America's #1 Online Cigar Auction
first, best, biggest!

Last post 10 years ago by frankj1. 38 replies replies.
Justice Ginsburg to officiate at same-sex wedding
Jump to Bottom | Previous Topic | Next Topic
rfenst Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2013, 4:43 PM EST
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,366
P | BRETT ZONGKER

Published August 30, 2013 05:32PM EDT


WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is performing a same-sex wedding this weekend in what is believed to be a first for a member of the nation's highest court.

Ginsburg is officiating at the marriage of Kennedy Center President Michael Kaiser and John Roberts, a government economist, on Saturday. Kaiser says he asked Ginsburg to officiate because she is a longtime friend.

The private ceremony is taking place at the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, a memorial to President John F. Kennedy. The 80-year-old Ginsburg, an opera lover, is a frequent guest at the center.

Justices generally avoid taking stands on political issues. The wedding, though, comes after the court's landmark ruling in June to expand federal recognition of same-sex marriages, striking down part of an anti-gay marriage law.
wheelrite Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2013, 4:53 PM EST
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
yawn,,,,
DadZilla3 Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2013, 5:16 PM EST
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
rfenst wrote:
Ginsburg is officiating at the marriage of Kennedy Center President Michael Kaiser and John Roberts, a government economist, on Saturday. Kaiser says he asked Ginsburg to officiate because she is a longtime friend.

The private ceremony is taking place at the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, a memorial to President John F. Kennedy.

You have to appreciate the irony of two guys getting married to each other at a memorial dedicated to the memory of a president who was a profligate womanizer.
Gene363 Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2013, 6:13 PM EST
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,842
rfenst wrote:
P | BRETT ZONGKER

Published August 30, 2013 05:32PM EDT


WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is performing a same-sex wedding this weekend in what is believed to be a first for a member of the nation's highest court.

Ginsburg is officiating at the marriage of Kennedy Center President Michael Kaiser and John Roberts, a government economist, on Saturday. Kaiser says he asked Ginsburg to officiate because she is a longtime friend.

The private ceremony is taking place at the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, a memorial to President John F. Kennedy. The 80-year-old Ginsburg, an opera lover, is a frequent guest at the center.

Justices generally avoid taking stands on political issues. The wedding, though, comes after the court's landmark ruling in June to expand federal recognition of same-sex marriages, striking down part of an anti-gay marriage law.



What??? You expected a Rabbi, Priest of Minister? Sarcasm

They are friends, but it does look like taking sides. OTOH, nobody would care if it was a heterosexual couple.
wheelrite Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2013, 6:25 PM EST
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
DadZilla3 wrote:
You have to appreciate the irony of two guys getting married to each other at a memorial dedicated to the memory of a president who was a profligate womanizer.


Jackie had a giant bush...
ZRX1200 Offline
#6 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2013, 6:28 PM EST
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,628
abomination!
wheelrite Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2013, 6:33 PM EST
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
ZRX1200 wrote:
abomination!


Jackie's giant bush ?
jackconrad Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2013, 7:29 PM EST
Joined: 06-09-2003
Posts: 67,461
I sure as heck hope they are paying a fee for being married there;;;
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2013, 8:39 PM EST
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,628
I put sticky back velcro on my pelvis if the broad has a gigantic bush. Keep me in. Only problem is u can't pull out.
frankj1 Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2013, 11:33 PM EST
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,228
ZRX1200 wrote:
I put sticky back velcro on my pelvis if the broad has a gigantic bush. Keep me in. Only problem is u can't pull out.

absolutely brilliant.
Mathen Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Aug 30 2013, 11:44 PM EST
Joined: 05-27-2011
Posts: 2,338
Good for her.

fiddler898 Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Aug 31 2013, 6:06 AM EST
Joined: 06-15-2009
Posts: 3,782
^^ Ditto.
TMCTLT Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Aug 31 2013, 6:45 AM EST
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
rfenst wrote:
P | BRETT ZONGKER

Published August 30, 2013 05:32PM EDT


WASHINGTON (AP) — Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is performing a same-sex wedding this weekend in what is believed to be a first for a member of the nation's highest court.

Ginsburg is officiating at the marriage of Kennedy Center President Michael Kaiser and John Roberts, a government economist, on Saturday. Kaiser says he asked Ginsburg to officiate because she is a longtime friend.

The private ceremony is taking place at the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, a memorial to President John F. Kennedy. The 80-year-old Ginsburg, an opera lover, is a frequent guest at the center.

Justices generally avoid taking stands on political issues. The wedding, though, comes after the court's landmark ruling in June to expand federal recognition of same-sex marriages, striking down part of an anti-gay marriage law.




