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Billionaires Warn Higher Taxes Could
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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Introducing a new wrinkle into the already fraught fiscal cliff showdown,
a consortium of billionaires today warned that if their taxes are raised
they will no longer have enough money to buy politicians.

The group, led by casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson, commissioned
a new study showing that the cost of an average politician has soared
exponentially over the past decade.

While the American family has seen increases in the cost of food,
health care and education, Mr. Adelson says, “those costs don’t compare
with the cost of buying a politician, which has gone through the roof.”

The casino billionaire points to his group’s study, which puts the cost
of purchasing an average House member at two million dollars
and an average senator at several times that.

“And let’s say you buy a Senator like [South Carolina Senator]
Jim DeMint and he decides to quit,” Mr. Adelson says. “Good luck trying
to get your money back.”

The Vegas magnate complains that the media has ignored billionaires’
essential role in giving jobs to politicians who would otherwise have
difficulty finding “honest work of any kind.”

“Billionaires are providing employment for agroup of seriously incompetent
and marginal people,” Mr. Adelson says. “You raise taxes on us, and who’s
going to create those jobs? I really don’t think people have thought this
through.”

Adding insult to injury for America’s billionaires, he says, “the simple dream
of someday owning a President is slipping out of reach.”

“People think a billion dollars buys you aPresident, but they’re wrong,” he says.
“It barely gets you a lemon like Mitt Romney
.”
Abrignac Online
#2 Posted:
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Rick if you're weren't so blatantly biased you would be far more relevant. The money you speak of flows down the river before meandering relatively equally through both sides.
Brewha Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Rick if you're weren't so blatantly biased you would be far more relevant. The money you speak of flows down the river before meandering relatively equally through both sides.

Exactly. My Reagan era trickle down will be coming in any day now.


Any day now.






Any day now . . . .
rfenst Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Rick if you're weren't so blatantly biased you would be far more relevant. The money you speak of flows down the river before meandering relatively equally through both sides.


He's no more biased than anyone else around here. You just don't like his particular "flavor" of bias. So, you consider him irrelevant- because some of what he espouses contradicts your beliefs (which no one wants to have questioned, challenged or to have to change).

What Rick posted is fictional. What makes it funny to me is that we all know it is probably very true, not necessarily by Adelson but by others, that politicians are "bought". And, it is that uncomfortable truth that only the wealthy can afford to do this makes the satire funny.

Try substituting the name of some liberal you believe buys politicians and is so wealthy he can afford it- then smile or laugh a bit with some of us. Angel

Abrignac Online
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rfenst wrote:
He's no more biased than anyone else around here. You just don't like his particular "flavor" of bias. So, you consider him irrelevant- because some of what he espouses contradicts your beliefs (which no one wants to have questioned, challenged or to have to change).

What Rick posted is fictional. What makes it funny to me is that we all know it is probably very true, not necessarily by Adelson but by others, that politicians are "bought". And, it is that uncomfortable truth that only the wealthy can afford to do this makes the satire funny.

Try substituting the name of some liberal you believe buys politicians and is so wealthy he can afford it- then smile or laugh a bit with some of us. Angel



Nah it's the grammar, spelling, color and all caps that nag me. Other than that to each his/her own.
sd72 Offline
#6 Posted:
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How much $ for a Detroit city counsel person? Senators and such, are out of my price range.
HockeyDad Offline
#7 Posted:
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This is exactly why I prefer a one-party system.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#8 Posted:
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Abrignac

how does the fact that i don't own a tie or a pair of socks, usually
don't wear underwear when i go out of my cave to eat or shop. and
i cut the ashes from the end of a cigar i didn't finish the day before,
and my flavor of the moment is sun grown, fuentes being my current
choice, even though they coast more then $3.00, and i have my blood
line continuing with my grandson, levi who is not only beautiful, but
even smarter and more tuned into himself at a year and a half then
his father was at that age.

next sept toby and i will celebrate 50 years of being together with all
the trials of marriage. and we still are not bored with each other.

we have two parrots for over 20 years, an african grey and a rose
breasted cockato that likes being stroked under the wings and a
shi-tzu, an english bull dog, a rescus jack russel terrier, and a rescue
mutt, 7 pounds wet or dry, part chihuahua and some kind of terrier mix,
who is having his balls removed tomorrow because he is trying to
impregnate my 38 pound bulldog.

how does that nag at you or do you want a stool speciman.
DrafterX Offline
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Blink
rfenst Offline
#10 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:


how does that nag at you or do you want a stool speciman.


