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Poll Question : 2013 Fiscal Cliff Solutions
Choice Votes Statistics
Allow massive tax increases and recession 3 37 %
Increase borrowing and deficit spending 5 62 %
Total 8 100%

Obama's Economy and Taxageddon
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HockeyDad Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 11:18 AM EST
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500 billion USD in tax increases are coming on January 1 2013 but it is not an election topic. The Congressional Budget Office already has stated that it will put the US economy into a recession.
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#2 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 11:27 AM EST
Joined: 01-24-2003
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HockeyDad wrote:
500 billion USD in tax increases are coming on January 1 2013 but it is not an election topic. The Congressional Budget Office already has stated that it will put the US economy into a recession.


At the last minute congress will find extend the tax cuts and fund it with a new credit card at just 29.9% interest. horse
jackconrad Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 12:29 PM EST
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SPEND n NUKE !
DrMaddVibe Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 12:52 PM EST
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NONE OF THE ABOVE!horse
DrafterX Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 12:56 PM EST
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where's the 'ignore and maybe it'll go away' option..?? Huh
DrMaddVibe Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 12:58 PM EST
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SLASH the budget...ya know the thing that Congress is SUPPOSED to pass EVERY year, but hasn't since the Kenyan King has been in power.

Let's FINALLY get a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution put in place. These criminals with our taxpaying dollars at hostage have overspent on Stupidity.

There are cuts that need to be made.

The military NEEDS a drastic haircut. Sorry, but putting a base in every continent, in every nation, in every city isn't cost prohibitive! We can still maintain a top notch fighting force with upgraded weapon systems AND bring the troops home.

This constant kicking the can down the road has enabled this poor behavior that has put us in this place. Now they're all pointing at each other placing blame on parties? No...start the treason trials already and dereliction of duty charges. We have the laws already on the books time to use them!
Brewha Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 2:11 PM EST
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I admire how the two options seem to take a complex and difficult problem, fraught with detailed choices, and reduce it to a simple go left or go right decision. For a moment they almost looked like real choices. But life is so much better with simple, simple choices, and the bliss of ignoring details – is it not?

I’m imagining how you assess the complexity of cigars . . . .
DrMaddVibe Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 2:13 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
I admire how the two options seem to take a complex and difficult problem, fraught with detailed choices, and reduce it to a simple go left or go right decision. For a moment they almost looked like real choices. But life is so much better with simple, simple choices, and the bliss of ignoring details – is it not?

I’m imagining how you assess the complexity of cigars . . . .



Do you even smoke cigars?Herfing
Brewha Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 2:40 PM EST
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Yes I do. In fact when I smoke is one of the few times that I am not spewing my liberal crap.

Shhh
DrMaddVibe Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 2:45 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Yes I do. In fact when I smoke is one of the few times that I am not spewing my liberal crap.

Shhh



You should really consider smoking 24 hours a day then.
Papachristou Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 2:50 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
where's the 'ignore and maybe it'll go away' option..?? Huh


hey, worked for greece didnt it?
HockeyDad Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 3:29 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
I admire how the two options seem to take a complex and difficult problem, fraught with detailed choices, and reduce it to a simple go left or go right decision. For a moment they almost looked like real choices. But life is so much better with simple, simple choices, and the bliss of ignoring details – is it not?

I’m imagining how you assess the complexity of cigars . . . .


Your alternative solution is noted.
Brewha Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 3:37 PM EST
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I know – let’s take all that money from the Reagan trickle down and pay off the debt. It should be along any day now . . . .
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 3:40 PM EST
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No trickle down money .... they spent it all on Obamaphones.... Sad
Brewha Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 3:56 PM EST
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Reaganomics amounted to Obamaphones? OK, that does ring true.

Still no iPhone 5 upgrade for Brewha . . . .
DadZilla3 Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 5:04 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
I admire how the two options seem to take a complex and difficult problem, fraught with detailed choices, and reduce it to a simple go left or go right decision. For a moment they almost looked like real choices. But life is so much better with simple, simple choices, and the bliss of ignoring details – is it not?

I’m imagining how you assess the complexity of cigars . . . .

Both choices have been tried by one administration or another, and both choices have failed to the tune of $58 trillion dollars give or take a billion here and there.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Brewha Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 7:47 PM EST
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So faced with inheriting reckless Bush economic policies, Clinton chose which one of these approaches?
Whistlebritches Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 7:52 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
So faced with inheriting reckless Bush economic policies, Clinton chose which one of these approaches?



I believe Clinton chose Monica......................and her tongue(hey does anybody here know how to spell T-U-N-G)stud.



Ron
Brewha Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 7:55 PM EST
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So there are three choices; ruin, destruction, and head?

Clinton was wise . . . . .
jackconrad Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 8:05 PM EST
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We need ROMNEYVISION !
engletl Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 8:19 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
SLASH the budget...ya know the thing that Congress is SUPPOSED to pass EVERY year, but hasn't since the Kenyan King has been in power.

Let's FINALLY get a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution put in place. These criminals with our taxpaying dollars at hostage have overspent on Stupidity.

There are cuts that need to be made.

The military NEEDS a drastic haircut. Sorry, but putting a base in every continent, in every nation, in every city isn't cost prohibitive! We can still maintain a top notch fighting force with upgraded weapon systems AND bring the troops home.

This constant kicking the can down the road has enabled this poor behavior that has put us in this place. Now they're all pointing at each other placing blame on parties? No...start the treason trials already and dereliction of duty charges. We have the laws already on the books time to use them!


So true..we shut down all those bases and bring em all home, then we could afford to not only build new ships but also to do alot to secure our borders as well
dpnewell Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 9:29 PM EST
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engletl wrote:
So true..we shut down all those bases and bring em all home, then we could afford to not only build new ships but also to do alot to secure our borders as well


Us Libertarians are the only ones with the balls to do that. Never happen with either one of the jokers running right now.
engletl Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 10:15 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Us Libertarians are the only ones with the balls to do that. Never happen with either one of the jokers running right now.

Agree 100%
But unfortunately "fringe" candidates are laughed upon at best
jetblasted Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Oct 29 2012, 10:29 PM EST
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This is an interesting video presentation about the deficit. Tony Robbins talks about what a trillion really is, and if we taxed the rich, hell, took all profits from all Fortune 500 companies, all the millionaires, etc, etc, etc, it wouldn't come close to paying down even one year worth of debt. It takes 10 billion dollars a day to run the US, and we have to borrow 4 billion just to pay for it. Some interesting facts presented here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRaLytkf6vU
DrMaddVibe Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Oct 30 2012, 9:52 AM EST
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http://winteryknight.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/obama_record_november_2011.jpg
HockeyDad Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Oct 30 2012, 9:56 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
http://winteryknight.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/obama_record_november_2011.jpg



Kick -ass! The only thing missing is a collapse of lender confidence that leads to forced austerity as the USA losses its ability to borrow money.

(I've said all along, the Obama Cone of Protection was a lot smaller than people expected)
DrMaddVibe Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Oct 30 2012, 10:10 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Kick -ass! The only thing missing is a collapse of lender confidence that leads to forced austerity as the USA losses its ability to borrow money.

(I've said all along, the Obama Cone of Protection was a lot smaller than people expected)



Just wait...the cheerleaders...the ones not getting a damn thing...will be along shortly!
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