For those of you wanting to try these, here's your chance. 4 Ambrosia Spices, 3 Acid Def Sea, 2 Industrial Press, 2 Naturals. This will allow you to samole the whole DE line. Will trade for similar value of traditional cigars. Read the Top 5/10 thread to see some of my faves. Do not read my review of the Ambrosias. ;) jreddochatexcitedotcom