Hey Slim, I agree with your "Trash/Treasure" idea. Hell, I think the Diesel is a great cigar! But as far as Cameroons go, have you tried the Revolucion? I really like this cigar. If it weren't box-pressed, it would be a near-perfect smoke for me. I tried 7 or 8 of the ITDCs they just never did it for me. Not a bad cigar, certainly worth a try for anyone at the close-out price.