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Christians killed for faith nearly doubled in 2013, group finds
Burner02 Offline
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Fox News - Rev. Faye Pama Musa knew immediately why suspected Boko Haram militants burst into his home last year as his wife prepared dinner in the family’s northeastern Nigeria home. His stance against Christian persecution in the divided African nation had long made him a target.

Musa, who served as the general overseer of the Rhema Assembly International Church and secretary of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) in Borno, saw the intruders near the front door of his home in Maiduguri as his wife, Mercy, prepped food. One of the couple’s daughters, Zion, had spotted the armed men just seconds earlier jumping a fence.

“Today you are a dead man,” one of the gunmen reported said on May 14 as he dragged Musa to the porch. “Call your Jesus to help you, Mr. CAN man!”

Zion Musa then begged the attackers to spare her father, a request met with a misfired bullet that caused her to faint. She survived but her 52-year-old father – a man who worked closely with Open Doors, a nondenominational group tracking persecuted Christians worldwide – did not.

Musa, according to the group, was one of 2,123 Christians killed last year due to their faith, compared to 1,201 in 2012. More than half of those reported killings (1,213) occurred in Syria, followed by Nigeria (612) and Pakistan (88).

But North Korea — a country of more than 24 million, with an estimated 300,000 Christians — remained the most dangerous country worldwide for Christians for the 12th consecutive year, followed by Somalia, Syria and Iraq.

“Like others in that country, Christians have to survive under one of the most oppressive regimes in contemporary times,” according to a release on the report issued Wednesday. “They have to deal with corrupt officials, bad policies, natural disasters, diseases and hunger. On top of that, they must hide their decision to follow Christ. Being caught with a Bible is grounds for execution or a life-long political prison sentence. An estimated 50,000 to 70,000 Christians live in concentration camps, prisons and prison-like circumstances under the regime of leader Kim Jong-Un.”

A sub-Saharan African country — Somalia — was ranked second on the organization’s list for the first time. Islamic extremism is the primary source of Christian persecution in the country of more than 10 million and while the capital of Mogadishu is under more moderate Muslim control recently, converts from Islam are threatened with execution, sometimes by the al-Shabaab militant rebels.

“In Somalia, a Christian cannot trust anyone,” one Christian reportedly told an Open Doors researcher. “One false confidence and you literally lose your head.”

Syria, meanwhile, which had not previously cracked the group’s list of top ten most oppressive places for Christians, ranked third last year. Like in Somalia, Islamic extremism powered the prosecution, according to Open Door officials, and many towns that previously had large populations of Christians have become ghost towns.

“The face of persecution in Syria has changed,” the group’s World Watch List reads, adding that nearly half of rebels in Syria have a jihadist background. “The influence of these groups that are linked to Al Qaeda and other extremist factions has risen considerably in the past year.”

More than 80 percent of people worldwide identify with a religious group, according to 2011 survey by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. Of those, 2.2 billion, or 32 percent, identified themselves as Christians, followed by 1.6 billion Muslims (23 percent) and 1 billion Hindus (15 percent).

The survey also found that roughly 1.1 billion people, or 16 percent worldwide, have no religious affiliation, making that segment the third-largest religious group globally and roughly equal in size to the world’s Catholic population.


Wonder if "An eye for an eye" would work?
bloody spaniard Offline
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1 out of 10 babies born in England and Wales are muslim.
How's that for an eye opener?
Brewha Offline
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Ok, I'll bite - why do so many people hate Christians enough to kill them?
ZRX1200 Offline
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They're muslim nuts.
Brewha Offline
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So they are hating everyone who isn't part of their faith and it's just the Christians that Fox gives headline to?
ZRX1200 Offline
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Fox plays to their veiwers just like MSNBC, CBS, ABC and CNN. running this story is only suprising in that the Saudi co-owner didn't squash it.
Brewha Offline
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So, you figure them Muslims is bumping off Jews, atheists, and Zen Buddhists too? I guess even the pagans arn't safe.
They's some nut jobs alright.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Out of context a bit there. Wahabi morons aren't real Muslims to me they've hijacked a religion.

