and committed robbery, and they have wronged the poor and needy and have oppressed the sojourner without justice... Thus I have poured out My indignation on them; I have consumed them with the fire of My wrath; their way I have brought upon their heads," declares the Lord GOD.

Jer. 5:28f. "[The wicked] do not plead the cause, the cause of the orphan, that they may prosper; and they do not defend the rights of the poor. Shall I not punish these people?" declares the LORD. "On such a nation as this, shall I not avenge myself?"

James 5:1-6. Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries which are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments have become moth-eaten. ...Behold, the pay of the laborers who mowed your fields, and with you have withheld, cries out against you; and the outcry of the harvesters has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. You have lived luxuriously on the earth and led a life of wanton pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter.

Luke 6:24. "But woe to you who are rich, for you are receiving your comfort in full."

Luke 16:19-25. "Now there was a certain rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, gaily living in splendor every day. And a certain poor man named Lazarus was laid at his gate, covered with sores, and longing to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table; besides, even the dogs would come and lick his sores.
Now it came about that the poor man died and he was carried away by the angels to Abraham's bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried. And in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes, and saw Abraham far away, and Lazarus in his bosom.
And he cried out and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue; for I am in agony in this flame.'
But Abraham said, 'Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony...'"

Prov. 29:7. The righteous is concerned for the rights of the poor; the wicked does not understand such concern.

1 John 3:17. But whoever has the world's goods, and beholds his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him?

Luke 6:33ff. "And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, in order to receive back the same."

2 Cor 9:7. Let each one do just as he has purposed in his heart; not grudgingly or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver.

Mt. 6:2-4. "When therefore you give alms, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be honored by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will repay you."

Mt. 6:24. "No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will hold to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money."

1 Tim. 6:10. For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith, and pierced themselves with many a pang.

Gal. 2:9ff. Recognizing the grace that had been given to me, James and Cephas and John... gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we might go to the Gentiles, and they to the circumcised. They only asked us to remember the poor-- the very thing I also was eager to do.

Lev. 19:15. "You shall do no injustice in judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor nor defer to the great, but you are to judge your neighbor fairly."

Acts 2:44. All those who had believed were together, and had all things in common; and they began to sell their property and possessions, and share them with all, as anyone might have need.

Acts 4:32-35. And the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul; and not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them. And with great power the apostles were giving witness to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and abundant grace was upon them all. For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales and lay them at the apostles' feet; and they would be distributed to each, as any had need.

2 Cor. 8:9. For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich.

Prov. 19:17. He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the LORD, and He will repay him for his good deed.

Prov. 14:31. He who oppresses the poor reproaches his Maker, but he who is gracious to the needy honors Him.

Mt. 25:31-46. "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. And all the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on His left.
Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.'
Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You drink? And when did we see You a stranger, and invite you in, or naked, and clothe You? And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?'
And the King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.'
Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you gave Me nothing to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me nothing to drink; I was a stranger, and you did not invite Me in; naked, and you did not clothe Me; sick, and in prison, and you did not visit Me.'
Then they themselves will also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?'
Then He will answer them, saying, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."





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FuzzNJ Offline
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neopuritan wrote:
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Ya, it's fun isn't it? It doesn't require a spam email to tell me how to think.

Now since we're quoting the bible and all that, look at everything it says about those dirty, poor, unemployed people of the world. Strange that people who take that fictional book seriously don't follow the stuff in it, yet they want to force it on the rest of us who actually do help the poor by putting up the 10 commandments everywhere.

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FuzzNJ wrote:
Ya, it's fun isn't it? It doesn't require a spam email to tell me how to think.

Now since we're quoting the bible and all that, look at everything it says about those dirty, poor, unemployed people of the world. Strange that people who take that fictional book seriously don't follow the stuff in it, yet they want to force it on the rest of us who actually do help the poor by putting up the 10 commandments everywhere.




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Rclay Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Ya, it's fun isn't it? It doesn't require a spam email to tell me how to think.

Now since we're quoting the bible and all that, look at everything it says about those dirty, poor, unemployed people of the world. Strange that people who take that fictional book seriously don't follow the stuff in it, yet they want to force it on the rest of us who actually do help the poor by putting up the 10 commandments everywhere.




