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victor809 Offline
#101 Posted: Tue, Dec 4 2012, 2:33 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
vic,
I'm still waiting for you to use your knowledge and explain how and why women use birth control for reasons other than sex.
I mean, I had already cited medical concerns, both specific and in general, so you couldn't possibly mean that.

So please tell us why they would use contraception other than the two reasons I offered.

Because you described in great detail how much YOU know about women, and since I was a virtual virgin prior to my marriage I truly want to live vicariously through YOU. You're like a tall and slightly more masculine Dr. Ruth.

Without the accent, I imagine.


Look at the study I cited.
That study shows high percentages choosing it for multiple non-medical and non contraceptive reasons.

I can give you examples from women I've dated before, but that's just anecdotal. Statistically I could tell you of the women I've bothered asking about their decision, probably about 20% actually were on the pill only to prevent pregnancy. But I wasn't taking notes....
HockeyDad Offline
#102 Posted: Tue, Dec 4 2012, 3:44 PM EST
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Where's that "BS Flag" smiley?
tailgater Offline
#103 Posted: Tue, Dec 4 2012, 4:28 PM EST
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"look at the study I cited"

As if reading you isn't tedious on it's own, now you're giving homework to drive the point home?
victor809 Offline
#104 Posted: Tue, Dec 4 2012, 4:56 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
"look at the study I cited"

As if reading you isn't tedious on it's own, now you're giving homework to drive the point home?



You ask me for information, I give you information. I'm like a freaking oracle for you people....
Brewha Offline
#105 Posted: Tue, Dec 4 2012, 6:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You ask me for information, I give you information. I'm like a freaking oracle for you people....

You are a credit to your race.
DrafterX Offline
#106 Posted: Tue, Dec 4 2012, 7:24 PM EST
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stupid batman is a race..?? Huh

I thought it was a mental disorder.... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#107 Posted: Tue, Dec 4 2012, 7:45 PM EST
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Wait, "you people"?

ram27bat
DrafterX Offline
#108 Posted: Tue, Dec 4 2012, 8:02 PM EST
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Ya..!! Mad
Brewha Offline
#109 Posted: Tue, Dec 4 2012, 8:16 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You ask me for information, I give you information. I'm like a freaking oracle for you people....


Remember Victor, information is not knowledge.
DrafterX Offline
#110 Posted: Tue, Dec 4 2012, 8:31 PM EST
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'You don't have to beleive everything you think' - Abraham Lincoln
Brewha Offline
#111 Posted: Tue, Dec 4 2012, 10:38 PM EST
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" . . . it was just a shot in the dark."

- John Wilkes Booth
victor809 Offline
#112 Posted: Wed, Dec 5 2012, 9:16 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Remember Victor, information is not knowledge.


n·for·ma·tion [in-fer-mey-shuh n]
noun
1. knowledge communicated or received concerning a particular fact or circumstance; news: information concerning a crime.
2. knowledge gained through study, communication, research, instruction, etc.; factual data: His wealth of general information is amazing.

Jesus Brew... if you were any more willing to throw our nice sounding but completely incorrect platitudes I'd think you were a republican.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#113 Posted: Wed, Dec 5 2012, 9:53 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
n·for·ma·tion [in-fer-mey-shuh n]
noun
1. knowledge communicated or received concerning a particular fact or circumstance; news: information concerning a crime.
2. knowledge gained through study, communication, research, instruction, etc.; factual data: His wealth of general information is amazing.

Jesus Brew... if you were any more willing to throw our nice sounding but completely incorrect platitudes I'd think you were a republican.



It's Jesus Juice...idiot!whip
tailgater Offline
#114 Posted: Wed, Dec 5 2012, 10:25 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
It's Jesus Juice...idiot!whip


But jesus brew would be so much more delicious.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#115 Posted: Wed, Dec 5 2012, 10:34 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
But jesus brew would be so much more delicious.


