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May 7, 2012 The Two Lefts By Steven Plaut It is impossible to understand politics in the world today without grasping the fundamental fact that there exist two different lefts. I propose that the two be referred to by everyone as the Stupid Left and the Satanic Left. The two are very different,although they work together. People who are part of the first are simply stupid people. People who are part of the second may in fact be quite shrewd,but are evil and nefarious. There is no third type of leftist.

Over time,the Stupid Left has been losing its numbers,as many Stupid Leftists either become smarter or morph into Satanic Leftists,and so desist from being mere Stupid Leftists. So a process of selection is occurring whereby the strength of the Satanic Left within the overall left grows. The "Occupy Wall Street" demonstrations and their kin in Europe are attended by and contain both kinds of leftists, although they are increasingly organized by Satanic Leftists. Almost all the BDS (boycott,divestment,and sanctions vis-à-vis Israel) guttersnipes are Satanic Leftists.

Both the Stupid Left and the Satanic Left demonstrate together against the United States,in favor of Iran and Islamofascism,in favor of destroying Israel,and in favor of Palestinian terrorism. But for different reasons. The Stupid Left really thinks that if the U.S. leaves Iran alone,it will refrain from developing weapons of mass destruction. The Satanic Left supports Iran precisely because it knows that Iran will develop them and use them!

The Stupid Left is anti-American because it thinks people in America are oppressed,poor,and mistreated,and that America is an evil country. The Satanic Left is anti-American precisely because it knows that the opposite is the case.

The Stupid Left hates America because it thinks America promotes evil, oppressive regimes around the world. The Satanic Left hates America because America gets in the way of the evil, oppressive regimes that the Satanic Left promotes.

The Stupid Left denounces capitalism and globalization and supports communism because it really believes that people are poor and oppressed under capitalism but free and happy under socialism. The Satanic Left denounces capitalism and supports communism precisely because it knows that the opposite is the case.

The Stupid Left does not know that communism produces gulags. The Satanic Left supports communism precisely because it produces gulags, and also because members of the Satanic Leftists presume that they will be placed in charge of the gulags.

The Stupid Left wants a Palestinian state because it thinks that such a state will pursue peace alongside Israel. The Satanic Left wants a Palestinian state precisely because it knows that such a state will launch a war of destruction against Israel and endless atrocities against the Jews.

The Stupid Left thinks that Israel mistreats Arabs. It does not know that Arab regimes mistreat Arabs. The Satanic Left knows that Israel does not and the Arab regimes do. The reason it wants Israel destroyed is not because it thinks Israel is unjust,but rather because it hates Jews.

The Stupid Left opposes Israeli armed force being used to suppress terror because it thinks that terror can be resolved through dialogue and negotiations. The Satanic Left opposes Israeli armed forces being used to suppress terror because it supports terror against Jews.

The Stupid Left is convinced that most Arabs seek peace,are moderate and decent people,and have legitimate grievances against the West. The Satanic Left supports Arab aggression and terror precisely because it knows that this is not true.

The Stupid Left thinks that Palestinian leaders and Arab nationalists are progressive and liberal. The Satanic Left supports the same people precisely because it knows they are fascists.

The Stupid Left is under the impression that Arab states have elections and freedom and enlightenment. The Satanic Left supports Arab regimes because they want to destroy Israel and murder Jews.

The Stupid Left thinks the West should not place its Arab residents under surveillance because they are decent people and loyal to their adopted countries. The Satanic Left opposes such surveillance because it wants more bin Ladens.

The Stupid Left thinks that Israeli settlements are an obstacle to peace. The Satanic Left wants the settlers evicted or killed because they are an obstacle to the Palestinian ambitions of destroying Israel.

The Stupid Left thinks the Middle East conflict is about Arab human rights. The Satanic Left knows that the Middle East conflict is about suppressing Jewish human rights. Satanic Leftists support this suppression.

The Stupid Left thinks the Middle East conflict is about land and borders. The Satanic Left knows that it is about Israel's existence. The Stupid Left thinks Israel is a discriminatory apartheid country. The Satanic Left wants Israel destroyed so that the Arabs can impose an apartheid regime directed against the Jews and any other non-Moslems.

The Stupid Left believes that it is trying to reform and change America. The Satanic Left wants to destroy America.

The Stupid Left thinks socialism works. The Satanic Left wants socialism because it knows that socialism does not work.

The Stupid Left thinks it is opposing racism. The Satanic Left's fundamental urge is to impose its own mode of racism and anti-Semitism on the world.

The Stupid Left thinks Zionism is a form of racism. The Satanic Left supports anti-Zionism precisely because anti-Zionism is a form of anti-Semitism. The Stupid Left chooses its political positions on the basis of the desire by leftists to make their parents angry. So does the Satanic Left,but Satanic Leftists really hate their parents.

The Stupid Left says it favors equality. The Satanic Left favors transferring power to itself so that it can oppress others.

The Stupid Left supports Marxist groups all over the world because it thinks these are nonviolent and favor pluralism. The Satanic Left supports them because they know these are violent and totalitarian.
FuzzNJ Offline
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Failed at trolling.
Buckwheat Offline
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That's some pretty insightful Cut-n-Paste.
schusler Offline
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what? Think
z6joker9 Offline
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tl;dr
tweoijfoi Offline
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Who comes up with this crap?
bloody spaniard Offline
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I used to be just like you during the Cold War, youngblood.
Nowadays...ehh.Beer
bloody spaniard Offline
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tweoijfoi wrote:
Who comes up with this crap?