The saddest part is you really think that is a stinging indictment. Without the help and charity of Christ focused organizations and people the "poor and dirty" would never get any help at all. Call on your god of government when things are bad and see if it answers.
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Rclay wrote:
The saddest part is you really think that is a stinging indictment. Without the help and charity of Christ focused organizations and people the "poor and dirty" would never get any help at all. Call on your god of government when things are bad and see if it answers.



lol. yeah, great thing we got those religious organizations helping the poor, feeding the hungry and healing the sick otherwise we'd have more people living under the poverty line than at any time in our country's history, or something. Great job!

The 'church' in this country has become infected with right wing propaganda and it's not gonna stop anytime soon. It's gotten so bad that right wing opinion makers like Rush and Beck et al have told their listeners that if their church talks about social justice, you should leave that church and complain loudly that the church is not following god's teachings because Jesus was a pull yourself up by your bootstraps kinda guy. Sad thing is most of these 'believers' don't even know what their cherished book says on the matter, only what they are told it says.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
lol. yeah, great thing we got those religious organizations helping the poor, feeding the hungry and healing the sick otherwise we'd have more people living under the poverty line than at any time in our country's history, or something. Great job!

The 'church' in this country has become infected with right wing propaganda and it's not gonna stop anytime soon. It's gotten so bad that right wing opinion makers like Rush and Beck et al have told their listeners that if their church talks about social justice, you should leave that church and complain loudly that the church is not following god's teachings because Jesus was a pull yourself up by your bootstraps kinda guy. Sad thing is most of these 'believers' don't even know what their cherished book says on the matter, only what they are told it says.




Please refer to your avatar before posting.whip
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You keep on waging a one person anti-God war, it will ultimately only hurt you. If church bothers you that bad, don't go, but you're missing out. They are generally great places filled with flawed people trying to do the right thing and work on a better relationship with God.
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Rclay wrote:
You keep on waging a one person anti-God war, it will ultimately only hurt you. If church bothers you that bad, don't go, but you're missing out. They are generally great places filled with flawed people trying to do the right thing and work on a better relationship with God.




Shhh


He only goes for the Bingo games and the Friday fish frys!
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Why all the yelling Fuzz? Doesn't help.
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Ever see those "Burma Shave" road signs?


Kinda the same thing!


Frying pan whip horse ram27bat Gonz
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Rclay wrote:
the "poor and dirty"


Really!!! What does being poor have to do with being dirty? I think you could’ve chosen better wording than “Poor and Dirty”.
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The last four letters in Yiddish are DISH !
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Those evil Republicans/Conservatives hate the poor and needy unlike the Democrats/Liberals? Well.....not in reality. Several studies have shown how those 'red' states and republicans give far more to charity. (Just so I'm not hit with show me some proof... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html)
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Shame the God haters have to hone in on a small part of the OP's satirical post.
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Buckwheat wrote:
Really!!! What does being poor have to do with being dirty? I think you could’ve chosen better wording than “Poor and Dirty”.




buckwheat- I was quoting FuzzNJ, not my words his. notice the quotations. look at post #11.
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Rclay wrote:
You keep on waging a one person anti-God war, it will ultimately only hurt you. If church bothers you that bad, don't go, but you're missing out. They are generally great places filled with flawed people trying to do the right thing and work on a better relationship with God.



Interesting stuff, but not my experience at all. The multitude of churches I have attended have been filled
with intolerant, arrogant, money hungry hypocrites. Glad your general experience has been different.
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Rclay wrote:
You keep on waging a one person anti-God war, it will ultimately only hurt you. If church bothers you that bad, don't go, but you're missing out. They are generally great places filled with flawed people trying to do the right thing and work on a better relationship with God.


Aww, isn't that sweet. Brought a tear to the eye.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Shhh


He only goes for the Bingo games and the Friday fish frys!



Funerals and weddings and the occasional get together at my father's church to support him and my mother. I hate bingo and can fry my own fish.
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Buckwheat wrote:
Why all the yelling Fuzz? Doesn't help.


There's no yelling, none at all.
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jackconrad wrote:
The last four letters in Yiddish are DISH !


The first 3 letters in conservative are 'con'. Wow, so weird. Must be a sign from god or something.

