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jackconrad Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2013, 12:39 AM EST
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Harry Reid Voted The Most Hated Congressional Leader :Blocked Funding For Vets And Don’t Care About Kids With Cancer
Posted on 9 October, 2013

via washingtonexaminer

Senate Democrats blocked four resolutions to fund government programs, including paying the National Guard and opening national parks, as Republicans offered the limited measures in an attempt to win the government shutdown fight by financing popular programs and leaving those they oppose untouched.

“Unbelievably, today Senate Democrats went on record to oppose funding for National Guard and Reserve salaries, veterans’ services, lifesaving medicine and cures, and national parks and museums,” Senate Republican Conference chairman John Thune, R-S.D., said in a release following the procedural battle.

“Congress unanimously passed a bill to ensure active-duty military personnel are paid during this lapse in government funding, and it’s unclear why Senate Democrats wouldn’t pass similar measures to fund these important services,” Thune said.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., asked for unanimous consent to pass funding for the Veterans Affairs Department and Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, requested unanimous consent to pass a bill funding the national parks and monuments. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., rejected both.

“Senator Reid is countering Republicans’ UC request with a request to pass a clean [continuing resolution] that reopens the entire government,” Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson tweeted.

Thune offered a measure that would ensure the National Guard and Reserve units do not see their pay interrupted, and Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., called for the Senate to fund the National Institutes of Health. Sen. ****** Durbin, D-Ill., blocked the measures.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., defended the maneuvers during a press conference Thursday afternoon. “To fund these piecemeal bills would give Ted Cruz a veto power over what is funded and what isn’t,” Schumer said. “We are not going along with that — how could we?”



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DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2013, 8:33 AM EST
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That Bassard..!! Mad
Taps86 Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2013, 9:14 AM EST
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LMAO!

Let's pick what we want. Right?



It makes me SICK seeing the GOP using the military as a Political PAWN when less then 20% of these Pen15 puffers have never served in the military.
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2013, 9:31 AM EST
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http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/10/08/2-Billion-NSA-Spy-Center-Going-Flames
cacman Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2013, 9:45 AM EST
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They want everything without compromise, while we get nothing.
HockeyDad Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Oct 10 2013, 11:32 AM EST
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cacman wrote:
They want everything without compromise, while we get nothing.



Sounds perfectly fair to the winning side.

(Note: Always be the winning side)
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 6:06 AM EST
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President Obama has just authorised payment of the life insurane

for the 5 soldiers that wee killed a few days ago and other benifits

that the va will have to pay to families of men serving in the military.

he doesn't need harry reed's vote.
Kidmd Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 6:21 AM EST
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Taps86 wrote:
LMAO!

Let's pick what we want. Right?



It makes me SICK seeing the GOP using the military as a Political PAWN when less then 20% of these Pen15 puffers have never served in the military.


Looks like it is the Dems not the GOP using our military as the pawn....they wanna make it hurt as bad a spossible just to get thier way...
HockeyDad Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 6:46 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
President Obama has just authorised payment of the life insurane

for the 5 soldiers that wee killed a few days ago and other benifits

that the va will have to pay to families of men serving in the military.

he doesn't need harry reed's vote.



False. Obama signed a bill after Reid allowed it to go through
DrMaddVibe Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 7:23 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/10/08/2-Billion-NSA-Spy-Center-Going-Flames



I LMMFAO when I read that story!

Talk about justice! I hope that place burns to the ground and the taxpayers get the money back for this undermining freedom spy factory!
dstieger Offline
#11 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 7:46 AM EST
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Only Congress can vote to appropriate money to run the Federal government. They have chosen not to. When Congressmen get indignant about any government programs that aren't funded it is unfnbelievable.
Taps86 Offline
#12 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 8:05 AM EST
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Kidmd wrote:
Looks like it is the Dems not the GOP using our military as the pawn....they wanna make it hurt as bad a spossible just to get thier way...



Last I checked the GOP shut down the government over ObamaCare and had not a care in the world about anyone. They knew this would happen.