Most of what I skimmed over makes perfectly good sense to me.
To each their own (agenda).RollEyes
tweoijfoi Offline
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Most of what I skimmed over makes perfectly good sense to me.
To each their own (agenda).RollEyes


It would Beer
bloody spaniard Offline
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tweoijfoi wrote:
It would Beer



What's your excuse, all- knowing seer of truth?RollEyes RollEyes
tweoijfoi Offline
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bloody spaniard wrote:
What's your excuse, all- knowing seer of truth?RollEyes RollEyes


I dunno, describing half the populate of the US as stupid and/or evil is kind of a reach. If people actually believed this, you'd probably see a lot more guys on bell towers.

Boo hoo!
bloody spaniard Offline
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tweoijfoi wrote:
I dunno, describing half the populate of the US as stupid and/or evil is kind of a reach. If people actually believed this, you'd probably see a lot more guys on bell towers.

Boo hoo!



Don't be so defensive. I suspect that the left is only 20- 30% of the population.
I would probably further interpolate that only about one third of that is extreme left (satanic). The other two thirds are either naive and/or completely altruistic.
tweoijfoi Offline
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Ah, but according to the OP there is no 3rd kind of lefty. Just stupid or evil.

Not so defensive, just calling out garbage when I see it.
bloody spaniard Offline
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You know tweo, naivete and pure altruism (mostly forced upon the general population) can be interpreted as stupidity by some. I don't begrudge the OP's interpretation.
Toss the anger & open your horizons, grasshopper.


Btw, I've developed leftist leanings in my "old age"... if you consider putting aside one's personal interests to help out your fellow man a leftist leaning... otherwise known as Christianity but not limited thereto.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Tweo, did you read the thread title?

Like many opinions, this holds some small grain of truth as seen by some.

Also, on a forum you don't always read context or reasons why someone posts something. Politics threads here sometimes need a riling up. A verbal grab azz if you will.

To tell you why I posted this ruins the whole point of posting it. You want the punchline before a joke?
My response here is to tell you you're taking this much more seriously than I did. I don't like pigeon holing people into little boxes we are slightly more complex. For instance.......you could say Spanish men are overly hairy, or white guys from southern Oregon have distasteful senses of humor. You might be right but not in every instance.

I too have dabbled in leftism.

FuzzNJ Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Tweo, did you read the thread title?

Like many opinions, this holds some small grain of truth as seen by some.

Also, on a forum you don't always read context or reasons why someone posts something. Politics threads here sometimes need a riling up. A verbal grab azz if you will.

To tell you why I posted this ruins the whole point of posting it. You want the punchline before a joke?
My response here is to tell you you're taking this much more seriously than I did. I don't like pigeon holing people into little boxes we are slightly more complex. For instance.......you could say Spanish men are overly hairy, or white guys from southern Oregon have distasteful senses of humor. You might be right but not in every instance.

I too have dabbled in leftism.



You just threw a bunch of words together at random, didn't you?
ZRX1200 Offline
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I love you too precious.
bloody spaniard Offline
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OUCH! (laughing while reaching for Curads) Frying pan
ZRX1200 Offline
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Gotta break some eggs to make an omelet.......sorry dad.
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Precious outrage!
ZRX1200 Offline
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He's dumberfounded.......
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'Show me a young Conservative and I'll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I'll show you someone with no brains.' - Winston Churchill
tweoijfoi Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Tweo, did you read the thread title?

Like many opinions, this holds some small grain of truth as seen by some.

Also, on a forum you don't always read context or reasons why someone posts something. Politics threads here sometimes need a riling up. A verbal grab azz if you will.

To tell you why I posted this ruins the whole point of posting it. You want the punchline before a joke?
My response here is to tell you you're taking this much more seriously than I did. I don't like pigeon holing people into little boxes we are slightly more complex. For instance.......you could say Spanish men are overly hairy, or white guys from southern Oregon have distasteful senses of humor. You might be right but not in every instance.

I too have dabbled in leftism.



I tend to take things too seriously sometimes. Drool
Whistlebritches Offline
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Fuzz

So are you saying you're STUPID or SATANIC?????????My guess is you swing back and forth like a pendulum dibbling and dabbling in both but your base would lie more in the STUPID pile.



Ron
tweoijfoi Offline
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Lefty fuzz hates 'Merica.
ZRX1200 Offline
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No just alot of guys here.....
FuzzNJ Offline
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tweoijfoi wrote:
Lefty fuzz hates 'Merica.


But surprisingly loves apple pie.
Whistlebritches Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
But surprisingly loves apple pie.





There's an "American Pie" image I did not need.




Ron
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Whistlebritches wrote:
There's an "American Pie" image I did not need.




Ron



Typical Snickerdoodles fantasy:

Yeah...home all day...kiddies at school...wife is at work...time to bake and git it on!

Cue the Barry White music and put on some FoodTV! With the volume off.

When I'm done screwing the pie I'll log onto CBid and chat up with people that hate me because I don't even smoke cigars and just like talking about being an ubertwit.

Later when the fam is here, I'll round them all up and read my online exploits to them while they all laugh at me.
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