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Teacher gets it wrong.
tailgater Offline
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Junior high teacher tells kid to remove Marines t-shirt or get suspended

Posted By Eric Owens On 7:33 AM 02/27/2013

The latest bit of anti-gun hysteria erupted in a school setting on Monday when an eighth-grade teacher threatened a 14-year-old boy with suspension if he did not remove his t-shirt supporting the United States Marines.

The incident occurred in a reading class at Genoa-Kingston Middle School in a small town in northeast Illinois. The teacher, Karen Deverell, believed the interlocking rifles emblazoned across Michael McIntyre’s shirt violated the school’s dress code, reports Fox News.

McIntyre’s father, Daniel McIntyre, said Deverell made him turn the shirt inside out for the rest of the day. He also noted that the boy had worn the shirt to school on many previous occasions without threats of suspension.

“My son is very proud of the Marines, and, in fact, of all the services,” the elder McIntyre told Fox News. “So he wears it with pride. There are two rifles crossed underneath the word ‘Marines’ on the shirt, but to me that should be overlooked. It’s more about the Marines instead of the rifles.”

Daniel McIntyre added that his son was upset about the situation.

“He couldn’t understand why a teacher would make him do that,” he said.

According to a local newspaper, school officials (beyond the teacher) had not been aware of the kerfuffle until Fox News — which had the story first — notified administrators late Monday.

Superintendent Joe Burgess told the DeKalb Daily Chronicle that Deverell’s superiors would have immediately overruled the teacher’s interpretation of the school district’s dress code had they known about it.

“Very simply, it’s not a violation,” Burgess told the Daily Chronicle. “It’s a very common symbol for the U.S. Marines. Had we had an opportunity to discuss it, we could have straightened out the situation.”

Burgess added that teachers in his district who aren’t sure about dress code violations should send students to the principal’s office for a second opinion — and a final determination.

According to Fox News, the school district’s clothing policy doesn’t appear to address guns on shirts that show support for the United States military with any specificity. The closest rule that applies reads: “Student dress (including accessories) may not advertise, promote, or picture alcoholic beverages, illegal drugs, drug paraphernalia, violent behavior, or other inappropriate images.”

Daniel McIntyre believes the policy is too vague if a teacher can believe that his son’s shirt was a violation. He wants to meet with school officials to argue for a change.

“I have a close relationship with the county Marines and a lot of respect for them, and my son does, too,” McIntyre told the Daily Chronicle. “I really couldn’t tell you what the teacher was thinking.”





But the good news is that the Superintendent got it right. And wasn't afraid to say so.

This is clearly a case of the teacher enforcing her own beliefs. There is no way she misinterpretted the dress code. She's just an anti-gun leftist and knows the union will back her regardless of her poor decisions.

daveincincy Offline
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kerfuffle...
dubleuhb Offline
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Political correctness gone mad.
HockeyDad Offline
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Civilians should not have access to Marine shirts
daveincincy Offline
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Membership is only a t-shirt away.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Let's buy tshirts for the whole class...speaking of which...why are they still teaching "Reading" in middle school? Are the kids retarded?
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
why are they still teaching "Reading" in middle school? Are the kids retarded?



illegitimate.... Mellow
CapeFear Offline
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Wow...and this is someone who is supposed to be educating our kids? I hope it wasn't in history class...

One more reason why we'll be homeschooling our kids...I'm not the sharpest tack by far, but certainly not as dumb as this idjit.
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Teacher did something silly. School said they would have reversed it if they had known. Parents made a big deal about. News made a big deal out it. People on the internet made a big deal about it. It's not a big deal.
DrafterX Offline
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I heard the kid was a tard and all the other kids laughed and threw stuff at him cause he had his shirt on backwards.... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard the kid was a tard and all the other kids laughed and threw stuff at him cause he had his shirt on backwards.... Mellow



Oh well...Guns up in the air blazin!

Buy a shotgun....buy a shotgun!horse
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z6joker9 wrote:
Teacher did something silly. School said they would have reversed it if they had known. Parents made a big deal about. News made a big deal out it. People on the internet made a big deal about it. It's not a big deal.



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BIG DEAL
DrMaddVibe Offline
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I think it was our stupid Vice President that said it best when he said..."It's a big **** ing deal"
tailgater Offline
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z6joker9 wrote:
Teacher did something silly. School said they would have reversed it if they had known. Parents made a big deal about. News made a big deal out it. People on the internet made a big deal about it. It's not a big deal.


So when a teacher forces a kid to turn his shirt inside out because she perceives our military as offensive, that's "silly".