Yeah....normally, Except with THIS particular issue. Those who said early on that they aren't looking for EQUALITY....they're after " Special Rights " were all over this. Protection in the work place.......special time off in the military ( without said leave time counting against " leave time". 10 days in which to travel to a state that marries gheys ) Someone tell me of a case where a heterosexual couple wanted to marry while engaged in active duty and were granted 10 days in which to leave and get married.......THESE ARE SPECIAL RIGHTS!!!!

http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2013/08/special-leave-for-gay-marriage-travel/
rfenst Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Aug 31 2013, 11:30 AM EST
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,366
TMCTLT wrote:
[/h]


Yeah....normally, Except with THIS particular issue. Those who said early on that they aren't looking for EQUALITY....they're after " Special Rights " were all over this. Protection in the work place.......special time off in the military ( without said leave time counting against " leave time". 10 days in which to travel to a state that marries gheys ) Someone tell me of a case where a heterosexual couple wanted to marry while engaged in active duty and were granted 10 days in which to leave and get married.......THESE ARE SPECIAL RIGHTS!!!!

http://militaryadvantage.military.com/2013/08/special-leave-for-gay-marriage-travel/


WTF does the military rant have to do with the fact that the couple is to be married by Ginsburg?

I don't think this constitutes the type of taking of a public stance on an issue- because the issue has already been decided. Otherwise, a Justice couldn't have much of a personal life for concern that anything they do in public may be seen as taking a public stance.

You do generally wish the couple well, don't you?
TMCTLT Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Aug 31 2013, 12:11 PM EST
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
rfenst wrote:
WTF does the military rant have to do with the fact that the couple is to be married by Ginsburg?

I don't think this constitutes the type of taking of a public stance on an issue- because the issue has already been decided. Otherwise, a Justice couldn't have much of a personal life for concern that anything they do in public may be seen as taking a public stance.

You do generally wish the couple well, don't you?



I don't Wish them anything frankly.....
rfenst Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Aug 31 2013, 6:49 PM EST
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,366
TMCTLT wrote:
I don't Wish them anything frankly.....


I didn't think you could.
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Aug 31 2013, 7:00 PM EST
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,628
I wish them happy decorating, and many happy sexual adventures.
TMCTLT Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Aug 31 2013, 7:36 PM EST
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
rfenst wrote:
I didn't think you could.




I could....I just don't fog
wheelrite Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Aug 31 2013, 8:12 PM EST
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
Who really cares ?
I don't..
How does it affect me if two people who are all into each other get married ? It doesn't...

move on...

wheel,
itsawaldo Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Aug 31 2013, 8:22 PM EST
Joined: 09-10-2006
Posts: 4,221
wheelrite wrote:
Jackie had a giant bush...


Hah, my Uncle said the same thing once in deer camp...wonder who he was talking about.
rfenst Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Sep 1 2013, 4:09 AM EST
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,366
wheelrite wrote:
Who really cares ?
I don't..
How does it affect me if two people who are all into each other get married ? It doesn't...

move on...

wheel,


Exactly IMO!

However, this marks the finality of the start/real beginning of a major cultural and legal shift/recognition of general gay couples' rights and place in our society. Sort of... the history of law and society. Kind of like seeing the Civil Rights Movement's turning point while in the actual midst of it (although of course I think the Civil Rights Movement was far larger and of greater importance in our time and to date) as opposed to looking back after the fact. I am just a "current major history" buff of "SCOTUS and society" rather than a purely legal scholar of SCOTUS or a historian.
HockeyDad Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Sep 1 2013, 5:42 AM EST
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,164
I don't think blacks care for any comparison between the civil rights movement and the ghey movement.


They gheys won. Now let's see if they gay-homo militant extremists fade away to relish in the victory.....or go after churches and their tax-exempt status because they discriminate.
Gene363 Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Sep 1 2013, 9:54 AM EST
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,842
HockeyDad wrote:
I don't think blacks care for any comparison between the civil rights movement and the ghey movement.


They gheys won. Now let's see if they gay-homo militant extremists fade away to relish in the victory.....or go after churches and their tax-exempt status because they discriminate.


They already are. I read about a bill in Kalifornia to remove the tax exempt status for any discriminatory group like the Boy Scouts, Little League Baseball and the Future Farmers of America. Some sort of 'special' hormone thing?
rfenst Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Sep 1 2013, 2:13 PM EST
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,366
HockeyDad wrote:
I don't think blacks care for any comparison between the civil rights movement and the ghey movement.


They gheys won. Now let's see if they gay-homo militant extremists fade away to relish in the victory.....or go after churches and their tax-exempt status because they discriminate.


