sd72 wrote:Yup. People living in company towns, paid with chits only good in company stores, living in company housing, and working 16 hour days was better.
How do you think unions came about?
Unions came about because of a new wave of socialist thinking imported from Europe.
Those company towns, company stores, and company housing came about because many of these people who joined these companies didn't have a pot to p*ss in, and had no means to provide form themelves. Back in those days, skilled trades were few, ans a huge majority of people were either farmers, or unskilled labors. Likewise those company towns were not located in suburbs - they were generally in remote areas. Someone had to provide food, clothing, and shelter for the people working the mines.
Your understanding of history is rather lacking.
sd72 wrote:Company's drove people to stand together, and form unions.
Unions took the ball and ran it into corruption, and waste.
Virtually every union has been infiltrated by organized crime.
Nowadays, in Michigan, forced unionization if en vogue. If you provide dacare services, they tried to force you into a union. If you provide care for your own relatives in your homes, they made an attempt to unionize you (ballot in the last election cycle).
You are SO full of crap on this one, it is coming out of your ears.
I'd say something about "sleeping with the dogs and waking up with the fleas," but what else would you expect from a bunch or reprobate socialists?
sd72 wrote:Guess what happens now? Do you see a pattern?the government is reactive, and won't enforce any type of worker protection from the company's who are about to cash in on all of us. Well all be paying for the pension funds that are insured by the Feds that are about to lose member funding. And well pay for it with about $8 an hour average pay.
Pfftth. You know *NOTHING* about what goes on with these unions in these "corporations trying to cash in on the rest of us." Yeah, like unions in the car companies don't slow down production to force OT, right? Or threaten you while you're in the plant if they think that what you're installing might "cost union jobs," right?
Yeah, GM is just doing stellar these days.
Most of the manufacturing that's moved out of Michigan has done so because of the cost of unionized labor. People expect to get a salary of $16.00 / hr, with benefits, and a pension when a three-year-old could do the job. Yeah, that's progress all right.
Speaking of "cashing in," ever seen the incomes of those top union "representatives?"
You are an idiot.
sd72 wrote:Sorry about your buddy jpotts, I'm sure the big bad unions had nothing better to do than run a small owner operator business in to the ground for fear of going under because of him. Easy to blame failure on everything but what's in the mirror.
Yeah, because there's no telling what other union people might do when they see someone making a decent living pouring basements and NOT having to give up 15% of their income to a bunch of union idiots who rarely make good on their promises.
Unions, like the communist chineese, and the soviets don't want their people getting any funny ideas that they can forge their own destiny without them.