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Cracking the Code
8trackdisco Offline
#1 Posted:
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So the American & British governments have cracked the encryption codes. They now have access to each of you emails, every financial transaction on a debit, credit or online payment, along with your medical records.

Bought those Cuban cigars online?
Saw that psychiatrist a couple times, but you were assured it was 100% confidential?
Have an expensive medical condition with your insurance is currently paying out? Good luck getting another job.

But really, in the end, it is just the government keeping us safe, right?

This Edward Snowden was a real basstard, huh? Still feel that way?
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted:
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Those Bassards..!! Mad
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted:
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As long as they protect me from those mooselems!
HockeyDad Offline
#4 Posted:
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Authoritarianism is taking root very well.
DrafterX Offline
#5 Posted:
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Respect My Authoritah..!!! Mad
DadZilla3 Offline
#6 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
But really, in the end, it is just the government keeping us safe, right?

Absolutely. Just make sure you always have the correct identification papers with you at all times.
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted:
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Absolutely. Just make sure you always have your identification papers with you at all times.



wouldn't a mark or a chip or somethin be easier..?? Huh
DadZilla3 Offline
#8 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
wouldn't a mark or a chip or somethin be easier..?? Huh

They could make us all carry voter ID's, but that would be rayciss. Shame on you
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted:
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DadZilla3 wrote:
They could make us all carry voter ID's, but that would be rayciss. Shame on you


only here.... they've been required in Mexico for 20 years now.. go figure.. Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#10 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
only here.... they've been required in Mexico for 20 years now.. go figure.. Mellow



Geez...how many black people are in Mexico!?
Buckwheat Offline
#11 Posted:
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Not talking Not too concerned about it. Like they didn't already have all of this a while ago. Once the main stream media reports on something it is already old news. fog

When they kick out your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun

When the law break in
How you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement
Or waiting in death row

Mathen Offline
#12 Posted:
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Buckwheat is a Clash fan. Who knew?


That will go in your file.
bloody spaniard Offline
#13 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
So the American & British governments have cracked the encryption codes. The now have access to each of you emails, every financial transaction on a debit, credit or online payment, along with your medical records.
Bought those Cuban cigars online?
Saw that psychiatrist a couple times, but you were assured it was 100% confidential?
Have an expensive medical condition with your insurance is currently paying out? Good luck getting another job.
But really, in the end, it is just the government keeping us safe, right?
This Edward Snowden was a real basstard, huh? Still feel that way?


My wife seems to favor Snowden snitchin' on the NSA but I'm numb. I don't know how I feel anymore.Think
Only a bombing of Iran's scattered nuclear facilities will cheer me up.
Lou Sanis Offline
#14 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
My wife seems to favor Snowden snitchin' on the NSA but I'm numb. I don't know how I feel anymore.Think
Only a bombing of Iran's scattered nuclear facilities will cheer me up.


Maybe if she puts some of that KY warming oil on it it will begin to have feeling again.
bloody spaniard Offline
#15 Posted:
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Lou Sanis wrote:
Maybe if she puts some of that KY warming oil on it it will begin to have feeling again.

LOL! Damn bedpost. You got spunk, ya Lous Anis somonabich!
Think
I'll ask the wife.
ZRX1200 Offline
#16 Posted:
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I dated a girl who liked tanning a long time back. They make a topical tan enhancing oil that burns like rubbing your eyes with habanero juice.

We went to my apartment for a little afternoon delight after one of her tanning sessions.

That stuff got ALL OVER my junk. It was kind of neat for about 10 seconds.
bloody spaniard Offline
#17 Posted:
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^Sounds painful but remind me to tell you about my childhood red ant incident some day when I can talk about it... I'm only now beginning to regain sensitivity.

Apologies to the OP for the threadjack but Lous Anis started it.Whistle
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted:
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insensitive bassard.. Mad
wheelrite Offline
#19 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I had butt sex with a black man once.It was kind of neat for about 10 seconds.




what ?
d'oh!


wheel,
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted:
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He sure could run.
ZRX1200 Offline
#21 Posted:
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Hey Wheel.....



Know how to tell your buddy is ghey?
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Hey Wheel.....



Know how to tell your buddy is ghey?

OK, happy to report that don't know, but I have waited 4 hours and all of my finger nails are gone...
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted:
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He gets a hardon while you're ****ing him.
frankj1 Offline
#24 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
He gets a hardon while you're ****ing him.

sweet relief! luckily no one has ever been aroused while **** me.
DadZilla3 Offline
#25 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
So the American & British governments have cracked the encryption codes. They now have access to each of you emails, every financial transaction on a debit, credit or online payment, along with your medical records.

And yet we can't figure out for certain who is gassing who in Syria.
Gene363 Offline
#26 Posted:
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DadZilla3 wrote:
And yet we can't figure out for certain who is gassing who in Syria.


Much less the who and why of the Benghazi attack.
TheSmokensip Offline
#27 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:

Much less the who and why of the Benghazi attack.

+1

Big Brother is watching
dstieger Offline
#28 Posted:
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Frankly, I'd be a lot more concerned if the news were that the NSA could NOT crack standard consumer-level encryption.

