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Romney Changes His Stance On Abortion?
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Brewha Offline
#51 Posted: Sat, Oct 13 2012, 2:37 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
^ I largely agree. But I don't think it's all religious.

My ex wife and I took the morning after pill once (we were married at the time ) the guilt we both felt wasn't religious based it was in our hearts.


This I can understand. Any type of abortion is a dreadful thing.
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#52 Posted: Sat, Oct 13 2012, 2:56 PM EST
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I'm also in NICU all the time so maybe that and being a dad biases me.

I think its like that old saying "I know pornography when I see it".
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#53 Posted: Sat, Oct 13 2012, 3:12 PM EST
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I'm amazed and pleased to see some serious exchanges taking place on a nuclear topic while maintaining respect.

switching back to the heart of the op, I have seen Romney up close when he dropped in on Massachusetts during his insatiable tour of routes to the White House. He will say anything, anything, to get what he wants. He will portray himself as a true centrist to win in MA, he has claimed to be "a severely conservative man" not too many years later just a few months ago, he is already trying to soften and harden that stance depending on the audience and or what polls say voters want du jour...I am totally uncomfortable having him as the option when I have absolutely no idea what he really believes in other than satisfying his gigantic ego. And for Mitt, his true position on abortion will never be known. But no matter what you may think he is saying now, wait a minute, he will contradict it if it means votes. He brings new meaning to the term flip flop, no one is a close second.

I understand disliking, even hating the position and convictions of candidates on "the other side" of one's belief system, but this guy has no positions nor convictions that he means. He is a calculating chameleon, self serving untrustworthy waffler, and anyone buying he may advance their goals relating to legal abortion, good luck. You're mistaking him for a man of morals who conned you out of your vote.

To sum it up, I'm not surprised he has "changed" his stance on abortion, but can you really change opinions if you have none?
Brewha Offline
#54 Posted: Sat, Oct 13 2012, 4:42 PM EST
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The Kaw driver wins the point.



Back to the OP - as a Liberal Democrat I have a admittedly colored opinion of Romney and his platform; He is a mouth pieced for the concerns of big business and ruling class that own the country. He will take any stance required to get elected. And once in office he will deregulate his friends and their business concerns, pander the religious right to allow greater government control, and start another war purely for the money. In short he will take care of number one, ‘and number one ain’t you. You ain’t even number two.’.

Just say'n
ZRX1200 Offline
#55 Posted: Sat, Oct 13 2012, 7:29 PM EST
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^ I think BHO & Mittens will both take us to war

And not a defense so to speak, but I would much rather the private sector pick winners and looser rather than the govt. I think he (Romney) wanted this so bad he will do what the folks that really got him over the final hump expect.
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#56 Posted: Sat, Oct 13 2012, 8:37 PM EST
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Frank,
I know what we have with Obama, and even though what you say about Romney may be absolutely true, I'd rather take my chances with him. We just can't afford 4 more years of Obama. I personally don't like Romney one bit, but I'm ready for some Hope and CHANGE, baby, hope and CHANGE.
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#57 Posted: Sat, Oct 13 2012, 9:14 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Frank,
I know what we have with Obama, and even though what you say about Romney may be absolutely true, I'd rather take my chances with him. We just can't afford 4 more years of Obama. I personally don't like Romney one bit, but I'm ready for some Hope and CHANGE, baby, hope and CHANGE.

I get that, I really do. But Obama can be neutralized with a hostile congress as we have seen.

Sometimes the devil you know...

and I appreciate having a conversation rather than being attacked. Too bad the government can't do this.
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#58 Posted: Sun, Oct 14 2012, 6:08 AM EST
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ROBERT 1

IF YOU WATCHED HIM GREAT HIS VP CANDIDATE AT THE AIRPOT,
AND YOU WERE A STUDENT OF BODY LANGUAGE, YOU WOULD HAVE
SEEN HE HAS NO WARMTH FOR ANOTHER HUMAN BEING.

HE IS NOT A FLIP FLOPPER. THE MAN HAS NO CORE VALUES. HE IS
WHAT HE NEEDS TO BE AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT.

HE WANTS TO BE PESIDENT BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT
HE HAS NO INTEREST IN PERFORMING ANY OF THE DUTIES HE WOULD
HAVE AS PART OF THE JOB. HE DOESN'T EXIST IN THE NORMAL WORLD.

I HAVE WRITTEN TO SEVERAL PUNDITS AND ASKED THEM TO RESEARCH
THE IRS "FORGIVENESS PROGRAM" AND THEN ASK ROMNEY IF HE KNOWS
WHAT IT IS. IT IS A PROGRAM THAT TAX CROOKS CAN ADMIT WHAT THEY
DID, PAY HE TAX THEY OWE AND THE PENALTIES, WITHOUT PROSECUTION
BY THE IRS FOR TAX EVASION OR ANY OTHER LAWS THEY HAVE BROKEN,


WEN THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE BECAUSE OF FOREIGN BANKS REFUSAL TO DEVULGE INFORMATION ABOUT THE EVADER, CHEATER,
OR CROOK, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THE SOB.