But when we discuss the situation on a forum inteneded for such topics, we're making a big deal out of it.


Gotcha.

Don't look now, but your bias is showing.

DrMaddVibe Offline
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tailgater wrote:
So when a teacher forces a kid to turn his shirt inside out because she perceives our military as offensive, that's "silly".

But when we discuss the situation on a forum inteneded for such topics, we're making a big deal out of it.


Gotcha.

Don't look now, but your bias is showing.




The teacher just wanted to look at nipples.
DrafterX Offline
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I heard she took pics of them..... Mellow
z6joker9 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Don't look now, but your bias is showing.


What bias do you think I have?

I just know teachers, and sometimes they make dumb decisions, especially when you drill 0 tolerance policies into their heads, and then they see a shirt with a gun on it. This one in particular didn't cause anyone harm (he had to wear his shirt inside out... for the WHOLE day?!) and the school even said they wouldn't have done it, and that it would be reviewed with the teacher.

I just don't think we should be acting like it was some sort of calculated political attack on our freedom, or that teachers now hate the military, or whatever this hogwash is saying.
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Bitch should be fired. Tell her to keep her leftist opinion at home and out of the school.
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The OP initially seemed more like self important commentary than news, with overtones of outrage and a lack of journalistic objectivity.






Oh, right – Fox “News”.

Rage on people . . . .
DrafterX Offline
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Get up, come on get down with the sickness..... Whistle
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Ok, so what was the moral to this story? Did the teacher see the error of her ways & apologize or do I not give a shiite?
Think Think Think
Yep, I don't give a shiite.

I say the little boy should go back wearing a giant vagina that resembles Andytv's mouth vertically. Then sue for forethought of genital malfeasance.
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freak.... Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
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The school has a policy (according to what I heard on the radio) of NO GUN images on clothing.

So military or not, if the shirt had a gun image it was contrary to the schools policy. Sorry.

If you're outraged change the policy.
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Question: Is it possible for the teacher to get it wrong (as in OP's title) and not be an anti-gun leftist (as in the same conclusion)?
ZRX1200 Offline
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Fiddler don't douse a good outrage fire.
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Whoops, my bad. Carry on!
tailgater Offline
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fiddler898 wrote:
Question: Is it possible for the teacher to get it wrong (as in OP's title) and not be an anti-gun leftist (as in the same conclusion)?


Possible.
Not probable.

tailgater Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
The school has a policy (according to what I heard on the radio) of NO GUN images on clothing.

So military or not, if the shirt had a gun image it was contrary to the schools policy. Sorry.

If you're outraged change the policy.



If you read the first post, you'd see that their clothing policy does not even mention guns.

According to Fox News, the school district’s clothing policy doesn’t appear to address guns on shirts that show support for the United States military with any specificity. The closest rule that applies reads: “Student dress (including accessories) may not advertise, promote, or picture alcoholic beverages, illegal drugs, drug paraphernalia, violent behavior, or other inappropriate images.”

Read it.
Now read it again.

My opinion on this matter is based entirely on the article I posted.
But I'll say this: Even if the dress code included the word "guns", she made a bone head decision.

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CapeFear wrote:
Wow...and this is someone who is supposed to be educating our kids? I hope it wasn't in history class...

One more reason why we'll be homeschooling our kids...I'm not the sharpest tack by far, but certainly not as dumb as this idjit.


She was just finishing her lecture on how the German's bombed Pearl Harbor.
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z6joker9 wrote:
What bias do you think I have?

I just know teachers, and sometimes they make dumb decisions, especially when you drill 0 tolerance policies into their heads, and then they see a shirt with a gun on it. This one in particular didn't cause anyone harm (he had to wear his shirt inside out... for the WHOLE day?!) and the school even said they wouldn't have done it, and that it would be reviewed with the teacher.

I just don't think we should be acting like it was some sort of calculated political attack on our freedom, or that teachers now hate the military, or whatever this hogwash is saying.


If a teacher is lacking this level of common sense, do you want them teaching your kids?

This dumb box can thank her lucky stars she works for the union. Anyone that stupid would never survive in the private sector. Unless they got a job in senior management on Wall Street.
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8trackdisco wrote:
She was just finishing her lecture on how the German's bombed Pearl Harbor.


No, you have it wrong. Rich white male industrialists bombed Pearl Harbor, and framed the Japanese, so they could reap immoral profits from the war.
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Like I said, I heard a radio report snippit that stated the school district had a policy that prohibited images of guns on clothing.

If they don't then the teacher is dumb for not simply talking to the principal.
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