LMAO!!!
DadZilla3 Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
Introducing a new wrinkle into the already fraught fiscal cliff showdown,
a consortium of billionaires today warned that if their taxes are raised
they will no longer have enough money to buy politicians.

Not so. It's the immutable laws of supply and demand economics. As billionaires have less and less money to spend on buying politicians due to higher taxation, the politicians will lower their prices in competition with one another in order to to maintain their 'grey area' sources of income.

In other words to paraphrase the old joke, politicians have already proven what they are...it'd only be a matter of haggling their price.
dpnewell Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:


Adding insult to injury for America’s billionaires, he says, “the simple dream
of someday owning a President is slipping out of reach.”

“People think a billion dollars buys you aPresident, but they’re wrong,” he says.
“It barely gets you a lemon like Mitt Romney
.”


Silly Billionare. Everyone knows that only George Soros is allowed to buy elections and own his own president....
victor809 Offline
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Not so. It's the immutable laws of supply and demand economics. As billionaires have less and less money to spend on buying politicians due to higher taxation, the politicians will lower their prices in competition with one another in order to to maintain their 'grey area' sources of income.

In other words to paraphrase the old joke, politicians have already proven what they are...it'd only be a matter of haggling their price.


Finally... Zilla and I can agree on something.
frankj1 Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Rick if you're weren't so blatantly biased you would be far more relevant. The money you speak of flows down the river before meandering relatively equally through both sides.

the opening satirical "article" just happened to use a well known billionaire, Adelson, who is currently a big GOP supporter. But it was not a poke at conservatives as much as the fact that billionaires buy poiticians.

It just so happens that Adelson is a local Boston neighborhood product (Dorchester) and spent many years as a politically active Democrat. It's possible he is looking for "input" into US policy making and just backed the wrong horse in the race.

But billionaires of all politcal beliefs do the same, the story works against all of them. In this case, I believe Rick is not guilty of his typically purposeful provocative bias. Funny is funny.
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frankj1

not guilty? like oj was not guilty?

actually he wanted into macau.

in that region of the world where gambling is an obsession there is no country
that allows gambling except macau, and like the mafia using vegas as their back
yard when they lost cuba, addelson wanted a president who could give him a line
pass into the macau government, and he wanted exclusivity, or favored person
credentials
HockeyDad Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
frankj1

not guilty? like oj was not guilty?

actually he wanted into macau.

in that region of the world where gambling is an obsession there is no country
that allows gambling except macau, and like the mafia using vegas as their back
yard when they lost cuba, addelson wanted a president who could give him a line
pass into the macau government, and he wanted exclusivity, or favored person
credentials




Relax.....Obama's got this.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Relax.....Obama's got this.



Wait..OJ wants to go to Macau and the Kenyan King is on the job gonna give it to him?Think
HockeyDad Offline
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I think we're gonna invade Macau and plant citrus or something with stimulus/reconstruction money.
DrafterX Offline
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yes, because there isn't enough corn to support E-15 so we'll have to start buring oranges too.... d'oh!
frankj1 Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
frankj1

not guilty? like oj was not guilty?

actually he wanted into macau.

in that region of the world where gambling is an obsession there is no country
that allows gambling except macau, and like the mafia using vegas as their back
yard when they lost cuba, addelson wanted a president who could give him a line
pass into the macau government, and he wanted exclusivity, or favored person
credentials

Rick

You misunderstood me...I said you were not guilty of bias by posting the op. In this case, the target of the satire was the idea that all billionaires would not be able to afford to buy off senators if their taxes went up. Adelson was just a spokesman for the group. party affiliation was not the issue...imho.
HockeyDad Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
yes, because there isn't enough corn to support E-15 so we'll have to start buring oranges too.... d'oh!



I've got 6 orange trees. Ima apply for a million dollars in grant money from the DOE.
HockeyDad Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
Rick

You misunderstood me...I said you were not guilty of bias by posting the op. In this case, the target of the satire was the idea that all billionaires would not be able to afford to buy off senators if their taxes went up. Adelson was just a spokesman for the group. party affiliation was not the issue...imho.



I think that puts you in the "no stool sample needed" category.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#23 Posted:
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When they start eating their own...best just let 'em finish.
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victor809 wrote:
Finally... Zilla and I can agree on something.

That's twice now; a disturbing trend to say the least. I'd better throw some old people out into the snow or something and get my evil conservative mojo back...
frankj1 Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I think that puts you in the "no stool sample needed" category.

I admit it, I laughed.
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