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If Obummer had a football team.........
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Oct 5, 2:15 PM EDT

Obama open to name change for Washington Redskins

By JULIE PACE
AP White House Correspondent

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama says he would "think about changing" the Washington Redskins' name if he owned the football team as he waded into the controversy involving a word many consider offensive to Native Americans.

Obama, in an interview with The Associated Press, said team names such as the Redskins offend "a sizable group of people." He said that while fans get attached to the names, nostalgia may not be a good enough reason to keep them in place.

"I don't know whether our attachment to a particular name should override the real legitimate concerns that people have about these things," he said in the interview, which was conducted Friday at the White House.

An avid sports fan who roots for his hometown Chicago Bears, Obama said he doesn't think Washington football fans are purposely trying to offend American Indians. "I don't want to detract from the wonderful Redskins fans that are here. They love their team and rightly so," he said.

But he appeared to come down on the side of those who have sharply criticized the football team's name, noting that Indians "feel pretty strongly" about mascots and team names that depict negative stereotypes about their heritage.

The team's owner, Dan Snyder has vowed to never abandon the name.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said last month that the league should pay attention to those offended by the name - a subtle change in position for Goodell, who had more strongly supported the name in his previous statements this year.

Lanny J. Davis, an attorney for the Redskins, said the team's fans don't intend to "disparage or disrespect" anyone.

"The name `Washington Redskins' is 80 years old. It's our history and legacy and tradition," Davis said in an emailed statement in which he also identified himself as an Obama supporter. "We Redskins fans sing `Hail to the Redskins' every Sunday as a word of honor, not disparagement."

Other professional sports teams have Indian names, including football's Kansas City Chiefs and baseball's Atlanta Braves and Cleveland Indians. Davis referred to fans of those teams and hockey's Chicago Blackhawks in his statement, saying Redskins fans "love our team and its name and, like those fans, we do not intend to disparage or disrespect a racial or ethnic group."

Numerous colleges and universities have changed names that reference Native Americans. St. John's changed its mascot from the Redmen to the Red Storm, Marquette is now the Golden Eagles instead of the Warriors and Stanford switched from the Indians to the Cardinal.

The Redskins' name has attracted a fresh round of controversy in recent months, with local leaders in Washington calling for a name change and some media outlets refraining from using the name. The name is the subject of a long-running legal challenge from a group of American Indians seeking to block the team from having federal trademark protection.

Congressional lawmakers have introduced a bill seeking the same goal, though it appears unlikely to pass.

"What a prudent and wise use of the bully pulpit," Suzan Shown Harjo, a plaintiff in that case, said in an interview Saturday. "I am so glad that he said that and I hope that people hear a reasoned response from the president and will pay attention to this issue."

Harjo said the issue "involves lots of hurt and pain and ongoing name-calling and bullying of our children that goes with this name. We just need to have an end to it."

"There's no such thing as a good stereotype, no matter how well-intentioned, no matter how good people feel about it," Harjo added. "It still has negative ramifications for our people."

"These are relics of the past. They should be consigned to museums and history books and people can feel good about them there," she said. "But they should not be allowed in polite society."

Opponents of the Redskins name plan to hold a symposium Monday at the Washington hotel hosting the NFL's fall meeting.

"We really appreciate the president underscoring what we've been saying," said Ray Halbritter, leader of the Oneida Indian Nation, a tribe from upstate New York that's been campaigning against the name. "There's just no place for a professional football team to be using what the dictionary defines as a racially offensive term."

Halbritter said the NFL and Snyder could "borrow a page from the president" and use a decision to change the team's name as a "teachable moment."

Despite the controversy, an AP-GfK poll conducted in April showed that, nationally, "Redskins" still enjoys wide support. Nearly 4 in 5 Americans don't think the team should change its name, the survey found. Only 11 percent think it should be changed, while 8 percent weren't sure and 2 percent didn't answer.

