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I was for Obamacare before I was against it....
Abrignac Offline
#1 Posted:
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Obama claims ‘enforcement discretion’ to make Obamacare changes

By Stephen Dinan

The Washington Times

Thursday, November 14, 2013

President Barack Obama pauses while speaking about his signature health care law, Thursday, Nov. 14, 2013, in the Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House in Washington. Bowing to pressure, President Barack Obama intends to permit continued sale of individual insurance plans that have been canceled because they failed to meet coverage standards under the health care law, officials said Thursday. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)

President Obama said Thursday that what’s good for illegal immigrants is also good for people who are losing their health insurance because of Obamacare, saying he’ll use prosecutorial discretion to let companies continue to offer health plans that violate his law.

It’s the latest example of the White House trying to work around Congress and instead take action on its own, and in this case it comes as Mr. Obama seeks to stop a wholesale abandonment of his health law by Democrats who have watched the rocky rollout.

“We put a grandfather clause into the law, but it was insufficient,” the president said at the White House as he announced the new loophole he has created.

Under the new loophole, Mr. Obama will leave it up to state health insurance commissioners to decide which sub-standard plans can still be offered by insurance companies, and he has pledged that his administration won’t penalize them for still offering those plans even though they violate the Affordable Care Act. The extension will last only one year.

Republicans were skeptical the administration had the authority to grant exceptions to the law, and they argue the only solution is to change the law through legislation. House Republicans have a bill set for floor action Friday that would do that.

“I am highly skeptical that they can do this administratively. I just don’t see within the law their ability to do that,” House Speaker John A. Boehner said.

But briefing reporters ahead of time, an administration official said they believe they do have authority to suspend enforcement for a year.

“HHS will be using its enforcement discretion to allow for this transition,” the official said. “Enforcement discretion can be used generally in transitions, as well as a bridge towards legislation. This is something that has been used, for example, with the deferred action for childhood arrivals policy, pending immigration reform.”

That immigration policy, known by its acronym of DACA, has proved controversial as well. Under it, Mr. Obama has determined that young illegal immigrants shouldn’t be deported, even though the law calls for that.

A federal judge in Texas ruled that the administration had exceeded its power in telling immigration agents not to arrest or deport those young illegal immigrants, but the judge also ruled he had no jurisdiction over the case because the agents needed to raise the issue through workplace grievance proceedings first.

Just how much wiggle room the president has to ignore or maneuver within a law has long been debated in legal circles.

In a case before the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals earlier this year regarding nuclear waste storage laws, Judge Brett Kavanaugh said the president “possesses a significant degree of prosecutorial discretion not to take enforcement actions against violators of a federal law.”

Other legal analysts questioned whether that power is inherent in the president’s constitutional prerogatives.

“It is true that the chief executive has some room to decide how strongly to enforce a law, and the timing of enforcement. But here, Obama is apparently suspending the enforcement of a law for a year — simply to head off actual legislation not to his liking,” said Eugene Kontorovich, a professor at Northwestern University School of Law, in a blog post at Volokh Conspiracy.

“The ‘fix’ amounts to new legislation — but enacted without Congress,” Mr. Kontorovich argued. “The president has no constitutional authority to rewrite statutes, especially in ways that impose new obligations on people, and that is what the fix seems to entail.”

For his part, Mr. Obama himself has acknowledged limits to prosecutorial discretion. He has rejected calls from immigrant-rights advocates to expand DACA to include all illegal immigrants, saying that would be illegal.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/14/obama-enforcement-discretion-obamacare-changes/#ixzz2kfSbi7jY
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(So he expects health insurers to violate federal law under the promise of non-prosecution. Isn't part of the oath of office a promise to uphold the laws? So much for the rule of law.
stogiemonger Offline
#2 Posted:
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The Dictator said what?

mikey1597 Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 05-18-2007
Posts: 14,162
stogiemonger wrote:
The Dicktator said what?




Fixed it for ya
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
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creating a loophole for one year is still not letting me keep my plan.... Not talking
HockeyDad Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,137
Abrignac wrote:

(So he expects health insurers to violate federal law under the promise of non-prosecution. Isn't part of the oath of office a promise to uphold the laws? So much for the rule of law.



I don't really inspect any insurance companies to take him up on the "offer".


These cancelled policies are one of the groups of people who are supposed to jump into the pool and pay more. The only problem here is that people who thought they were going to be winners under Obamacare are finding they are losers.

At least the Republicans didn't get to push grandma in her wheelchair off the cliff.
engletl Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 12-26-2000
Posts: 26,493
HockeyDad wrote:
I don't really inspect any insurance companies to take him up on the "offer".


These cancelled policies are one of the groups of people who are supposed to jump into the pool and pay more. The only problem here is that people who thought they were going to be winners under Obamacare are finding they are losers.

At least the Republicans didn't get to push grandma in her wheelchair off the cliff.

now the death squads will take care of that Whistle
cacman Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 07-03-2010
Posts: 12,216
So just what does the big 'O' know?
He doesn't know what's in his own healthcare law (pass it before you know what's in it)?
He doesn't know about surveillance and tapping by the NSA?
He doesn't know about the lack of security at Benghazi?
He doesn't know how to pass a budget or control spending?
He doesn't know how to create jobs?
He doesn't know how to get people off the guberment teet?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
my son had kaiser insurance at $360 per month.

he just changed to the affordable health care at $270.
TMCTLT Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
RICKAMAVEN wrote:
my son had kaiser insurance at $360 per month.

he just changed to the affordable health care at $270.



what's the deductible Rick? there's no way in HELL he's getting his healthcare cheaper when it's ALL figured in

HockeyDad Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,137
Bronze with subsidy!
TMCTLT Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
HockeyDad wrote:
With subsidy...!



There it is.....
cacman Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 07-03-2010
Posts: 12,216
RICKAMAVEN wrote:
my son had kaiser insurance at $360 per month.

he just changed to the affordable health care at $270.

Wait til the actual Bill comes in… then it will be $570 without qualifying subsidies.
Wait for the bait-and-switch. It's coming…
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