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Poll Question : What opinion is closest to yours on Egypt?
Choice Votes Statistics
The Muslim Brotherhood is bad, period get them out 11 68 %
Muslim Bros elected by the peeps, leave em be 2 12 %
Military should rule for the foreseeable future 1 6 %
Democracy is good, unless you don't like da result 2 12 %
Total 16 100%

Egypt
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8trackdisco Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2013, 9:19 PM EST
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Being our government is fine with Egypts military taking over a democracy, I wonder if they'll feel the same way when it happens to the prez in power.

The precedent appears to be sent. I the Dems win the White House again in 16, the military should take over. Is that correct?
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2013, 9:35 PM EST
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They're backing the brotherhood.....
dpnewell Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2013, 9:41 PM EST
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I have a novel idea. How about we get the he11 out of other folk's business? We can't even fix our own problems, yet we think we can fix the world. No wonder so many folk hate us.
Gene363 Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2013, 9:52 PM EST
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I be inclined to chose an answer like:

Mind our own business and let them sort out their country.
Gene363 Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2013, 9:53 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
I have a novel idea. How about we get the he11 out of other folk's business? We can't even fix our own problems, yet we think we can fix the world. No wonder so many folk hate us.


+1
Gene363 Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2013, 9:58 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Being our government is fine with Egypts military taking over a democracy, I wonder if they'll feel the same way when it happens to the prez in power.

The precedent appears to be sent. I the Dems win the White House again in 16, the military should take over. Is that correct?



But you have Obama, Kerry, McCain and Graham all bitching at the Egyptian army about getting rid of the MB. The Egyptian Army know how to change the MB's mind, by rearranging their brains, a mechanical problem really.
Bitter Klinger Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Aug 14 2013, 10:03 PM EST
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+ another 1.

But I could care less who likes us. I worry a lot more that space aliens posing as elected officials are trouncing on our -OUR- Constitution while we sit back and do nothing about it.

and the NSA can KMA.
HockeyDad Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 2:54 AM EST
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It is not like it is the first time the USA has backed a military dictatorship over democracy.
8trackdisco Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 5:17 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
It is not like it is the first time the USA has backed a military dictatorship over democracy.


We'll have to reap that crop on home soil some day.
8trackdisco Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 5:19 AM EST
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So what conditions should be in place to warrant our government to be thrown out by our military?
DadZilla3 Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 5:49 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
So what conditions should be in place to warrant our government to be thrown out by our military?

Look around.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 7:18 AM EST
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Can we cut the money off now that we all now the nation was toppled by military coup?
HockeyDad Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 8:56 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
We'll have to reap that crop on home soil some day.



In the eyes of most of the world the USA is massively hypocritical, loves meddling in other nations' affairs, and only talks up democracy when convenient. The story told to the homeland is the USA always rides in wearing the white hat but the world knows differently.
HockeyDad Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 9:00 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Can we cut the money off now that we all now the nation was toppled by military coup?



The Obama administration refuses to call it a military coup. They're trying to pick the freely elected Muslim Brotherhood government and the military coup at the same time!




The Egyptian Air Force or EAF is the aviation branch of the Egyptian Armed Forces. Currently, the backbone of the EAF is the F-16. The EAF (planes and pilot training) is considered to be the strongest in Africa and one of the strongest in the Middle East. The Mirage 2000 is the other modern interceptor used by the EAF. The Egyptian Air Force has 216 F-16s (plus 20 on order) making it the 4th largest operator of the F-16 in the World. It has about 579 combat aircraft and 149 armed helicopters having 35 Apache's AH-64D as it also continues to fly extensively upgraded MiG-21s, F-7 Skybolts, F-4 Phantoms, Dassault Mirage Vs, and the C-130 Hercules among other planes.

The inventory of the Egyptian armed forces includes equipment from the United States, France, Brazil, the United Kingdom, the Soviet Union, and the People's Republic of China. Equipment from the Soviet Union is being progressively replaced by more modern U.S., French, and British equipment, a significant portion of which is built under license in Egypt, such as the M1A2 Abrams tank which makes Egypt the owner of the second largest number of latest generation main battle tanks in the region after Israel, and the second after Syria in case of the older generations.
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 9:22 AM EST
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I guess we're ok with whoever is in charge as long as they keep buying planes & tanks from us..... Think
HockeyDad Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 9:32 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I guess we're ok with whoever is in charge as long as they keep buying planes & tanks from us..... Think



It actually is bought by US taxpayers and then given to Egypt.
DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 9:36 AM EST
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ya but whatta ya gonna do.... d'oh!



it's keeping some people employed anyway.... Mellow
bloody spaniard Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 10:04 AM EST
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Bring the Brotherhood here & make Morsi their non-voting delegate to Congress like Eleanor Holmes Norton.