In my mind they should have went after entitlements. ACA is a LAW.
HockeyDad Offline
#13 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 8:17 AM EST
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Taps86 wrote:
Last I checked the GOP shut down the government over ObamaCare and had not a care in the world about anyone. They knew this would happen.


In my mind they should have went after entitlements. ACA is a LAW.



Entitlements are law. Get you stinking hands off our entitlements.

What they should have done is raise taxes on people living in South Carolina.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 8:19 AM EST
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What do we want...more vests...when do we want them...now.


Sorry, having a maven moment.
dstieger Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 8:21 AM EST
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I agree, Taps.

By the way, why is the government still shut down, anyway? I haven't heard a peep about Obamacare for over a week. If it isn't an issue, pass a damn budget -- or at least a CR.

Also, by the way, DC is really getting the shaft here. This city is getting bent over when the ineptituded of the knuckleheads on the hill are preventing this city from spending its OWN TAX DOLLARS...more unfnbelievableness
DrMaddVibe Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 8:25 AM EST
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dstieger wrote:
I agree, Taps.

By the way, why is the government still shut down, anyway? I haven't heard a peep about Obamacare for over a week. If it isn't an issue, pass a damn budget -- or at least a CR.

Also, by the way, DC is really getting the shaft here. This city is getting bent over when the ineptituded of the knuckleheads on the hill are preventing this city from spending its OWN TAX DOLLARS...more unfnbelievableness



As an American taxpayer...I demand a refund for them doing NOTHING! It's my money!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdF_Vo4B6Ms
DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 8:30 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
As an American taxpayer...I demand a refund for them doing NOTHING! It's my money!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdF_Vo4B6Ms



It's been spent on lobsters at da Waldorf.... Not talking
Buckwheat Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 9:38 AM EST
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jackconrad wrote:

Share this


Why? All of this is just a political shadow play of absurdity put on to distract the citizens from our elected official's complete contempt of the general population and their own incompetence in performing the jobs that we elected and pay them to do.

Both sides only care about coming out of this shutdown and being able to proclaim that they have "won." All they care about is keeping their jobs, pay & power until they can retire on the government tit and become a lobbyist for a PAC and get the real payout.

Do you really think that any of these politicians give two squirts of piss for anyone who is out of work or not being paid during the shutdown? Notice that they are still getting paid to do nothing. horse

I wish I could put the "Sarcasm" smiley behind this post but that would just be too cynical.

Taps86 Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 9:46 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Why? All of this is just a political shadow play of absurdity put on to distract the citizens from our elected official's complete contempt of the general population and their own incompetence in performing the jobs that we elected and pay them to do.

Both sides only care about coming out of this shutdown and being able to proclaim that they have "won." All they care about is keeping their jobs, pay & power until they can retire on the government tit and become a lobbyist for a PAC and get the real payout.

Do you really think that any of these politicians give two squirts of piss for anyone who is out of work or not being paid during the shutdown? Notice that they are still getting paid to do nothing. horse

I wish I could put the "Sarcasm" smiley behind this post but that would just be too cynical.





AMEN!!!!!!!!!Applause Applause Applause Applause
Gene363 Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 10:05 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Why? All of this is just a political shadow play of absurdity put on to distract the citizens from our elected official's complete contempt of the general population and their own incompetence in performing the jobs that we elected and pay them to do.

Both sides only care about coming out of this shutdown and being able to proclaim that they have "won." All they care about is keeping their jobs, pay & power until they can retire on the government tit and become a lobbyist for a PAC and get the real payout.

Do you really think that any of these politicians give two squirts of piss for anyone who is out of work or not being paid during the shutdown? Notice that they are still getting paid to do nothing. horse

I wish I could put the "Sarcasm" smiley behind this post but that would just be too cynical.



+1,000,000 and anyone that believes otherwise is a moron.