I don't care what blacks would feel about my use and/or comparison for explanatory purpose.
rfenst Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Sep 1 2013, 2:14 PM EST
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,366
Gene363 wrote:

They already are. I read about a bill in Kalifornia to remove the tax exempt status for any discriminatory group like the Boy Scouts, Little League Baseball and the Future Farmers of America. Some sort of 'special' hormone thing?


But, they are not hyper-protected by the First.
jpotts Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Sep 1 2013, 10:26 PM EST
Joined: 06-14-2006
Posts: 28,811
rfenst wrote:
I don't care what blacks would feel about my use and/or comparison for explanatory purpose.



You might if you like to walk around in public...without armed guards...and stuff...
jpotts Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Sep 1 2013, 10:27 PM EST
Joined: 06-14-2006
Posts: 28,811
rfenst wrote:
But, they are not hyper-protected by the First.



So, we don't have freedom of association there Robert?
rfenst Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Sep 1 2013, 10:55 PM EST
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,366
jpotts wrote:
So, we don't have freedom of association there Robert?


Churches- freedom of religion and association.

Non-religious organizations- freedom of association, the protect from which doesn't even come close to the religion protection
jackconrad Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Sep 1 2013, 11:58 PM EST
Joined: 06-09-2003
Posts: 67,461
Right is Right



AND




Left is left !
DadZilla3 Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Sep 2 2013, 5:09 AM EST
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
rfenst wrote:
I don't care what blacks would feel about my use and/or comparison for explanatory purpose.

There's probably any number of 'community organizers' who'd consider that attitude to be raciss. Shame on you
bloody spaniard Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Sep 2 2013, 11:23 AM EST
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
That's so funny, first person I thought of when you said Ginsburg was not the diminutive imp on the Supreme Court, it was Douglas H. Ginsburg. Remember the second Reagan nominee to be "borked" after the brilliant and honorable Bork? The reason he was unfit? The accusation by Nina Totenberg(sp?) that he MAY have smoked grass during his college days...

We've come along ways, baby...ThumbDown

Btw, Douglas Ginsburg (no relation to Ruthie) was later thought fit enough to serve as DC Circuit's chief judge for most of the 2000's.
ZRX1200 Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Sep 2 2013, 11:32 AM EST
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,628
The same Nina who's on NPR??
bloody spaniard Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Sep 2 2013, 2:38 PM EST
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
Yes, Jaime. There's only ONE Nina Totenberg- thank God. Pray
The same one who savaged Clarence Thomas as well.
frankj1 Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Sep 2 2013, 3:16 PM EST
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,228
bloody spaniard wrote:
That's so funny, first person I thought of when you said Ginsburg was not the diminutive imp on the Supreme Court, it was Douglas H. Ginsburg. Remember the second Reagan nominee to be "borked" after the brilliant and honorable Bork? The reason he was unfit? The accusation by Nina Totenberg(sp?) that he MAY have smoked grass during his college days...

We've come along ways, baby...ThumbDown

Btw, Douglas Ginsburg (no relation to Ruthie) was later thought fit enough to serve as DC Circuit's chief judge for most of the 2000's.

I thought of the beat poet...must have been a LSD flashback
bloody spaniard Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Sep 2 2013, 4:51 PM EST
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
frankj1 wrote:
I thought of the beat poet...must have been a LSD flashback

Well played, master Frank. i especially enjoyed his poetry on masturbation when I was a lad.Gonz
frankj1 Offline
#36 Posted: Mon, Sep 2 2013, 5:11 PM EST
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,228
bloody spaniard wrote:
Well played, master Frank. i especially enjoyed his poetry on masturbation when I was a lad.Gonz

I won't judge you, H.R...but I must ask, were you thinking of Vivien Vance?
bloody spaniard Offline
#37 Posted: Tue, Sep 3 2013, 9:39 AM EST
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
frankj1 wrote:
I won't judge you, H.R...but I must ask, were you thinking of Vivien Vance?

It's rumored Vivien invented the bubble dance. How else would she have snagged a prize like Fred Mertz? I think he started wearing his pants around his nipples during filming of Gentleman Jim with Errol Flynn.

But we digress. God bless Ginsburg for taking such a bold step. Perhaps she'll marry Kagan or Souter next. Both are gay and fancy free.
Ahhhh the exuberance of youth.
frankj1 Offline
#38 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2013, 6:17 PM EST
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,228
bloody spaniard wrote:
It's rumored Vivien invented the bubble dance. How else would she have snagged a prize like Fred Mertz? I think he started wearing his pants around his nipples during filming of Gentleman Jim with Errol Flynn.

But we digress. God bless Ginsburg for taking such a bold step. Perhaps she'll marry Kagan or Souter next. Both are gay and fancy free.
Ahhhh the exuberance of youth.

I wish you had a collection of short stories.
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Back to Top