Better yet, bring the Egyptian military over here. Our Government may not like them but they may need them in the future to prop them up.ram27bat
HockeyDad Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 10:58 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
ya but whatta ya gonna do.... d'oh!



it's keeping some people employed anyway.... Mellow



Who is John Galt?
frankj1 Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 12:16 PM EST
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post #2
ZRX wrote
They're backing the brotherhood.....



and post #8
HD wrote
It is not like it is the first time the USA has backed a military dictatorship over democracy.


...you've got me confused.
HockeyDad Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 12:21 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
post #2
ZRX wrote
They're backing the brotherhood.....



and post #8
HD wrote
It is not like it is the first time the USA has backed a military dictatorship over democracy.


...you've got me confused.



Read #14
teedubbya Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 12:26 PM EST
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Hemp
bloody spaniard Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 12:31 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Read #14

Are you still explaining how you were misunderstood about China owning 25% of the US debt?
Let it go, Shaniqua.
teedubbya Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 12:37 PM EST
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I think the most salient answer is WGAF?
HockeyDad Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 1:04 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Are you still explaining how you were misunderstood about China owning 25% of the US debt?
Let it go, Shaniqua.


There is no debt to China
teedubbya Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 1:13 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
There is no debt to China


Who even uses china anymore. We use a lot of paper plates because I like to fill the landfills.
bloody spaniard Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 1:27 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
There is no debt to China

Confused
rfenst wrote:
And what percentage of the U.S. debt is owed to China...?

HockeyDad wrote:
25% of the US foreign debt is to China.

d'oh!
HockeyDad Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 1:32 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Confused


d'oh!



25% of the US foreign debt is owed to China. Almost the same is owed to Japan. Or there is no foreign debt. I figure I'll just let people pick their favorite answer.

I attribute it to the continued matrostication and phenolaterization of the USA.
teedubbya Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 1:35 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:

I attribute it to the continued matrostication and phenolaterization of the USA.



Ooooh look at the big brain on Brad
bloody spaniard Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 1:57 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
25% of the US foreign debt is owed to China. Almost the same is owed to Japan. Or there is no foreign debt. I figure I'll just let people pick their favorite answer.

I attribute it to the continued matrostication and phenolaterization of the USA.



Did you take electrocution lessons from a follower of minister Farrakhan while in prison?
HockeyDad Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 2:10 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Did you take electrocution lessons from a follower of minister Farrakhan while in prison?



No or I would call you a white devil.
8trackdisco Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 4:41 PM EST
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These results are funny;

I'd hear you neo-cons howl if a Republican was elected, and then disposed of in a coup.

Hypocrites.
8trackdisco Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 4:43 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Can we cut the money off now that we all now the nation was toppled by military coup?


What has the Obama administration said about that?
bloody spaniard Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 4:57 PM EST
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^ Kerry has expressed outrage & pontificated but US will continue to send cash.

I think the Egyptian military earned it this time though. Morsi and his murderous animals needed culling.
8trackdisco Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 5:00 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
In the eyes of most of the world the USA is massively hypocritical, loves meddling in other nations' affairs, and only talks up democracy when convenient. The story told to the homeland is the USA always rides in wearing the white hat but the world knows differently.


I hope in your euro travels you relay the fact that American people don't like or trust the American government either.
8trackdisco Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 5:02 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Who is John Galt?


Applause
8trackdisco Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 5:05 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I think the most salient answer is WGAF?


I give 3/4 of one.
HockeyDad Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 6:51 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
I hope in your euro travels you relay the fact that American people don't like or trust the American government either.



Every chance I get.
bloody spaniard Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 7:05 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
I hope in your euro travels you relay the fact that American people don't like or trust the American government either.


No, of course they don't, but they keep voting 'em back in.Drool

Our Constitution has become just another coffee table book. You show it off for company but ignore it the rest of the time.
Soon it'll be used to raise the table leg to be replaced by Jay-Z's Niggahs in Paris..
engletl Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 7:17 PM EST
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plain and simple...leave em be and quit giving them our borrowed Chinese money
bloody spaniard Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 7:30 PM EST
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engletl wrote:
plain and simple...leave em be and quit giving them our borrowed Chinese money

Don't worry, Obama is going to push the Egyptian military back into the hands of the Russians as it was during Nasser.
frankj1 Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 8:27 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Read #14

well, that was kinda my point. One day I'll learn how to use them smiley faces.
8trackdisco Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 9:19 PM EST
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engletl wrote:
plain and simple...leave em be and quit giving them our borrowed Chinese money


Wow.

You hit that one out of the park.
dpnewell Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, Aug 15 2013, 10:25 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Wow.

You hit that one out of the park.


Sometimes the French will surprise ya.
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