THE TAX RETURN HE JUST SUBMITTED SHOWED HE DID NOT TAKE ALL THE
DEDUCTIONS HE WAS ALLOWED, BUT HE WANTED TO SHOW AT LEAST
14% TAX AND HE IS COMFORTABLE SHOWING THAT.

HE CAN LATER INCLUDE THAT IN A FUTURE TAX RETURN.

HE IS NOT AN EVIL MAN, HE JUST IS SMART ENOUGH NOT TO SHARE HIS
INCOME WITH THE FEDERAL GOERNMENT BECAUSE HE HAS NO REASON TO FEEL
THE NEEDS OF OTHERS LIKE FIXING A BRIDGE THAT MIGHT FALL BECAUSE IT
IS IN NEED OF REPAIR.

HE PUTS HIS DOG ON THE ROOF OF THE CAR WHEN HE TRAVELS. THAT SHOULD
TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THE MAN.
Brewha Offline
#59 Posted: Sun, Oct 14 2012, 2:02 PM EST
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Today I read the theory that Romney is really a machine, covered by living tissue, sent back from the future to raise Sarah Conner’s taxes.
ZRX1200 Offline
#60 Posted: Sun, Oct 14 2012, 2:11 PM EST
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LMAO! (^)

Rick which candidate has paid more $'s in taxed lifetime? I don't know but I suspect the droid did.

No warmth towards another human? I don't like him but suspect he's far more likely to help someone when he doesn't have to and no cameras are rolling than Barry and especially Biden. Those two aren't exactly "charitable".
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#61 Posted: Sun, Oct 14 2012, 2:21 PM EST
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...and who can forget ol' skinflint, nickel in the collection plate Gore or Slick Willy writing off his worn out, skid-marked skivvies?d'oh!
Brewha Offline
#62 Posted: Sun, Oct 14 2012, 2:54 PM EST
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LISTEN - And understand; that Romenator is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until the middle class is taxed to death!
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#63 Posted: Mon, Oct 15 2012, 5:35 AM EST
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ZRX1200

AND THIS HAS WHAT IO DO WITH THE FORGIVENESS PROGRAM
HockeyDad Offline
#64 Posted: Mon, Oct 15 2012, 6:24 AM EST
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The notion of Romney and some tax forgiveness program is a figment of your imagination to try to create a story of Romney having some sort of massive wealth hidden in Switzerland so that you can justify voting for Hope & Change again even though the Obama presidency has been a failure.

It's OK to stick with your failure. Maybe it will get better this time around. Maybe the Cone of Protection will get larger.
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#65 Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2012, 5:45 AM EST
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HockeyDad

DO YOU HAVE A BETTER REASON FOR HIM TO HIDE HIS TAXES?
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#66 Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2012, 6:05 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
HockeyDad

DO YOU HAVE A BETTER REASON FOR HIM TO HIDE HIS TAXES?



DO YOU HAVE A



BETTER REASON FOR



VOTING THE HOPEY CHANGEY



EMPTY SUIT...AGAIN?






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HockeyDad Offline
#67 Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2012, 7:54 AM EST
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Next term.......






Free Obama-Paint!
Brewha Offline
#68 Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2012, 5:18 PM EST
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Obama will crush the Romanator in the hydraulic press of democratic self righteousness. He will expose him as a cowardly misanthrope propped up by the right wing funding of his hyper-alloy endoskeleton. And than he will use the residual royalties to fund iPhone 5 upgrades for all of the good and true Americans . . . . .
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#69 Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2012, 6:28 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Obama crush the Romanator in the hydraulic press of democratic self righteousness. He will expose him as a cowardly misanthrope propped up by the right wing funding of his hyper-alloy endoskeleton. And than he will use the residual royalties to fund iPhone 5 upgrades for all of the good and true Americans . . . . .

I literally wept, but am still searching for a phone downgrade. Just want one for phone calls. don't even wanna camera.

How should I vote?
Brewha Offline
#70 Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2012, 7:16 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I literally wept, but am still searching for a phone downgrade. Just want one for phone calls. don't even wanna camera.

How should I vote?


You should vote your beliefs. At least that is what Siri told me. And she is seldom wrong – so she must be a liberal.
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#71 Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2012, 7:37 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
You should vote your beliefs. At least that is what Siri told me. And she is seldom wrong – so she must be a liberal.

I feel better. Thank her for me, I would but my phone only takes pictures, usually of the inside of my pocket.
Brewha Offline
#72 Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2012, 7:45 PM EST
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I did. Siri said ‘There is a problem right now, can you try again later?’

Now I know why they made her a woman . . . .
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#73 Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2012, 8:27 PM EST
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Romney Changes His Stance On Abortion?

Too bad his Mom didn't 66 years ago.
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#74 Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2012, 8:29 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Romney Changes His Stance On Abortion?

Too bad his Mom didn't 66 years ago.


no wire coathangers then,
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#75 Posted: Tue, Oct 16 2012, 8:32 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Romney Changes His Stance On Abortion?

Too bad his Mom didn't 66 years ago.


ZINGGGGG!!!!!!!
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