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US ready to accept thousands of Syrian refugees
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More than two million Syrians have fled their war-torn country, with many settling in nearby Lebanon and Jordan. Now, the US will open its doors to 2,000 of “the most vulnerable” Syrian refugees – as long as they pass a lengthy background screening.

Two thousand Syrians will be granted the opportunity to live in the US, marking a significant increase from the approximately 90 Syrian refugees the US admitted over the last two years, according to Foreign Policy’s The Cable.

The United Nations estimates that nearly 3.5 million Syrian refugees will be in the neighboring countries of Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq and Egypt by the end of the year, with 1.9 million more in desperate need of assistance. The death toll in Syria continues to rise, with over 4,400 people killed during Ramadan this year.

The Obama administration is responding to the rapidly deteriorating conditions by agreeing to take in 2,000 Syrian war victims who will be given permanent residence status. Even though the number will represent only a fraction of a per cent of Syrian refugees in need of assistance, the administration’s decision marks a major shift in policy.

“Referrals will come within the next four months. We will need to interview people and perform security and medical checks,” Kelly Clements, the State Department’s assistant secretary for Population, Refugees and Migration, told Foreign Policy.

But the chosen victims – many of whom are expected to be women and children – won’t be leaving the country anytime soon. Due to the time it takes to process their applications, “we’re not likely to see Syrian refugees into those numbers before well into 2014,” Clements said.

That means the applicants will be forced to endure another cold winter and several more months in a country plagued by violence and bloodshed.

“It’s 90 degrees now, but in a few months it’s going to snow and people are going to be freezing,” said Noah Gottschalk, Oxfam America’s senior humanitarian policy advisor.

The application process is expected to take months because of the State Department’s extensive background screenings. US officials will carefully select refugees who appear to have no ties to anyone with terrorist sympathies. Even though infants and young children are unlikely to be terrorists themselves, the concern is that they might have relatives in Al-Qaeda who would then have an easier chance of entering the US.The CIA this week announced that the greatest threat to US national security would be the prospect of having Al-Qaeda replace the Bashar Assad regime.

Refugees must also show signs of vulnerability, and Clements said that the most eligible applicants are those “exposed to everything from torture to gender-based violence to serious medical conditions.” They must also have no intentions of ever returning to Syria.

"Refugees are subject to an intensive security screening process involving federal intelligence, law enforcement, defense, and homeland security agencies," a State Department official said. "The US government makes every possible effort to uphold and enhance the security screening aspects of the US Refugee Admissions Program. Refugees are among the most carefully screened of individuals traveling to the United States."

About 6.8 million Syrians are currently in need of humanitarian assistance. Although permanent resettlement will help 2,000 lucky victims, it will hardly make a dent in the overall suffering of the millions who are fighting for survival, and it will hardly compare to the 564,000 registered Syrian refugees in Lebanon and the 454,000 in Jordan.

“We are exceedingly frustrated to be quite honest,” Clements said. “Because we can’t keep up with the humanitarian need especially inside Syria.”
frankj1 Offline
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I love their food.
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frankj1 wrote:
I love their food.


Let their Muslim brothers to take them in. They don't want to? No kidding... This is not our problem. Syrian-Americans better be willing to step up on this one.
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2,000 more on welfare, given free healthcare, education, money, and an iPhone.
2,000 more Democrats That's a sure fire way to win the next election… buy your votes cheap overseas and import them in..
bloody spaniard Offline
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They want to help the "decadent West" by fleeing a culture of corruption, religious intolerance, and poverty & then reproducing it here.Gonz

Give 'em Wisconsin. They can establish the Falafel Belt with Iraqui Michigan.
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We need some of them!





ram27bat
HockeyDad Offline
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Green Bay Allah Akbars
DadZilla3 Offline
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cacman wrote:
2,000 more on welfare, given free healthcare, education, money, and an iPhone.
2,000 more Democrats That's a sure fire way to win the next election… buy your votes cheap overseas and import them in..