The reason this story merits reporting is if someone not named Israel or US Gov't was killing mooselems there would be non-stop sheetstorm of reporting coverage and outrage.
Gene363 Offline
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Give them knives and shoot the winner.

Problem solved.
jpotts Offline
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Obviouly Brewha is so "well informed" that he as never heard of Kashmir...
Brewha Offline
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jpotts wrote:
Obviouly Brewha is so "well informed" that he as never heard of Kashmir...

Ha! My wife has two of those sweaters.
DrafterX Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Ha! My wife has two of those sweaters.


Shame on you
He was refering to the Zepplin song... Not talking
Brewha Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Shame on you
He was refering to the Zepplin song... Not talking

My wife has that too.

I think he just doesn't like me . . .
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Brewha wrote:
My wife has that too.

I think he just doesn't like me . . .

not possible...love thy neighbor and stuff? he must obey.
victor809 Offline
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So this is a funny article. It fits right in there with the whole "middle-class white males are persecuted!" whining I hear all the time (and laugh about).

It's interesting, at the outset... "christian deaths DOUBLED!!!!" ... okay. that sounds bad... but then you get to the actual number... increased from 1000 to 2000... ok. Over a year that isn't that many people. Really, a drop in the bucket when you consider how many christians are killed by drunk drivers or bacon or malaria... but okay, that's where the author wants to hang their cross, so be it.

But the funniest thing about this is when you try to get perspective... You can't. The entire point of the author's article is that no one talks about these poor christians being killed yearly for being christian. But if you google "muslims killed for their faith", all you get are articles about christians killed for their faith. Same thing if you google "hindus killed for their faith" and even "buddhists killed for their faith"... it's kind of hilarious actually.

I can guarantee you more Islamists are killed for their faith in North African nations annually... Sunnis and Shiites kill each other all the time, no one really cares. But you can't google that statistic at all, without getting an @ssload of whining over a couple thousand christian deaths.

Hell... atheists can be put to death in 13 countries in the world... but the second google search result is about those poor christians being killed (the first is about easter converting someone to christianity, strangely enough).

Anyway... keep your whining up. Someone has to care about the baker's dozen dead christians out there, it definitely sounds like an under-represented minority.
fiddler898 Offline
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Fox News.

Oxymoron.
ZRX1200 Offline
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They report you decide don't be angry.

At least they don't call people names like on MSNBC.
Burner02 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
So this is a funny article. It fits right in there with the whole "middle-class white males are persecuted!" whining I hear all the time (and laugh about).

It's interesting, at the outset... "christian deaths DOUBLED!!!!" ... okay. that sounds bad... but then you get to the actual number... increased from 1000 to 2000... ok. Over a year that isn't that many people. Really, a drop in the bucket when you consider how many christians are killed by drunk drivers or bacon or malaria... but okay, that's where the author wants to hang their cross, so be it.

But the funniest thing about this is when you try to get perspective... You can't. The entire point of the author's article is that no one talks about these poor christians being killed yearly for being christian. But if you google "muslims killed for their faith", all you get are articles about christians killed for their faith. Same thing if you google "hindus killed for their faith" and even "buddhists killed for their faith"... it's kind of hilarious actually.

I can guarantee you more Islamists are killed for their faith in North African nations annually... Sunnis and Shiites kill each other all the time, no one really cares. But you can't google that statistic at all, without getting an @ssload of whining over a couple thousand christian deaths.

Hell... atheists can be put to death in 13 countries in the world... but the second google search result is about those poor christians being killed (the first is about easter converting someone to christianity, strangely enough).

Anyway... keep your whining up. Someone has to care about the baker's dozen dead christians out there, it definitely sounds like an under-represented minority.





So Vic, you have a problem with muslims killing muslims, but it is ok for muslims to kill Christians.