If a meteor struck DC I would feel bad about losing the monuments and museums.
ZRX1200 Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 10:38 AM EST
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Taps the "law"or was found constitutional as a tax.

Taxes have to originate where?

Where fid A.C.A originate?
jackconrad Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 11:04 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Why? All of this is just a political shadow play of absurdity put on to distract the citizens from our elected official's complete contempt of the general population and their own incompetence in performing the jobs that we elected and pay them to do.

Both sides only care about coming out of this shutdown and being able to proclaim that they have "won." All they care about is keeping their jobs, pay & power until they can retire on the government tit and become a lobbyist for a PAC and get the real payout.

Do you really think that any of these politicians give two squirts of piss for anyone who is out of work or not being paid during the shutdown? Notice that they are still getting paid to do nothing. horse

I wish I could put the "Sarcasm" smiley behind this post but that would just be too cynical.




It's a cut and paste
Buckwheat Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 11:18 AM EST
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"The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament."
"I've been a frickin' evil doctor for 30 frickin' years! So cut me some frickin' slack. You forget, Scott, that we're inside a volcanooooo. We're surrounded by liquid hot magma."

Congress
dstieger Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 11:21 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
.... All of this is just a political shadow play of absurdity put on to distract the citizens


But are not the citizens more content to watch the shadows than to hurt their eyes by looking at the light?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 11:27 AM EST
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dstieger wrote:
But are not the citizens more content to watch the shadows than to hurt their eyes by looking at the light?



Look at the big brain on Brett!
dstieger Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 11:30 AM EST
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Sadly, no. More like Flock of Seagulls with some mando humanities credits in his way-back.
jackconrad Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 11:30 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Why? All of this is just a political shadow play of absurdity put on to distract the citizens from our elected official's complete contempt of the general population and their own incompetence in performing the jobs that we elected and pay them to do.

Both sides only care about coming out of this shutdown and being able to proclaim that they have "won." All they care about is keeping their jobs, pay & power until they can retire on the government tit and become a lobbyist for a PAC and get the real payout.

Do you really think that any of these politicians give two squirts of piss for anyone who is out of work or not being paid during the shutdown? Notice that they are still getting paid to do nothing. horse

I wish I could put the "Sarcasm" smiley behind this post but that would just be too cynical.




It's a cut and paste
Buckwheat Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 11:37 AM EST
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I've been rethinking my previous post and I'm beginning to think that we are really chained to a wall in a cave looking at shadows cast on a blank wall or maybe we are all in the Matrix. Either way we're screwed. Kind of a Plato’s Closet thing.

"...Oh, but Mama, that's where the fun is..."
DrMaddVibe Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 1:27 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
I've been rethinking my previous post and I'm beginning to think that we are really chained to a wall in a cave looking at shadows cast on a blank wall or maybe we are all in the Matrix. Either way we're screwed. Kind of a Plato’s Closet thing.

"...Oh, but Mama, that's where the fun is..."



I don't want to go in a closet chained to a wall - David Carradine
HockeyDad Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 1:37 PM EST
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"Do we pull the rope on 'three' or after we say "three' so really on 'four?" ~ David Carradine
bloody spaniard Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 2:33 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
"Do we pull the rope on 'three' or after we say "three' so really on 'four?" ~ David Carradine

Think
What works best for you?
teedubbya Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 3:23 PM EST
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does this nylon cord make my scrotum look big?
bloody spaniard Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 3:40 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
does this nylon cord make my scrotum look big?

Applause (sensible question)
rfenst Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 5:07 PM EST
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Scorched-earth strategy by Dems. Leave nothing on the table for the R's to save face (a little). Republican suicide by Harkari.
jackconrad Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 7:39 PM EST
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The whole thing is stupid .. The true meaning of the word ABORTION
HockeyDad Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 7:48 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Scorched-earth strategy by Dems. Leave nothing on the table for the R's to save face (a little). Republican suicide by Harkari.