We've been outsourcing manufacturing for decades, so now we're outsourcing new Democrat voters...as if we're not generating enough of our own domestically thanks to Welfare, SSI entitlements, HUD, Section 8, EEOC... d'oh!
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DadZilla3 wrote:
We've been outsourcing manufacturing for decades, so now we're outsourcing new Democrat voters...as if we're not generating enough of our own domestically thanks to Welfare, SSI entitlements, HUD, Section 8, EEOC... d'oh!


Yes, yes, yes! The only reason Democrats continue to exist to any great extent is because they individually need to feed and the tit of government benefits is willing to provide them "milk". If we just "starve" them off, there will eventually no longer be any Democrats. Then, the real contributors can eventually take this country back at the polls.
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rfenst wrote:
Yes, yes, yes! The only reason Democrats continue to exist to any great extent is because they individually need to feed and the tit of government benefits is willing to provide them "milk". If we just "starve" them off, there will eventually no longer be any Democrats. Then, the real contributors can eventually take this country back at the polls.

We can only hope.
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cacman wrote:
2,000 more on welfare, given free healthcare, education, money, and an iPhone.
2,000 more Democrats That's a sure fire way to win the next election… buy your votes cheap overseas and import them in..


You sure about all that? Take a look at the Wiki page on Syrian Americans...
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rfenst wrote:
You sure about all that? Take a look at the Wiki page on Syrian Americans...

Don't think those pictured where refugees, but aren't most democrats?
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We got somethin', we both know it, we don't talk too much about it
Ain't no real big secret, all the same, somehow we get around it
Listen, it don't really matter to me baby
You believe what you want to believe, you see

You don't have to live like a refugee..... Whistle Whistle
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I remember back in the early 80's our highschool got flooded with Vietnamese refugees.... most dropped out and formed gangs tho... we didn't have to deal with them very long... Mellow
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My new neurologist is Syrian American and he is very conservative (in an American way). He is currently becoming a US Citizen. His parents are still in Syria and he is pretty concerned that they may not make it out of Syria. I don't have a problem with any refugee that is properly screened before being allowed to immigrate to the US.
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I welcome all immigrants as long as they want to follow and commit to our principals and beliefs as set forth in the Constitution andthe CigarBid Forum...
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Better start making more gorilla cookies
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Buckwheat wrote:
My new neurologist is Syrian American and he is very conservative (in an American way).



You mean he wants to borrow money from the Chinese so we can fight wars with arab countries!?
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HockeyDad wrote:
You mean he wants to borrow money from the Chinese so we can fight wars with arab countries!?


And what percentage of the U.S. debt is owed to China...?
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cacman wrote:
Don't think those pictured where refugees, but aren't most democrats?


Don't just look at the pictures, read. I am sure the picture is rosey, but it is likely overwhelmingly true.
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teedubbya wrote:
Better start making more gorilla cookies

You saying Syrian women ugly like Aunt Esther?
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no... he said he was gonna make some gorilla cookies.... Mellow
bloody spaniard Offline
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^What do you think that means?d'oh!

Hey, Drafter, you gonna get the Syrians jobs with casinos? You must know peeples.
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are they willing to kick back half of thier paychecks..?? Huh
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rfenst wrote:
And what percentage of the U.S. debt is owed to China...?


25% of the US foreign debt is to China.
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DrafterX wrote:
are they willing to kick back half of thier paychecks..?? Huh


HEY! This is America land of the free NOT an Indian reservation!!ram27bat

Speaking of which, serious questions- is booze cheaper (tax free) on reservations and is there a peyote epidemic?
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bloody spaniard wrote:

Speaking of which, serious questions- is booze cheaper (tax free) on reservations and is there a peyote epidemic?



I dunno.... I don't think so...... the only reservations I know of are out west in pretty secluded areas so booze would prolly be more expensive... peyote you just have to go look for... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
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are you syrious?
bloody spaniard Offline
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I always heard that they were autonomous Indian nations on usually arid/lousy land with self jurisdiction that could do as they please but could still get Government bennies. Folks are depressed but stay put. Wonder why.