Heavenly!Beer
Brewha Offline
#116 Posted: Wed, Dec 5 2012, 4:50 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
n·for·ma·tion [in-fer-mey-shuh n]
noun
1. knowledge communicated or received concerning a particular fact or circumstance; news: information concerning a crime.
2. knowledge gained through study, communication, research, instruction, etc.; factual data: His wealth of general information is amazing.

Jesus Brew... if you were any more willing to throw our nice sounding but completely incorrect platitudes I'd think you were a republican.


There are, of course, many levels of understanding . . . .

My statement was a point of clarity in philosophy – a “truism”. It is as a hand pointing the way to the moon. If you get caught up in the hand you will never find the moon. Looks like you didn’t get past the finger. It is meant to remind us that bits of information, facts, about a things or happenings do not provide full understating (knowledge) of them. I like this reminder because there is a lot of inductive reasoning in the world – and the conclusions are often taken as fact.

Here is another one; If a tree falls in the forest and no man is there to hear it, does it make a sound?
What do you think? And please don’t quote the definition of sound.

HockeyDad Offline
#117 Posted: Wed, Dec 5 2012, 4:56 PM EST
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If a tree falls in the forest and no man is there to hear it, does it make a sound......who cares! Cut down the rest of them before the environmental/eco-terrorists notice!
victor809 Offline
#118 Posted: Wed, Dec 5 2012, 5:07 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
There are, of course, many levels of understanding . . . .

My statement was a point of clarity in philosophy – a “truism”. It is as a hand pointing the way to the moon. If you get caught up in the hand you will never find the moon. Looks like you didn’t get past the finger. It is meant to remind us that bits of information, facts, about a things or happenings do not provide full understating (knowledge) of them. I like this reminder because there is a lot of inductive reasoning in the world – and the conclusions are often taken as fact.

Here is another one; If a tree falls in the forest and no man is there to hear it, does it make a sound?
What do you think? And please don’t quote the definition of sound.



And this is why I called you a republican.

Your initial platitude was "information" and "knowledge". No mention was made of understanding.

As for a "truism" all truisms are meaningless unless supported by actual, truth. This is how your pithy statement, which meant nothing, could sound so good and yet be so wrong. In your explanation, you tried to equate knowledge with understanding, but they are much further apart than information and knowledge.
Brewha Offline
#119 Posted: Wed, Dec 5 2012, 8:30 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
And this is why I called you a republican.

Your initial platitude was "information" and "knowledge". No mention was made of understanding.

As for a "truism" all truisms are meaningless unless supported by actual, truth. This is how your pithy statement, which meant nothing, could sound so good and yet be so wrong. In your explanation, you tried to equate knowledge with understanding, but they are much further apart than information and knowledge.


One it taught in accordance with ones fitness to learn, even if the lesson is wasted.

If your vision of me is a republican, it is not I that lacks understanding. Remedial courses was never my specialty. Btw, There is little philosophical learning in the dictionary. But I suppose your vast knowledge would deny that as well.
tailgater Offline
#120 Posted: Wed, Dec 5 2012, 11:13 PM EST
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If a tree falls in a forest, and no man is there to hear it, then it might make a sound.
It all depends on where the grant money came from to study it...
victor809 Offline
#121 Posted: Wed, Dec 5 2012, 11:50 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
One it taught in accordance with ones fitness to learn, even if the lesson is wasted.

l.

Another "truism"...

Come on brewha... seriously? That is again, a meaningless waste of words. (I should know, I'm the most likely to use 10 words when 5 would suffice).
ZRX1200 Offline
#122 Posted: Thu, Dec 6 2012, 12:35 AM EST
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*ahem*


JPotts is still king there bub.
Brewha Offline
#123 Posted: Thu, Dec 6 2012, 12:38 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Another "truism"...

Come on brewha... seriously? That is again, a meaningless waste of words. (I should know, I'm the most likely to use 10 words when 5 would suffice).


