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Liberal government hurting religion? This was the editorial posted in the community views section of our regional newspaper along with a short article written and submitted as a letter to the editor. The writer of the article refers to many of our current polticians as CINOS ( Christains in Name Only ) He refers to these people as leftist leaning individuals that offer up new sugar coated tactics to tempt people to accept an atheist form of a dictatorial type of government rule.

The individual goes on to say that this election cycle may be our last chance to save our constitution by rejecting the CINOS and elect true Christians to the Presidency, Congress and State Legislators. The one thing he forgot to mention is. Who are the true christians? Maybe some of the cigarbid forum people can weigh in with an opinion or let us know who you think the true christians are. I thought his article was well written, but a little / lot hypocritical and pretty damn funny. It brought to mind a song from Pat McCurdy called GOD. Google it and read the lyrics. I think this article writer thinks this is " What God Likes " Read the lyrics and you will see what I am talking about.

I put this out here for discussion only. It would be interseting to see what you think, and maybe some good feed back.

IF920

Oh God.





Some lefties don't like being preached to, some hate religion and some want to abolish organized religion and prefer communism.


Plenty of lefties also go to church as well.

Romney is a moron.

But he's the best option...

I think that part of the problem arises from Thomas Jefferson's oft misquoted reference in a letter to some Baptists regarding the "separation between church and state" which merely refers to his opposition to the establishment of a state religion nothing more. This phrase is used as a club by the left to justify secularism & to downplay (or ignore) the founding father's acknowledgment of the importance for maintaining this country's Judeo-Christian roots if the country is to survive.

As far as who the "real Christians" are - I assume that you are using this as generic reference for all "good people" (not just Christians per se, otherwise I would have to question your motives) - you will know them by their acts not necessarily by their speech.

Nice to meetcha, IF920.

I'm not sure it's misquoted: "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

This was during his presidency as well, and is often considered the basic effect of the first amendment. If the founding fathers felt like the country should maintain christian roots, why did they immediately create an amendment preventing it?



^^^Yup

I'm not sure they incorporated them specifically, or rather if people grouped by culture naturally did in their specific areas, and the "secular" attempts at removing them are simply the original Bill of Rights finally reaching those holdouts. I mean, it wasn't until the 14th amendment that the Bill of Rights applied on a state level. Let's also not forget what other cultural aspects were incorporated into every day life by early Americans even though it was against the spirit of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, and were also later removed by additional amendments and court cases, such as slavery and a lack of women's rights.

Every time I hear anyone advocating for Mr. Santorum, I worry a lot more about religion's potential influence on government than I do about the reverse.

Why I can't wait to show my BOTL's just how BIG the Church of Scientology has gotten lately!

Let the record show that I have never repressed a soul!

I would HIGHLY encourage anyone to re-read (or read for the first time!) the Federalist Papers.

Really.

The Church of England is what had all of our Founding Fathers nipples all twisted up in knots. A church sanctioned by a crown or republic could alter law/s to do whatever they wanted from beheadings, land/property seizure to forced membership. They realized this and knew where it went. They nipped it in the bud.

I think someones upset their butt didn't get pinched as an alter boy. Or ever had his hair parted in the middle. Shhhhhh, its o.k.

I think both religions are cool (catholic and protestant). Its all the other satan worshipers that are trying to kill our way of life that should be burned at the stake.


Edit. I forgot about the Jewish people. They are cool. Praise Israel.

i remember last night's posts like it was yesterday/

i was responding to Z, something about clarbell abd howdy doody

HELP,. MY SPELL CHECK DISAPPEARED SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME A LINK TO REINSTALL ONE, HAVE PITY ON ANYONE DUMB ENOUGH TO READ MY PONTIFICATIONS.
I MUST LOOK FOR THE YOUNG Z'S post in which he claims to quote me saying clarance shouldl recuse himself in cases where (etc.)