You need to go back in the closet.
fishinguitarman Offline
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Burner02 wrote:
So Vic, you have a problem with muslims killing muslims, but it is ok for muslims to kill Christians.

You need to go back in the closet.







Shakin my head on that one as well....But then again...it's Vicki we're talkin here...
victor809 Offline
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Burner... Your reading comprehension is almost as poor as Potts'. I made no statement about caring if muslims were killed. I googled it to try to get a comparative number (why would I care about some random number of dead christians without something to compare it to).

Why would you think i have a problem with any group being killed?
fishinguitarman Offline
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victor809 wrote:


Why would you think i have a problem with any group being killed?






So it's OK to kill ANY GROUP??


Dude...you need some serious Rugby counciling
Brewha Offline
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victor809 wrote:
So this is a funny article. It fits right in there with the whole "middle-class white males are persecuted!" whining I hear all the time (and laugh about).

It's interesting, at the outset... "christian deaths DOUBLED!!!!" ... okay. that sounds bad... but then you get to the actual number... increased from 1000 to 2000... ok. Over a year that isn't that many people. Really, a drop in the bucket when you consider how many christians are killed by drunk drivers or bacon or malaria... but okay, that's where the author wants to hang their cross, so be it.

But the funniest thing about this is when you try to get perspective... You can't. The entire point of the author's article is that no one talks about these poor christians being killed yearly for being christian. But if you google "muslims killed for their faith", all you get are articles about christians killed for their faith. Same thing if you google "hindus killed for their faith" and even "buddhists killed for their faith"... it's kind of hilarious actually.

I can guarantee you more Islamists are killed for their faith in North African nations annually... Sunnis and Shiites kill each other all the time, no one really cares. But you can't google that statistic at all, without getting an @ssload of whining over a couple thousand christian deaths.

Hell... atheists can be put to death in 13 countries in the world... but the second google search result is about those poor christians being killed (the first is about easter converting someone to christianity, strangely enough).

Anyway... keep your whining up. Someone has to care about the baker's dozen dead christians out there, it definitely sounds like an under-represented minority.

Victor, I think most of those death occured during this year's war on christmas.
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fishinguitarman wrote:
So it's OK to kill ANY GROUP??


Dude...you need some serious Rugby counciling


FGM...
Let's do some math. You're old, probably 150 or something. I'm guessing, based on your age and poor vocabulary that you've got grandchildren, at minimum (I don't pay attention to threads about people popping babies out, so I don't know).
Assuming you've got two children and a grandchild, all of whom still live, you personally have increased the population of the planet by 150%. Your unwillingness to die immediately upon the birth of your child (well, technically, you're good until your second kid) means someone has to die of unnatural causes somewhere, preferably before they breed. You're clearly part of the problem.

I would think that someone like you would encourage death everywhere, so you can pop out more toothless offspring....
victor809 Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Victor, I think most of those death occured during this year's war on christmas.


Candy cane shivs have gotten more dangerous.
Brewha Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Candy cane shivs have gotten more dangerous.

Yes, they are ho-ho-rific . . .
fishinguitarman Offline
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victor809 wrote:
FGM...
Let's do some math. You're old, probably 150 or something. I'm guessing, based on your age and poor vocabulary that you've got grandchildren, at minimum (I don't pay attention to threads about people popping babies out, so I don't know).
Assuming you've got two children and a grandchild, all of whom still live, you personally have increased the population of the planet by 150%. Your unwillingness to die immediately upon the birth of your child (well, technically, you're good until your second kid) means someone has to die of unnatural causes somewhere, preferably before they breed. You're clearly part of the problem.

I would think that someone like you would encourage death everywhere, so you can pop out more toothless offspring....





You shouldn't think....



Crawl back under your bridge.....
wheelrite Offline
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victor809 wrote:
FGM...
You're old, I wanna sniff your Thong..



Oh my


wheel,
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