The words have meaning, to be sure. Not seeing the meaning would stir some to curiosity, but they seem to frustrate you.
I enjoyed this exchange, as you have satisfied my curiosity. If you use too many words, perhaps I use too few. I guess it is in how you look at it and who you are.

The eye only sees what the eye looks for,
And the foot only feels the foot when it feels the ground.

I know – meaningless words.
At least for now.
DrafterX Offline
#124 Posted: Thu, Dec 6 2012, 1:42 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
And the foot only feels the foot when it feels the ground.



unless you kick the bedpost or something... Sad
DrMaddVibe Offline
#125 Posted: Thu, Dec 6 2012, 1:46 PM EST
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"Isms" in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an "ism", he should believe in himself.
tailgater Offline
#126 Posted: Thu, Dec 6 2012, 2:58 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
"Isms" in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an "ism", he should believe in himself.


I believe I'll have another beer...
Brewha Offline
#127 Posted: Thu, Dec 6 2012, 7:41 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I believe I'll have another beer...

I believe I'll join you.
Alcohol'ism'. It gives me something to believe in . . . .
DrafterX Offline
#128 Posted: Thu, Dec 6 2012, 7:56 PM EST
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Well I see him on the Tv
Preachin' bout the promise land
He tells me to believe in Jesus
And steals the money from my hand

Some say he was a good man
But Lord I think he sinned, yeah

Twenty-two years of mental tears
Cries a suicidal Vietnam vet
Who fought a losing war on a foreign shore
To find his country didn't want him back

Their bullets took his best friend in Saigon
Our lawyers took his wife, his kids, no regrets
In a time I don't remember
In a war he can't forget

He cries "Forgive me for what I've done there
Cause I never meant the things I did"

Chorus:
And give me something to believe in
If there's a Lord above
And give me something to believe in
Oh, Lord arise

Our best friend died a lonely man
In some Palm Springs hotel room
I got the call last Christmas Eve
And they told me the news
I tried all night not to break down and cry
As the tears rolled down my face
I felt so cold and empty
Like a lost soul out of place

And the mirror, mirror on the wall
Sees my smile it fades again

Chorus

Sometimes I wish to God I didn't know now
The things I didn't know then
Road you gotta take me home

I drive by the homeless sleepin on a cold dark street
Like bodies in and open grave
Underneath the broken old neon sign
That used to read JESUS SAVES

A mile away live the rich folk
And I see how they're living it up
While the poor they eat from hand to mouth
The rich is drinkin' from a golden cup

And it just makes me wonder
Why so many lose, so few win

Chorus

You take the high road
And I'll take the low road

Sometime I wish I didn't know now
The things I didn't know then

And give me something to believe in.... :-"
tailgater Offline
#129 Posted: Fri, Dec 7 2012, 9:43 AM EST
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^your words are like poison...
HockeyDad Offline
#130 Posted: Fri, Dec 7 2012, 10:53 AM EST
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Poison sucks.
jpotts Offline
#131 Posted: Fri, Dec 7 2012, 12:06 PM EST
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What surprises me about this thread is that someone actually thought Time magzine had any credibility.
jpotts Offline
#132 Posted: Fri, Dec 7 2012, 12:07 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Another "truism"...

Come on brewha... seriously? That is again, a meaningless waste of words. (I should know, I'm the most likely to use 10 words when 5 would suffice).



Pfft!

Amature.
ZRX1200 Offline
#133 Posted: Fri, Dec 7 2012, 12:29 PM EST
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Applause

Welcome home!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#134 Posted: Fri, Dec 7 2012, 2:23 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Poison sucks.



Every rose has a thornWhistle
ZRX1200 Offline
#135 Posted: Fri, Dec 7 2012, 2:28 PM EST
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You give me something to believe in.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#136 Posted: Fri, Dec 7 2012, 2:33 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
You give me something to believe in.



I want action...tonight...satisfaction...all right.
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