That's right, HD said that China owned 25% of FOREIGN debt. No more no less.
(No, this post was NOT edited after the fact)
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HockeyDad wrote:
25% of the US foreign debt is to China.


Where did you get that figure. Evrything I have seen is around 8%.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I always heard that they were autonomous Indian nations on usually arid/lousy land with self jurisdiction that could do as they please but could still get Government bennies. Folks are depressed but stay put. Wonder why.



ya, some were kicked off the good land, there was gold in da Black Hills so there went that treatyd'oh!
others were bought out....

they do have the right or ability to be sovereign nations and jurisdict themselves but nobody is geting away with murder... most laws and punishments won't vary much from the state or counties.. not all tribes chose to do this tho.. and not all tribes have reservations... who knows why anyone stays were they are if they aren't happy.. it's sad to here the suicide rates and see the poverty but that stuff is everywhere.... not just on a few reservations... Mellow
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rfenst wrote:
Where did you get that figure. Evrything I have seen is around 8%.



Prolly wikipedia, snopes, or an email from CROS. I can't recall.


There are a lot of tricky stats around the national debt. Public held debt.....foreign held debt.....trust fund held debt.
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HockeyDad wrote:
25% of the US foreign debt is to China.



um. no

China and U.S. Debt

The largest portion of U.S. debt, 68 cents for every dollar or about $10 trillion, is owned by individual investors, corporations, state and local governments and, yes, even foreign governments such as China that hold Treasury bills, notes and bonds.

Foreign governments hold about 46 percent of all U.S. debt held by the public, more than $4.5 trillion. The largest foreign holder of U.S. debt is China, which owns more about $1.2 trillion in bills, notes and bonds, according to the Treasury.

In total, China owns about 8 percent of publicly held U.S. debt. Of all the holders of U.S. debt China is the third-largest, behind only the Social Security Trust Fund's holdings of nearly $3 trillion and the Federal Reserve's nearly $2 trillion holdings in Treasury investments, purchased as part of its quantitative easing program to boost the economy.


wheel,
HockeyDad Offline
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Wheel,

Read post 32.

25% of FOREIGN debt.
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rfenst wrote:
Where did you get that figure. Evrything I have seen is around 8%.

8% of a massive sh*tload of debt is still a lot of money.
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I'm sorry, HD, but your finance credibility as the cbid guru has been dinged beyond repair.
Sooo sorry. Please pick up your turtle wax coupon & dinner for two at La Bilbaina restaurant on the way out. Thank you for playing.


Getting back on topic, perhaps we could glean another Steve Jobs from this bunch of scared ragheads. Wasn't he half Syrian?
I know... who knows and who cares.

Carry on with China's share of America's debt... Besides, don't the Dutch own a good chunk of America? I know (again) apples and oranges.
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HockeyDad wrote:
Wheel,
Read post 32.
25% of FOREIGN debt.



and post 30!ram27bat
Don't worry, buddy, I got your hairy back!
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bloody spaniard wrote:
and post 30!ram27bat
Don't worry, buddy, I got your hairy back!



25% of FOREIGN held debt is correct it is not my fault ya'll can't read.

To get the 8% of debt, you have to add in the social security and other trust fund debt that is not publically held and can be eliminated with a troke of a pen.

8% of total debt is also correct. Total debt is the stat you report if you want to minimize China's debt influence.
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HockeyDad wrote:
25% of FOREIGN held debt is correct it is not my fault ya'll can't read.

To get the 8% of debt, you have to add in the social security and other trust fund debt that is not publically held and can be eliminated with a troke of a pen.

8% of total debt is also correct. Total debt is the stat you report if you want to minimize China's debt influence.


yada yada yada,,,

btw,
what is a " Troke " ?


d'oh!
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wheelrite wrote:
yada yada yada,,,

btw,
what is a " Troke " ?


d'oh!

I think it has something to do with marijuana smoking, like 'one troke over the line'.
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