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Poll Question : WHAT YEAR DOES THE US GO BANKRUPT
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2012 1 3 %
2013 0 0 %
WAIT THERE AIN'T GONNA BE ANY YEARS AFTER 2012 2 7 %
2014 1 3 %
2015 1 3 %
2016 0 0 %
THE FEILD (2017 and above) 3 11 %
HA SUCKER! IT'S ALREADY BANKRUPT ! 16 61 %
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raymallen Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 10-20-2011
Posts: 396
DrMaddVibe wrote:
Obama oil margin plan could increase price swings

(Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama's bid to dampen the influence of oil speculators by having regulators set trading margins could backfire, potentially making prices even more volatile and leaving crude dominated only by those with the deepest pockets.

Under Obama's request to Congress, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) would determine how much speculators need to pay to trade U.S. crude oil futures, in theory increasing the amount when prices move too far, too fast.

But economists and traders cautioned that pushing smaller investors out of markets would only hand greater influence to the largest hedge funds and Wall Street banks. Ultimately, there may not be enough traders left to do business with oil producers and consumers looking to hedge their needs.

"Reduced liquidity often means greater volatility," said broker Jay Levine at Enerjay LLC in Maine.

"That's the exact opposite of (Obama's plan's) purpose".

Exchange-operator CME Group, which currently sets margin requirements for the benchmark U.S. crude oil contract, on Tuesday called the president's plan "misplaced", and said speculation should not be confused market manipulation.

CME charges separate margin rates for speculators and end-users of oil such as airlines, who are hedging their physical needs.

One contract of benchmark U.S. crude, commonly known as West Texas Intermediate or WTI, had a notional value of just under $103,000 on Thursday, based on a standard 1,000 barrel contract and prices around $102.50 a barrel.

Traders defined as speculators can buy that contract for an upfront cost of just $6,855, with a maintenance margin of $5,500. Those defined as hedgers would pay $5,100 upfront with a maintenance margin also of $5,100.

EXISTING POWERS

While Obama's bill currently has little hope of making it through a divided Congress, a price spike before November could boost cross-party support from politicians wary of siding with oil traders in an election year.

Two large waves of speculators have surged into oil markets in the last 14 months due to the supply disruption in Libya and plans for increased sanctions on Iran's oil exports this year.

Prices rose on both moves, but some industry experts believe prices could have risen even more without their influence.

"The attack on speculation is an attack on better functioning markets," said Edward Morse, global head of commodities research at Citigroup.

"If there were not liquidity in the futures market... the chances are overwhelming that price volatility would be greater."

The CFTC already has emergency powers to raise margins, though they have rarely exercised them. Last year, when the supply shock in Libya was big enough to spark a coordinated stockpile release by the International Energy Agency, the CFTC declined to pull the margin trigger, despite speculator positions hitting an all-time high.

That raises the question of whether they would increase them in the event of a future supply disruption, if they were also tasked with setting margins day to day.

"When markets are very volatile and they are afraid about banks buying too much oil on leverage, it gives them a tool," said Amy Jaffe, energy policy expert at Rice University's Baker Institute in Houston.

"(But) would a politician actually have the guts to use it? If you use it when we are already in a horrible crisis, it is too late."

Michael Wittner, global head of oil research at Societe Generale in New York and a former analyst at the IEA, said he didn't expect regulators to become more active, even if they are handed more powers.

"The CFTC already works very closely with the exchanges," Wittner said. "They're going to continue to rely on their expertise."

SPECULATOR SURGES

Many traders and market analysts noted that speculators tend to buy crude when there is a strong underlying reason to do so such as the loss of Libyan crude last year or sanctions and possible military action against Iran.

Between February and March 2011, when Libya's crude oil supplies were first cut by fighting in the country, speculator bets that crude oil prices would rise on the New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX) shot-up from 185,236 contracts to an all-time high of 311,632, CFTC data showed.

With each contract equal to 1,000 barrels of oil, that's the equivalent of over 125 million extra barrels of oil (roughly 1.4 days of global demand) bought in less than a month.

Prices spiked by $15-$20 a barrel over the period, though many argued it was natural for prices to rise given almost 2 million barrels per day of light sweet crude had been lost from a finely balanced market.

"The CFTC understands that markets can be volatile," said Jason Schenker, president of Prestige Economics in Austin, Texas.

"Leaving people at the risk of sudden margin increases could deter investment in oil markets that is critical in the long-run."

This year, with pending sanctions on Iran's oil exports and concerns about a possible military confrontation, speculator bets on higher prices increased about 43 percent, from just over 190,000 to 272,032 between January and March. Prices rose over that period from $99 to a peak of $110.55.

But over the last five weeks, speculators unwound net-long positions back to the level they were at the beginning of January, as expectations waned for a confrontation between Israel and Iran.

Hedge fund manager John Kilduff said that while politicians had been quick to criticize speculators in oil, they've been quiet about speculators in the natural gas market, who have been betting on lower prices since at least June 2009, according to data from the CFTC.

Natural gas prices hit a 10-year low below $2 per million British thermal units on Thursday due largely to booming domestic shale gas production.

"We look forward to seeing the natural gas market speculators feted at the White House soon for their work in reducing prices upward of 90 percent in several short years," Kilduff said.





Government's meddling has to stop. When you couple it with kooky ideas from over educated shills that have NO real world experience you get the failed policies of the Kenyan King. When you stack the deck with criminals, tax cheats and commies...WTF did you expect? Rainbows, Unicorns and Lollipops? See the fail for what it IS. Take your political slant out of it, step back and re-read the article.

Hope and Change?

KNEEGROW PUHLEEZE!



It is my dream to be a trader for a bulb bracket bank. But like you said, "we need to read between to the lines". You think it is ok that 70% of trading volume and commodity speculation is done by machines with no person pressing buy or sell? Or the people programming these formulas have never taken an economics course in their life? This is attack against a market ran by computers, not traders.

By the way, prejudice comments don't help make you look credible.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#52 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,550
raymallen wrote:
It is my dream to be a trader for a bulb bracket bank. But like you said, "we need to read between to the lines". You think it is ok that 70% of trading volume and commodity speculation is done by machines with no person pressing buy or sell? Or the people programming these formulas have never taken an economics course in their life? This is attack against a market ran by computers, not traders.

By the way, prejudice comments don't help make you look credible.



You take me for some fool.

Of course I don't think it's okay for "auto traders" BUT this is the system that regulators...the very same govt. regulators you want allow.

No, what we need are irrational no world experience traders like yourself in there mucking about learning as they go with no safety nets. Maybe wear a meat suit and jump in the arena with some tigers for laughs. Of course we'll be sure to use some USDA grade meat just for you and the tigers will all have their shots because we know how you love some government daily allowance. Ask nice and we'll throw in a safety helmet, that is if PETA allows it because it might disturb the digestive system of the tigers and we wouldn't want it to pass a big piece of plastic and foam.

Oh, and by the way...having no working knowledge but a bunch of books, classroom experiments and a piece of lambskin to hang on a wall doesn't impress me in the least! YOU think I'm predjuiced wait till you meet you future boss!!!!


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