Obama said he doesn't have a direct stake in the Redskins debate since he's not a team owner. But he hinted that might be part of his post-White House plans.

"Maybe after I leave the presidency," he joked. "I think it would be a lot of fun."

"I'd probably look at a basketball team before I looked at a football team," said Obama, who plays basketball in his spare time, has coached his daughter's basketball team and is a fan of the NBA's Chicago Bulls. "I know more about basketball than I do about football."

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Associated Press writers Joseph White and Darlene Superville contributed to this report.


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Can he be anymore insignificant?
DrafterX Offline
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Think
He plans on having enough money to buy a basketball or football team..?? Huh
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DrafterX wrote:
Think
He plans on having enough money to buy a football team..?? Huh



Check out page 8,351 of Obamacare. He's getting the next expansion team. Remember what Pelosi said about passing the bill so we could see what was in it. Why do you think he wants to raise the debt limit again.
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I bet Moochelle will make a hell of a linebacker.... Mellow
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The Honolulu Half Blue Gums?
Abrignac Online
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ZRX1200 wrote:
The Honolulu Half Blue Gums?


Somebody is drunk posting.
ZRX1200 Offline
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I'm oncall, no drinking.

Sleep would be nice though.
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Abrignac wrote:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama says he would "think about changing" the Washington Redskins' name if he owned the football team as he waded into the controversy involving a word many consider offensive to Native Americans.

He was also quoted as thinking about changing the 'Indianapolis 500' to the 'NativeAmericanapolis 500'.
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I could see O'Blamer trying to buy an NFL team.

He would ask all of the other owners to give him one of their best players to "Redistribute the Wealth" because we all know that "They didn't build those teams themselves".

LOL
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DadZilla3 wrote:
He was also quoted as thinking about changing the 'Indianapolis 500' to the 'NativeAmericanapolis 500'.



Beer Good shot. Getcha a case of beer for that one.

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He would probably make them play on a blue field.
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crgcpro wrote:
I could see O'Blamer trying to buy an NFL team.

He would ask all of the other owners to give him one of their best players to "Redistribute the Wealth" because we all know that "They didn't build those teams themselves".

LOL



The team would be an utter disaster.

No self respecting fan is gonna line up for an 8 dollar dog on a stick...fried crickets and stewed snake-ka-bobs!

Wings...real hot dogs...Moochelle will be double fistin' those down herself!
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Maybe he'd allow the use of EBT cards at the stadium for food, beverage, and "clothing"....
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
The team would be an utter disaster.

No self respecting fan is gonna line up for an 8 dollar dog on a stick...fried crickets and stewed snake-ka-bobs!

Wings...real hot dogs...Moochelle will be double fistin' those down herself!


Chewbacca would be the team Mascot.
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LongDrive wrote:
Maybe he'd allow the use of EBT cards at the stadium for food, beverage, and "clothing"....


N!&&@ please...that's a GIVEN!

2-fer-1 at the Crystal Palace...lapdances 24 hours a day! Every time the home team score you win an opportunity to make it rain in our cash shower...all the ones you can grab for a single minute! Grilled Govt. cheese sammiches...White House Honey Porter on tap...don't forget to wear your hoodie for free admission.
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crgcpro wrote:
Chewbacca would be the team Mascot.



She's got the arms for it!
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
N!&&@ please...that's a GIVEN!

2-fer-1 at the Crystal Palace...lapdances 24 hours a day! Every time the home team score you win an opportunity to make it rain in our cash shower...all the ones you can grab for a single minute! Grilled Govt. cheese sammiches...White House Honey Porter on tap...don't forget to wear your hoodie for free admission.


I have the White House Honey Ale kit but haven't brewed it yet. Milk and honey ale flowing in the streets!
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snowwolf777 wrote:
Beer Good shot. Getcha a case of beer for that one.

ThumpUp
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So glad the given a all that he should be concerned about isn't on his mind yet this nonsense is...ThumbDown
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If Obama had a son.. he'd play just like RG III.... Mellow
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