I can't keep up with the stuff in my own 5 or 6 email inboxes. If NSA wants to try to sift through 144 billion emails a day and make sense of it, let them have at it. I don't think anyone's going to notice a box of RASS was shipped to Virginia.
Gene363 Offline
#29 Posted:
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The Dilbert strip for the last few days is perfect.

http://dilbert.com/

http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/100000/90000/5000/500/195582/195582.strip.gif
Lou Sanis Offline
#30 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
If NSA wants to try to sift through 144 billion emails a day and make sense of it, let them have at it. I don't think anyone's going to notice a box of RASS was shipped to Virginia.


Unless they want to use it as leverage for something else. It is like the person at work who bends the rules no more than anyone else. It is not a problem unless someone wants them punished or gone and is looking for a reason. The fact that everyone else is doing it rarely saves the person who gave someone else the ammo.

They could use that info to blackmail you in to being a mole. Come to think about it you can no longer be trusted. Please do not speak to me.
DrafterX Offline
#31 Posted:
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dstieger's a mole..?? Huh
Lou Sanis Offline
#32 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
dstieger's a mole..?? Huh


Maybe. Since you do not appear to be overly bright, let me clarify. He is not literally the rodent-like creature you may be picturing. He could possibly be the human equivalent. It is best not to take chances dealing with him.
lannyflaherty Offline
#33 Posted:
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Without going into way too much detail on cryptography, no, they haven't cracked encryption, not even slightly. SHA-256 may be brute-forceable, and they may be able to create rainbow tables for single-hashed encryptions, but you can just encrypt with SHA-256, salt and rehash with SHA-256 again and it would take a billion computers well over a billion years to approach a 50% likelihood of successfully brute-forcing double-hashed and salted SHA-256.

Probably got way too into cryptography there, but basically, if I want to encrypt something, I go from A>B. I can add whatever gibberish I want to 'B', and then encrypt it again to get C. If someone manages to crack 'C', they are just left with encrypted 'B' and whatever hexidecimal characters were used to 'salt', or randomize the encryption and would have to start from scratch again. You can salt and rehash unlimited times. You'd need quantum computers to carry out a bruteforce crack in a reasonable timeframe.

There are also loads of other encryption algorithms, such as serpent, twofish, AES-256, etc. that are also veritably uncrackable, particularly when used in combination with other algos.







Of course, that all assumes the NSA hasn't greased every palm in the cryptography game and gotten themselves a nice little backdoor entrance built, but the odds of that backdoor going unnoticed for as long as SHA-256 has been a global standard are astronomical. It would have been exploited long ago, and some gang in russia would be rolling in piles of billions of dollars.
DrafterX Offline
#34 Posted:
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I heard that dstieger dude is loaded... Mellow
Buckwheat Offline
#35 Posted:
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Lou Sanis wrote:
...blackmail you in to being a mole.



Yeah, thats what happened.


"We have a problem here...Bubba Zanetti has it on good authority. She's sent by the bronze. Full of treachery. The bronze... take our pride."ram27bat

"Don't do this to me, please! Aw, Sweet Jesus! I was sick! Don't bring this on me, please!"Herfing
Lou Sanis Offline
#36 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard that dstieger dude is loaded... Mellow


It's 5 o'clock somewhere I suppose.
dstieger Offline
#37 Posted:
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lannyflaherty wrote:
Without going into way too much detail on cryptography, no, they haven't cracked encryption, not even slightly. SHA-256 may be brute-forceable, and they may be able to create rainbow tables for single-hashed encryptions, but you can just encrypt with SHA-256, salt and rehash with SHA-256 again and it would take a billion computers well over a billion years to approach a 50% likelihood of successfully brute-forcing double-hashed and salted SHA-256.

Probably got way too into cryptography there, but basically, if I want to encrypt something, I go from A>B. I can add whatever gibberish I want to 'B', and then encrypt it again to get C. If someone manages to crack 'C', they are just left with encrypted 'B' and whatever hexidecimal characters were used to 'salt', or randomize the encryption and would have to start from scratch again. You can salt and rehash unlimited times. You'd need quantum computers to carry out a bruteforce crack in a reasonable timeframe.

There are also loads of other encryption algorithms, such as serpent, twofish, AES-256, etc. that are also veritably uncrackable, particularly when used in combination with other algos.







Of course, that all assumes the NSA hasn't greased every palm in the cryptography game and gotten themselves a nice little backdoor entrance built, but the odds of that backdoor going unnoticed for as long as SHA-256 has been a global standard are astronomical. It would have been exploited long ago, and some gang in russia would be rolling in piles of billions of dollars.



Huh? I understood some of the words, but none of the sentences.


Anyway, I'm sure it's a smokescreen and a total LIE! I watched Swordfish! Hugh Jackman could unsalt a SHA256 algofish in 30 seconds .....WHILE GETTING A HUMMER!!
dstieger Offline
#38 Posted:
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And what about the "I'm an Apple Computer" dude in that Die Hard movie. He could probably do it faster than Hugh Jackman
BuckyB93 Offline
#39 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
dstieger's a mole..?? Huh


He got better.
BuckyB93 Offline
#40 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
And what about the "I'm an Apple Computer" dude in that Die Hard movie. He could probably do it faster than Hugh Jackman


How about that Ferris Bueller guy in War Games?
Buckwheat Offline
#41 Posted:
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BuckyB93 wrote:
He got better.



Burn her anyway! Gonz
DrafterX Offline
#42 Posted:
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BuckyB93 wrote:
He got better.



Laugh
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