I swear I don't understand why conservatives like these little email parables, they are usually full of lies, misrepresentations and innacuracies and usually preachy.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Aww, isn't that sweet. Brought a tear to the eye.



If you need help finding one in your area let me know. I can do some research and send you to a good one.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
I swear I don't understand why conservatives like these little email parables, they are usually full of lies, misrepresentations and innacuracies and usually preachy.



So they're just like you?Think
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Ragin' Cajun wrote:
Those evil Republicans/Conservatives hate the poor and needy unlike the Democrats/Liberals? Well.....not in reality. Several studies have shown how those 'red' states and republicans give far more to charity. (Just so I'm not hit with show me some proof... http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html)



The charity you are talking about is usually tithing. The vast majority of those tithes go to the running of the church, not helping the community outside their walls.

Red states also take more from the federal government than they pay in taxes. Blue states like NJ get back much less than they pay in. Red states are leaches.
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Rclay wrote:
If you need help finding one in your area let me know. I can do some research and send you to a good one.



lmao. no thanks. My father is a retired ordained assemblies of god minister. I think I'm all set. Thanks though.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
So they're just like you?Think



Another 'i know you are but what am I' response? Jesus dude, get out of grade school.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
The charity you are talking about is usually tithing. The vast majority of those tithes go to the running of the church, not helping the community outside their walls.

Red states also take more from the federal government than they pay in taxes. Blue states like NJ get back much less than they pay in. Red states are leaches.


Regarding church donations, a common reply but also untrue even when the church donations are removed. Cash aside, conservatives donate far more time and blood to charitable activities as well.

As to taking benefits from the states, I'll not comment as I have not researched that particular aspect.
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Rclay wrote:
buckwheat- I was quoting FuzzNJ, not my words his. notice the quotations. look at post #11.


Sorry Rclay. I just don't have the desire to read all of Fuzz's rants.

Particularly when he is YELLING.
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Antagonized Rat Outrage!
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I heard an atheist say "I swear to god,there is no God "
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Ragin' Cajun wrote:
Regarding church donations, a common reply but also untrue even when the church donations are removed. Cash aside, conservatives donate far more time and blood to charitable activities as well.

As to taking benefits from the states, I'll not comment as I have not researched that particular aspect.


I've seen that claim. Problem is, the methodology used to reach that conclusion is flawed. It relies on self reporting, and the people lie. Case in point: In calculating the amount of giving the respondents are asked about their church attendence. 1/2 of them lie about that. If everyone went to church every week like they say they do, there wouldn't be enough room in the churches of America. If they lie about that it stands to reason they would lie about how much they give as well.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
The charity you are talking about is usually tithing. The vast majority of those tithes go to the running of the church, not helping the community outside their walls.
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So the charity given by "conservatives" isn't as good as the forced welfare provided by our inefficient federal goverment?

Brilliant.
Even for you, that's a dumb statement.

When you're down and out, and the local church or food pantry keeps your kids fed, I doubt you'll be bemoaning thier core-beliefs.
Meanwhile, you could wait months for governement assistance if you don't fit their neat and tidy profile of who is fit to receive.

Charity and community are from the heart.
Government welfare is a top-heavy bureoucracy.

I often loathe the proselytizing that the religious right do.
But when push comes to shove, they are there and they put their money where their heart is. No second thoughts. Actions and deeds in place of promisses and words.

Can you say that for the federal government?

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tailgater wrote:
So the charity given by "conservatives" isn't as good as the forced welfare provided by our inefficient federal goverment?

Brilliant.
Even for you, that's a dumb statement.


Um, no. Didn't say anything close to that, hell it wasn't even infered. What's wrong with you?


tailgater wrote:

When you're down and out, and the local church or food pantry keeps your kids fed, I doubt you'll be bemoaning thier core-beliefs.
Meanwhile, you could wait months for governement assistance if you don't fit their neat and tidy profile of who is fit to receive.

Charity and community are from the heart.
Government welfare is a top-heavy bureoucracy.

I often loathe the proselytizing that the religious right do.
But when push comes to shove, they are there and they put their money where their heart is. No second thoughts. Actions and deeds in place of promisses and words.

Can you say that for the federal government?



Why should I say anything? You apparently speak for me anyway.
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