Suicide by national debt fro both parties. (And everyone)
rfenst Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 8:07 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Suicide by national debt fro both parties. (And everyone)


Meh, we can ride this out and get back on track a bit. The recession we are still generally coming out of is a good, opportune time.
Gene363 Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 9:58 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Meh, we can ride this out and get back on track a bit. The recession we are still generally coming out of is a good, opportune time.


Tell that to your grandchildren when they are working three jobs and asking why taxes take away all their wealth.
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#39 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 11:10 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
[color=dark blue]
Tell that to your grandchildren when they are working three jobs and asking why taxes take away all their wealth.[/color]


Not worried as much as you guys are. I have confidence this is a "blip", albe it a long and big one, and that we have the ability and resources to get out of our mess- even the hard way. Remember, We have been fighting war(s) for nearly a decade and this recession hurt the "business" of government too- big time. In the long run, we need to be worried about our currency remaining in demand worldwide (oil dollars) and emerging nations' economic and goods production abilities.Besides, I will educate them as well as possible, no matter what it takes and they, hopefully will remain somewhere towards the upper part of the food chain.
rfenst Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Oct 11 2013, 11:16 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Taps the "law"or was found constitutional as a tax.

Taxes have to originate where?

Where fid A.C.A originate?


So, line up the votes and overturn the votes that prevailed. But, stop obstructing in the meantime.

Do you think Cruz, tea-partiers or Boehner really care about anyone's well being?
cacman Offline
#41 Posted: Sat, Oct 12 2013, 2:07 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
So, line up the votes and overturn the votes that prevailed. But, stop obstructing in the meantime.

Do you think Cruz, tea-partiers or Boehner really care about anyone's well being?

Doesn't matter. The fact is we have all been stripped of our right to choose. It is the first time in US history where every American is forced to buy something or pay a fine/tax (however you justify it). Not to mention what we are forced to buy is highly unregulated and the companies impose major influence on every multi-millionaire in office that is supposed to be running this country for the people. Yet the people running this country for the people exempt themselves from the law they impose on the people? What's next... is the guberment going to become involved in your auto insurance too? We do own stock in GM? Animal Farm?

Health coverage is not a 'right'. Just like having a cell-phone is NOT a basic need. Neither should be managed, covered, or offered by our guberment.

If they can open the Hall for all the immigrant votes they are 'buying', then open it for the men & women that fought for this country.
HockeyDad Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Oct 12 2013, 6:21 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Not worried as much as you guys are. I have confidence this is a "blip", albe it a long and big one, and that we have the ability and resources to get out of our mess- even the hard way. Remember, We have been fighting war(s) for nearly a decade and this recession hurt the "business" of government too- big time. In the long run, we need to be worried about our currency remaining in demand worldwide (oil dollars) and emerging nations' economic and goods production abilities.Besides, I will educate them as well as possible, no matter what it takes and they, hopefully will remain somewhere towards the upper part of the food chain.





You got a plan for paying off 17 trillion and rising?! 20 trillion once Obama leaves office. It is a bit more than a blip. When you actually look at the taxation that would be required, it is quite apparent that we would be talking about decades of pain. Not gonna happen. I'll take my free stuff instead.

We've been fighting wars pretty much since WW2. It is our leading export. This is why petrodollars rule and our currency will stay in demand. Challenge it and you will get bombed and destabilized.
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#43 Posted: Sat, Oct 12 2013, 6:52 AM EST
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[quote=Taps86]Last I checked the GOP shut down the government over ObamaCare and had not a care in the world about anyone. They knew this would happen.


In my mind they should have went after entitlements. ACA is a LAW. [/quote]


Debt ceiling agreement......IS also LAW, so just pickin and choosing? Your showing your liberal backside here Taps
Abrignac Offline
#44 Posted: Sat, Oct 12 2013, 10:43 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
President Obama has just authorised payment of the life insurane

for the 5 soldiers that wee killed a few days ago and other benifits

that the va will have to pay to families of men serving in the military.

he doesn't need harry reed's vote.



What a humanitarian. He could have done this from the beginning.
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